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D1 tryouts
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Re: D1 tryouts
I would say Digit is given a bunch of future women leaders and/or role models, seeing all of her players were capable of being accepted into an Ivy League university. And not to take anything away from Digit's accomplishments in the past, recently the only records she seems to be setting is season record lows and by far having the highest percentage of players she recruited quitting every single season.
I would say Digit is given a bunch of future women leaders and/or role models, seeing all of her players were capable of being accepted into an Ivy League university. And not to take anything away from Digit's accomplishments in the past, recently the only records she seems to be setting is season record lows and by far having the highest percentage of players she recruited quitting every single season.
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In fairness, would it not be far more unusual if there was not a higher rate of attrition among programs at the bottom of the standings if they are determined to improve??? As I recall, considerable attrition also occurred at North Dakota, Cornell, Union and Quinnipiac among other programs in recent years before their teams started to get better, and most observers did not knock their coaches for this.
Her personality and style may not be to everyone's taste, but she can hardly be accused of hiding her true nature to her recruits. And she's certainly not the only coach with that sort of passionate style who has managed to achieve continued records of success either, when given competitive levels of financial support.
In fairness, would it not be far more unusual if there was not a higher rate of attrition among programs at the bottom of the standings if they are determined to improve??? As I recall, considerable attrition also occurred at North Dakota, Cornell, Union and Quinnipiac among other programs in recent years before their teams started to get better, and most observers did not knock their coaches for this.
Her personality and style may not be to everyone's taste, but she can hardly be accused of hiding her true nature to her recruits. And she's certainly not the only coach with that sort of passionate style who has managed to achieve continued records of success either, when given competitive levels of financial support.
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What happens to the kids that walk on and just tryout. They work on there game hard all summer and deserve a fair shake.
They skate well and better than the past recruits should they play?
I know some kids on the boys end of hockey that actually did this successfully!
Wes Welker from the Pats wrote every D1 - A- Football team he got one response and only one response that is it.
There have been countless others that have just showed up and played well and made some teams.
What about these kids??? Should they be given a shot if they are the more productive player in tryouts?
Does anyone know who won the Hobby last year --> I think he was a walk on.
why not take someone that shows up with great skills?
What happens to the kids that walk on and just tryout. They work on there game hard all summer and deserve a fair shake.
They skate well and better than the past recruits should they play?
I know some kids on the boys end of hockey that actually did this successfully!
Wes Welker from the Pats wrote every D1 - A- Football team he got one response and only one response that is it.
There have been countless others that have just showed up and played well and made some teams.
What about these kids??? Should they be given a shot if they are the more productive player in tryouts?
Does anyone know who won the Hobby last year --> I think he was a walk on.
why not take someone that shows up with great skills?
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Tried to give you rep, but can't just yet. I agree. Good post. Digit is nothing if not transparent and forthcoming, and has produced elite players who are elite adults, as have other coaches. It's all about making good choices, not bad judgements.
Tried to give you rep, but can't just yet. I agree. Good post. Digit is nothing if not transparent and forthcoming, and has produced elite players who are elite adults, as have other coaches. It's all about making good choices, not bad judgements.
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Cristina Wiley, Rookie forward at BU. Played for the Boston Shamrocks last year. Thought she was going to Colby, but repeatedly caught the eye of Coach Durocher, who asked her to "try" BU.
She has an unbelievable work ethic and a team first attitude, and is a good student. Look at her. She's played 4 games, skated with and against some accomplished players, and put her first puck in the net two games into her career. she's been a regular on the 2nd team PK - fast and tenacious.
I could {almost) talk myself into wishing her well against UNH
Good things can happen. You just have to lose the assumption that you've already worked hard enough. Oh - and have fun
Cristina Wiley, Rookie forward at BU. Played for the Boston Shamrocks last year. Thought she was going to Colby, but repeatedly caught the eye of Coach Durocher, who asked her to "try" BU.
She has an unbelievable work ethic and a team first attitude, and is a good student. Look at her. She's played 4 games, skated with and against some accomplished players, and put her first puck in the net two games into her career. she's been a regular on the 2nd team PK - fast and tenacious.
