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D3 Decisions: Running up the score
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Re: D3 Decisions: Running up the score
haha if you say so. i mean, i tend to agree with what you're saying. and i said it since i started this thread. it amazes me how many people there are out there who don't agree with calling off the dogs at some point. i used to think that was a majority opinion when it came to sportsmanship. it's a little disappointing to find out that most of the people here are of the "suck it up, you're not a little girl, get over it" attitude.
haha if you say so. i mean, i tend to agree with what you're saying. and i said it since i started this thread. it amazes me how many people there are out there who don't agree with calling off the dogs at some point. i used to think that was a majority opinion when it came to sportsmanship. it's a little disappointing to find out that most of the people here are of the "suck it up, you're not a little girl, get over it" attitude.
CanHockGuy
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Re: D3 Decisions: Running up the score
Ok... Could you please give your analogy on the game referred to earlier when 3 goals were scored in the last 3 or so minutes in a 14-0 game. Let's hear it please!
Ok... Could you please give your analogy on the game referred to earlier when 3 goals were scored in the last 3 or so minutes in a 14-0 game. Let's hear it please!
Re: D3 Decisions: Running up the score
Good lord, is this thread going to go crazy every time Plymouth gets blown out?
It's a good thing we didn't start this one in October, we'd be well past the thousand-post mark by now.
Women hockey players aren't damsels in distress. They are competitors. They can take it. They wouldn't come back game after game, year after year, if they couldn't.
Good lord, is this thread going to go crazy every time Plymouth gets blown out?
It's a good thing we didn't start this one in October, we'd be well past the thousand-post mark by now.
Women hockey players aren't damsels in distress. They are competitors. They can take it. They wouldn't come back game after game, year after year, if they couldn't.
CanHockGuy
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Re: D3 Decisions: Running up the score
If you were following this thread closely, this has nothing to do with little girls or anything like that. It's about how you play hockey with a big lead and maintain respect for the game and your opponents.
If you were following this thread closely, this has nothing to do with little girls or anything like that. It's about how you play hockey with a big lead and maintain respect for the game and your opponents.
5 4 Fighting
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Excellent recon work CHG...now we know!
Excellent recon work CHG...now we know!
valiantfan08
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I was at game last night...Poor PSU. Everyone is a loser in a game like that. Mville trapped,PLAYED KEEP AWAY, and dumped pucks in corners on breakaways and it still was 17-0. IT WAS 9-0 12 MINUTES INTO GAME!!!!
IF THEY WANTED TO I TRULY BELIEVE THEY COULD HAVE SCORED 40 GOALS. PLYMOUTH ST WOULD LOSE 10-0 TO A HIGH SCHOOL TEAM. COACH GO RECRUIT PLEASE. SO WE CAN PUT AN END TO THIS FORUM.
I was at game last night...Poor PSU. Everyone is a loser in a game like that. Mville trapped,PLAYED KEEP AWAY, and dumped pucks in corners on breakaways and it still was 17-0. IT WAS 9-0 12 MINUTES INTO GAME!!!!
IF THEY WANTED TO I TRULY BELIEVE THEY COULD HAVE SCORED 40 GOALS. PLYMOUTH ST WOULD LOSE 10-0 TO A HIGH SCHOOL TEAM. COACH GO RECRUIT PLEASE. SO WE CAN PUT AN END TO THIS FORUM.
Re: D3 Decisions: Running up the score
Keep it classy Valiants. And may your fans keep it classier.
MVille should have tried harder then. But no worries, Karma will bite them a good one.
Keep it classy Valiants. And may your fans keep it classier.
YankeeZulu
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My first comment in this thread --
My two cents worth about Manhattanville 17 - Plymouth State 0. M'ville put 37 shots on goal in that game. Lesser teams have peppered the PSU goal with up to 75 shots. No question but that M'ville was doing a lot of passing the puck around. When the opposing goalie has a save percentage of 54%, you are still going to score a lot of goals unless you just stop playing.