I could {almost) talk myself into wishing her well against UNH
Good things can happen. You just have to lose the assumption that you've already worked hard enough. Oh - and have fun
OnMAA
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R U setting up the retirement party
Well Sean played at UNH when I played at UNH, and I played against Digit then, so unless someone opts for an early out, they could retire together
R U setting up the retirement party
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
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Run out of Rep as well. Great Post.
Last year at least two rookies on one of the teams you mentioned above bailed before the season was even half over. You are quite right that this happens more than folks think, but it often goes unnoticed by many. Most involved in those situations, whether they be players or coaches prefer it that way. After all we are still dealing with young women who in most cases are still finding their way in life. Aside from the academic learnings, to me college life is all about finding your path to the future.
Run out of Rep as well. Great Post.
Last year at least two rookies on one of the teams you mentioned above bailed before the season was even half over. You are quite right that this happens more than folks think, but it often goes unnoticed by many. Most involved in those situations, whether they be players or coaches prefer it that way. After all we are still dealing with young women who in most cases are still finding their way in life. Aside from the academic learnings, to me college life is all about finding your path to the future.
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First, just to point out a couple of things, you used a double negative in your post above. So what your last post actually says is, it is far more unusual if there were a higher rate of attrition among programs at the bottom of the standings if they are determined to improve. But I know what you’re trying to say so I’ll move on. But the other problem is that I’m little confused with the ambiguity of the word ‘attrition’. I’ve never heard or seen the word, so I had to look it up. And these were all the definitions that came up;
1. Gradual reduction of the size of a work force through resignation that is not replaced.
(doesn’t really work with hockey, players get replaced)
2. Wearing away of surface.
(nope)
3. Gradual wearing away of morale and the powers of resistance by persistent attacks.
(This meaning probably fits almost perfectly if I had to describe, in one word, the actual affects that the coaches have had on that team)
4. Remorse for sin engendered by the feat of ****ation.
(And this works pretty good too with giving an accurate reason why a parent might find the need to post negative comments about their daughter’s situation on these boards while trying to stay anonymous at the same time. No player in they’re right mind is going to speak up about how they feel about a coach, unless they want to be first on the list to get cut, or stand in the stands for the rest of their college career. The same thing would happen to that kid if a coach suspected which parent it was posting complaints. So you can’t really blame a parent whose only trying to help her daughter continue to enjoy doing something she clearly loves to do and has invested more time into than anything else. Especially, when the parents posts aren’t just expressing what some people might think to be solely the poor attitude of their kid, but instead is showing a view that more than just their daughter has.)
So, sorry if that came off as an english lesson, but I could not have stated my opinion any better myself as you have done.
First, just to point out a couple of things, you used a double negative in your post above. So what your last post actually says is, it is far more unusual if there were a higher rate of attrition among programs at the bottom of the standings if they are determined to improve. But I know what you’re trying to say so I’ll move on. But the other problem is that I’m little confused with the ambiguity of the word ‘attrition’. I’ve never heard or seen the word, so I had to look it up. And these were all the definitions that came up;
1. Gradual reduction of the size of a work force through resignation that is not replaced.
(doesn’t really work with hockey, players get replaced)
2. Wearing away of surface.
(nope)
3. Gradual wearing away of morale and the powers of resistance by persistent attacks.
(This meaning probably fits almost perfectly if I had to describe, in one word, the actual affects that the coaches have had on that team)
4. Remorse for sin engendered by the feat of ****ation.
(And this works pretty good too with giving an accurate reason why a parent might find the need to post negative comments about their daughter’s situation on these boards while trying to stay anonymous at the same time. No player in they’re right mind is going to speak up about how they feel about a coach, unless they want to be first on the list to get cut, or stand in the stands for the rest of their college career. The same thing would happen to that kid if a coach suspected which parent it was posting complaints. So you can’t really blame a parent whose only trying to help her daughter continue to enjoy doing something she clearly loves to do and has invested more time into than anything else. Especially, when the parents posts aren’t just expressing what some people might think to be solely the poor attitude of their kid, but instead is showing a view that more than just their daughter has.)
So, sorry if that came off as an english lesson, but I could not have stated my opinion any better myself as you have done.
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But back to what you meant to say, I do agree that every team goes through a stage of people quitting because the level of hockey is increasing and cuts have to be made before a team makes the transition into being good team. You’re also right that the same thing was seen at ND, Union, and Quinipiac. But personally, I do not think a school that had the first collegiate women’s ice hockey team in the country should be going through the same development stage as programs that were started almost 40 years later. Nor should new coaches, at relatively new programs, be in the same process of development as a coach who has been at the same school for twenty years, at a program that has been there for forty-five. At least at the other schools you listed, you can actually see them improving. However, it’s hard to understand how people are expected not to complain when they see their team regressing.
All Ivies face similar financial restrictions with recruiting, however, Dartmouth, Harvard, and Princeton are all capable of being competitive.
And I have never heard anyone complain about Digit's enthusiasm for the game or her style of coaching on the bench. Players are quite aware of both of those usually before even meeting her.
But back to what you meant to say, I do agree that every team goes through a stage of people quitting because the level of hockey is increasing and cuts have to be made before a team makes the transition into being good team. You’re also right that the same thing was seen at ND, Union, and Quinipiac. But personally, I do not think a school that had the first collegiate women’s ice hockey team in the country should be going through the same development stage as programs that were started almost 40 years later. Nor should new coaches, at relatively new programs, be in the same process of development as a coach who has been at the same school for twenty years, at a program that has been there for forty-five. At least at the other schools you listed, you can actually see them improving. However, it’s hard to understand how people are expected not to complain when they see their team regressing.
All Ivies face similar financial restrictions with recruiting, however, Dartmouth, Harvard, and Princeton are all capable of being competitive.
And I have never heard anyone complain about Digit's enthusiasm for the game or her style of coaching on the bench. Players are quite aware of both of those usually before even meeting her.
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Anyone who thinks Digit and Coady are good coaches must have daughters playing somewhere else. Coady is a has been with no coaching experience. Why'd the Bruins let him go?
As for Digit..... I watched Digit when Brown played Harvard a couple of years ago and all she did was scream and yell. She looked more like a crazy person than an Ivy League Coach. I was embarrassed for her.
Anyone who thinks Digit and Coady are good coaches must have daughters playing somewhere else. Coady is a has been with no coaching experience. Why'd the Bruins let him go?
As for Digit..... I watched Digit when Brown played Harvard a couple of years ago and all she did was scream and yell. She looked more like a crazy person than an Ivy League Coach. I was embarrassed for her.
Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
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Don't worry, it didn't.
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Not to mention that your sentence structure needs a lot of work.
Don't worry, it didn't. Their
who's
parent's
Not to mention that your sentence structure needs a lot of work.
notfromaroundhere
A visitor in any town!
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This is quite a day when Hux joins the smack-down. And I thought I was the only nice guy who lost patience with the obvious problem posters...
I could use a whoopie-pie right now...
This is quite a day when Hux joins the smack-down. And I thought I was the only nice guy who lost patience with the obvious problem posters...
I could use a whoopie-pie right now...
Brown Parent
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Re: D1 tryouts
Originally Posted by Trillium
In fairness, would it not be far more unusual if there was not a higher rate of attrition among programs at the bottom of the standings if they are determined to improve??? As I recall, considerable attrition also occurred at North Dakota, Cornell, Union and Quinnipiac among other programs in recent years before their teams started to get better, and most observers did not knock their coaches for this.
Her personality and style may not be to everyone's taste, but she can hardly be accused of hiding her true nature to her recruits. And she's certainly not the only coach with that sort of passionate style who has managed to achieve continued records of success either, when given competitive levels of financial support.
As a Brown parent, I read with interest this thread and felt compelled to respond. Brown has not been on the decline for the last several years. In fact, as recent as the 2005-06 season, Brown was the only team to beat UNH in regulation during the regular season (BC beat them in OT), they made history at the Bright Center with the first scoreless tie in Harvard's history, beat Princeton 1-0 in the ECAC semi finals and was one goal away from replacing BC at the Frozen Eight.