M'ville Coach Lang sat a number of his regulars for that game and dressed four or five players from that roster of 26 who have barely played this year. For EIGHT of the goal scorers, the goal they scored against Plymouth State was their first, second, or third of the year. Congratulations to Kelly Keane of Longmeadow, Mass. on her first collegiate goal in her fifth game of the year. The young lady who got the hat trick from M'ville did it on her second, third, and fourth goals of the year. Their leading scorer did score a goal in the third period. Big deal. For most of the game, PSU was competing against M'ville's third and fourth lines and their reserves. Some of the M'ville skaters got more playing time than their total minutes in all their games to date. M'ville probably could have scored 30 or more goals. This is a PSU problem this year, not everyone else's. I am convinced that the M'Ville coach did what he could to tone it down without completely dissing the PSU players by stopping playing hockey.
I remember my D playing in a few of these games. In one game, the coach moved the forwards back and put all the D on two forward lines. Big mistake. It was like giving them speed! You had the D crashing the net, etc. looking for their first or second goals of the year -- and they got them. Another time, he had one of these "everyone touches the puck" scenarios. That resulted in tic-tac-toe passes and open nets as the opponents went crazy chasing the puck. Another time, he ordered no rushing the net, pass around, shoot only from the blue line. My D nailed two really primo slappers, then was told to just take wrist shots from the blue line. She got her hat trick on a wrister (a dump in on net) that went in as she was going over the boards to change up. She thought her teammates were pulling her leg that she had scored (I could lipread her NFW comment). Only hat trick of her career, but no one threw any hats on the ice. (Great restraint, Dad!) In a gross mismatch, there's not much you can do. You play these games out as conservatively as possible without losing respect for the game, and think about next year's schedule.
My first comment in this thread --
My two cents worth about Manhattanville 17 - Plymouth State 0. M'ville put 37 shots on goal in that game. Lesser teams have peppered the PSU goal with up to 75 shots. No question but that M'ville was doing a lot of passing the puck around. When the opposing goalie has a save percentage of 54%, you are still going to score a lot of goals unless you just stop playing.
M'ville Coach Lang sat a number of his regulars for that game and dressed four or five players from that roster of 26 who have barely played this year. For EIGHT of the goal scorers, the goal they scored against Plymouth State was their first, second, or third of the year. Congratulations to Kelly Keane of Longmeadow, Mass. on her first collegiate goal in her fifth game of the year. The young lady who got the hat trick from M'ville did it on her second, third, and fourth goals of the year. Their leading scorer did score a goal in the third period. Big deal. For most of the game, PSU was competing against M'ville's third and fourth lines and their reserves. Some of the M'ville skaters got more playing time than their total minutes in all their games to date. M'ville probably could have scored 30 or more goals. This is a PSU problem this year, not everyone else's. I am convinced that the M'Ville coach did what he could to tone it down without completely dissing the PSU players by stopping playing hockey.
I remember my D playing in a few of these games. In one game, the coach moved the forwards back and put all the D on two forward lines. Big mistake. It was like giving them speed! You had the D crashing the net, etc. looking for their first or second goals of the year -- and they got them. Another time, he had one of these "everyone touches the puck" scenarios. That resulted in tic-tac-toe passes and open nets as the opponents went crazy chasing the puck. Another time, he ordered no rushing the net, pass around, shoot only from the blue line. My D nailed two really primo slappers, then was told to just take wrist shots from the blue line. She got her hat trick on a wrister (a dump in on net) that went in as she was going over the boards to change up. She thought her teammates were pulling her leg that she had scored (I could lipread her NFW comment). Only hat trick of her career, but no one threw any hats on the ice. (Great restraint, Dad!) In a gross mismatch, there's not much you can do. You play these games out as conservatively as possible without losing respect for the game, and think about next year's schedule.
Hockeydad4two
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powerplay17
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Re: D3 Decisions: Running up the score
well said.
well said.
CanHockGuy
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Sounds like this team got it mostly right in this game. I think you guys are starting to catch on. Congrats. (I'm still having trouble with the 3 goals in the last three minutes though) However, earlier posts suggested that rubbing it in was ok. Big girls can handle it, play every shift like it was your last or something like that. Very different.
Sounds like this team got it mostly right in this game. I think you guys are starting to catch on. Congrats. (I'm still having trouble with the 3 goals in the last three minutes though) However, earlier posts suggested that rubbing it in was ok. Big girls can handle it, play every shift like it was your last or something like that. Very different.
Re: D3 Decisions: Running up the score
Even though they used their backup field goal kicker?
Even though they used their backup field goal kicker?
CanHockGuy
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FranchisePlayer
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Re: D3 Decisions: Running up the score
From people I've spoken to in the rinks, the current PSU coach is finally doing what the previous one did not - getting out there, being visible, talking up her program, and above all RECRUITING. Give it time. Nothing is going to help them this year, but the good thing is that whenever someone posts after having watched them play, they mention how PSU continued to play hard and compete all the way to the end. Coach must be doing something right with the team she inherited if she can get them to keep playing in these games despite the lopsided scores. Unfortunately, this program appears to have been woefully mismanaged for its three-year varsity existence. Perhaps the ship is finally being righted? One can only hope...
Regarding the game: was the starting goalie in the whole time for PSU?
From people I've spoken to in the rinks, the current PSU coach is finally doing what the previous one did not - getting out there, being visible, talking up her program, and above all RECRUITING. Give it time. Nothing is going to help them this year, but the good thing is that whenever someone posts after having watched them play, they mention how PSU continued to play hard and compete all the way to the end. Coach must be doing something right with the team she inherited if she can get them to keep playing in these games despite the lopsided scores. Unfortunately, this program appears to have been woefully mismanaged for its three-year varsity existence. Perhaps the ship is finally being righted? One can only hope...
Regarding the game: was the starting goalie in the whole time for PSU?
upstatehockey
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I agree that recruiting is necessary up in Plymouth, but as I've said before it seems like the school needs to give more support to the program before thigns will get better (offering a full time position to a coach who can get a full 5 years of recruiting under her belt would be a great start). A rink will help but that isn't the only thing that attracts great recruits. There are currently 17 FR/SO on the roster for Plymouth- it seems the previous coach did her share of the recruiting, but didn't land any top-notch recruits, as Norwich, Salve, UMB, USM have. They have some good players on the roster- I've seen Camara, Shea, Davis, VanWormer and they were talented players. I imagine it is pretty hard to convince someone to spend 4 years at PSU when you've got MA kids getting a great deal at UMB, a beautiful setting and private school education at Salve and Norwich, and a great state school deal at USM. I've worked in a higher ed setting for a number of years and from what I can tell, for out-of-state kids, there isn't much to draw them up there. Just my two cents.
futurestar
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Note for next year... On Beyondthedashers PSU is listing two recruits already, both Goalies one from Connecticut, one from Massachusetts. I also know of a defenseman who is giving PSU strong consideration. They won't be challenging Mville soon but they are pushing to move from the bottom third.
Out of state costs for PSU are about $2,500 less than USM per year.
Note for next year... On Beyondthedashers PSU is listing two recruits already, both Goalies one from Connecticut, one from Massachusetts. I also know of a defenseman who is giving PSU strong consideration. They won't be challenging Mville soon but they are pushing to move from the bottom third.
Out of state costs for PSU are about $2,500 less than USM per year.
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YankeeZulu
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The PSU coach is going to have to work a little harder than that. A goalie for a public school girls co-op in E. Mass? Didn't know there was such a thing. Who knows? Maybe a diamond in the rough. But at least that Canterbury School PG goalie will be of legal drinking age as a 21-year old freshman to start next season for PSU! Haven't seen that one on the women's side before. Maybe she did a Mormon mission, or a tour in Afghanistan.
The PSU coach is going to have to work a little harder than that. A goalie for a public school girls co-op in E. Mass? Didn't know there was such a thing. Who knows? Maybe a diamond in the rough. But at least that Canterbury School PG goalie will be of legal drinking age as a 21-year old freshman to start next season for PSU! Haven't seen that one on the women's side before. Maybe she did a Mormon mission, or a tour in Afghanistan.
posttopost2
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Good one about Afghanistan. Her dad is actually a military member who did two tours in Iraq during her high school year.
Good one about Afghanistan. Her dad is actually a military member who did two tours in Iraq during her high school year.
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Yep, same thing many years ago when the RIT men beat Neumann 24-0. To this day, people who weren't there won't believe us when we say it was unavoidable. We could have scored twice that many. No one likes a 24-0 score, but what was the alternative? Should RIT just stand around while Neumann runs shooting practice on an empty net? That's disrespectful.
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Yep, same thing many years ago when the RIT men beat Neumann 24-0. To this day, people who weren't there won't believe us when we say it was unavoidable. We could have scored twice that many. No one likes a 24-0 score, but what was the alternative? Should RIT just stand around while Neumann runs shooting practice on an empty net? That's disrespectful.
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