The problem at Brown is not the caliber of player but rather the ability of the head coach to keep talent. A few years back, I compared rosters from year to year and was surprised to learn that Brown had the highest attrition rate in players and assistant coaches among all Ivies while its record continued to deteriorate. The only constant was the head coach. Either she has recruited the wrong players year after year, hired the wrong assistant coaches year after year or has mismanaged the program year after year. I suspect it’s a little bit of all of the above.
Every program has hurdles, what separates effective coaches from others is the ability to adapt and make the most out of what they have—not use the same old shtick and expect different results.
I wish the current Brown players and parents the very best. Brown is an amazing school and is capable of having a competitive program. I, for one, hope this will be the year.
Originally Posted by Trillium
In fairness, would it not be far more unusual if there was not a higher rate of attrition among programs at the bottom of the standings if they are determined to improve??? As I recall, considerable attrition also occurred at North Dakota, Cornell, Union and Quinnipiac among other programs in recent years before their teams started to get better, and most observers did not knock their coaches for this.
Her personality and style may not be to everyone's taste, but she can hardly be accused of hiding her true nature to her recruits. And she's certainly not the only coach with that sort of passionate style who has managed to achieve continued records of success either, when given competitive levels of financial support.
As a Brown parent, I read with interest this thread and felt compelled to respond. Brown has not been on the decline for the last several years. In fact, as recent as the 2005-06 season, Brown was the only team to beat UNH in regulation during the regular season (BC beat them in OT), they made history at the Bright Center with the first scoreless tie in Harvard's history, beat Princeton 1-0 in the ECAC semi finals and was one goal away from replacing BC at the Frozen Eight.
The problem at Brown is not the caliber of player but rather the ability of the head coach to keep talent. A few years back, I compared rosters from year to year and was surprised to learn that Brown had the highest attrition rate in players and assistant coaches among all Ivies while its record continued to deteriorate. The only constant was the head coach. Either she has recruited the wrong players year after year, hired the wrong assistant coaches year after year or has mismanaged the program year after year. I suspect it’s a little bit of all of the above.
Every program has hurdles, what separates effective coaches from others is the ability to adapt and make the most out of what they have—not use the same old shtick and expect different results.
I wish the current Brown players and parents the very best. Brown is an amazing school and is capable of having a competitive program. I, for one, hope this will be the year.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: D1 tryouts
Are you suggesting that you are another disgruntled Brown parent like ccookie79 ?.
Are you suggesting that you are another disgruntled Brown parent like ccookie79 ?.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
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Followed by this response.....
I'm joining Gotice in the LMAO department.
While I'm as far removed from an english major as you can be, English is not even my native language, this response was indeed funny !.
Trillium nailed it !, hcky85 did not get it !, Hux Smacked it !. everybody else loved it !.
Followed by this response.....
I'm joining Gotice in the LMAO department.
While I'm as far removed from an english major as you can be, English is not even my native language, this response was indeed funny !.
Trillium nailed it !, hcky85 did not get it !, Hux Smacked it !. everybody else loved it !.
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Blackbeard
Well-known member
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I think you misread it.
I had to read it a few times since I originally thought, as well, that a double negative had been used but that is not the case. What is being said is "wouldn't it be unusual if there was NOT a higher rate of attrition"...in other words "wouldn't it be unusual if there was a lower rate of attrition".
Two negatives are being used but they each modify separate verbs that pertain to different subjects. What is unusual is the way the thought was expressed but there is certainly nothing wrong with proper English...it's actually preferable to the lazy way many of us speak.
I think you misread it.
I had to read it a few times since I originally thought, as well, that a double negative had been used but that is not the case. What is being said is "wouldn't it be unusual if there was NOT a higher rate of attrition"...in other words "wouldn't it be unusual if there was a lower rate of attrition".
Two negatives are being used but they each modify separate verbs that pertain to different subjects. What is unusual is the way the thought was expressed but there is certainly nothing wrong with proper English...it's actually preferable to the lazy way many of us speak.