College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

[alfablue]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Someone's smoking a little too much of the wacky tobacky. I seem to recall Washington State losing a second or two at the end of the Rose Bowl against that vaunted Michigan team; funny how they didn't get put back on the clock unlike Texas this year. And Bob Griese announcing his son's Rose Bowl was tantamount to a 3-hour long commercial annointing Michigan the national champions.

As many of us recall the ball that was intentionally kicked (as admitted by the Nebraska player) in a Missouri game to keep the ball alive. Which should have drawn a flag. And should have ended the game.

(or the blatent offensive pass interference on Wazzu's last drive)

 

[The Darkness]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Someone's smoking a little too much of the wacky tobacky. I seem to recall Washington State losing a second or two at the end of the Rose Bowl against that vaunted Michigan team; funny how they didn't get put back on the clock unlike Texas this year. And Bob Griese announcing his son's Rose Bowl was tantamount to a 3-hour long commercial annointing Michigan the national champions.

You remember history you want to and I'll remember it the right way.

Not to mention the only reason Michigan had to share that stupid title is because Phil Fulmer ranked Michigan 4th because he was mad Woodson won the Heisman and not Manning.

 

[pgb-ohio]

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As long as we are fixing injustices, lets take away that tOSU national title due to the phantom pass interference call on Miami in 02.

To fully fix the injustice, you'd need to call the flagrant pass interference that was missed near the end of regulation. The 3rd Down conversion would have allowed the Buckeyes to run out the clock. In other words, no big punt return, no tieing field goal, no O.T. The Buckeyes should have won that game in regulation time.

The officiating in that game wasn't the best. Inconsistency was a major issue. And yes, the call you dredge up was ticky-tacky. But I'm convinced that it was a make-up call, directly linked to the non-call moments earlier.

Weak officiating? Yes. Injustice? Not really; the right team won in the end. But I do resent the fact that weak officiating tainted the victory in the minds of neutral fans like you.

 

[The Darkness]

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To fully fix the injustice, you'd need to call the flagrant pass interference that was missed near the end of regulation. The 3rd Down conversion would have allowed the Buckeyes to run out the clock. In other words, no big punt return, no tieing field goal, no O.T. The Buckeyes should have won that game in regulation time.

The officiating in that game wasn't the best. Inconsistency was a major issue. And yes, the call you dredge up was ticky-tacky. But I'm convinced that it was a make-up call, directly linked to the non-call moments earlier.

Weak officiating? Yes. Injustice? Not really; the right team won in the end. But I do resent the fact that weak officiating tainted the victory in the minds of neutral fans like you.

And again just to assert the fact I just hate Ohio State.

However if that game is the first steps to the rest of the soap opera that is Maurice Clarett I would be more then happy to interpret it in any way that keeps that story intact.

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

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If we're talking about clock management, USC still has one second left after Leinart's incomplete pass to Dwayne Jarrett in the 2005 Rose Bowl.

 

[JF_Gophers]

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Weak officiating? Yes. Injustice? Not really; the right team won in the end. But I do resent the fact that weak officiating tainted the victory in the minds of neutral fans like you.

I'm in no way neutral. 1) I hate Ohio State and wish nothing but bad luck on them at all times. 2) I am a Miami (FL) fan. 3) Its not surprising someone with Ohio in their user name thinks OSU deserved to win.

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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To fully fix the injustice, you'd need to call the flagrant pass interference that was missed near the end of regulation. The 3rd Down conversion would have allowed the Buckeyes to run out the clock. In other words, no big punt return, no tieing field goal, no O.T. The Buckeyes should have won that game in regulation time.

The officiating in that game wasn't the best. Inconsistency was a major issue. And yes, the call you dredge up was ticky-tacky. But I'm convinced that it was a make-up call, directly linked to the non-call moments earlier.

Weak officiating? Yes. Injustice? Not really; the right team won in the end. But I do resent the fact that weak officiating tainted the victory in the minds of neutral fans like you.

Not in anyway an Ohio State fan and I co-sign this. The end of regulation debacle is frequently ignored by people clammering that Miami was robbed. It all came out in the wash.

 

[unofan]

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You remember history you want to and I'll remember it the right way.

If by the right way you mean "Nebraska would've beat Michigan had they played head-to-head" then sure.

And while Fullmer's vote had no logical basis, that's what happens when you decide a national title by voting. You're subject to the whims and fancies of the voters.

 

[alfablue]

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Question for you all- would you root for your most hated rival for "the good of the conference?"

There's a debate on my first alma mater's F-ball board on wether Bozo State fans should come out to the Humanitarian Bowl to root for Idaho and that Idaho fans should support Boise Community College in their game with TCU.

Personally, I just can't do it.

Just like I can't root for the Spartans or Buckeyes (unless they are playing someone I hate worse)- and I expect my friends from MSU and OSU would have the same lack of support for Michigan.

While it's true that the WAC needs help in being taken seriously, I think it would be better if the teams did a better job with NC games- like my Vandals agaisnt Washington. And I'll root for Fresno State, and sort of root for Nevada, I just can't bring myself to root for BCC. Especially against TCU- which I have no real +- with. And doubly especially how Bozo ran up the score with trick plays.

Thoughts?

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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Question for you all- would you root for your most hated rival for "the good of the conference?"

There's a debate on my first alma mater's F-ball board on wether Bozo State fans should come out to the Humanitarian Bowl to root for Idaho and that Idaho fans should support Boise Community College in their game with TCU.

Personally, I just can't do it.

Just like I can't root for the Spartans or Buckeyes (unless they are playing someone I hate worse)- and I expect my friends from MSU and OSU would have the same lack of support for Michigan.

While it's true that the WAC needs help in being taken seriously, I think it would be better if the teams did a better job with NC games- like my Vandals agaisnt Washington. And I'll root for Fresno State, and sort of root for Nevada, I just can't bring myself to root for BCC. Especially against TCU- which I have no real +- with. And doubly especially how Bozo ran up the score with trick plays.

Thoughts?

There are a handful of schools in the SEC I'll always loath for reasons larger than football where I'll root for Stanford. Theres also some kind of perverse amusement in watching a "school of effeminate west coast liberal geeks" cause an entire to state to go on suicide watch. Outside of those rare instances, no. I still have the highlights of the Furd-UC Davis game from earlier in the decade on a hard drive somewhere.

 

[blockski]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Question for you all- would you root for your most hated rival for "the good of the conference?"

There's a debate on my first alma mater's F-ball board on wether Bozo State fans should come out to the Humanitarian Bowl to root for Idaho and that Idaho fans should support Boise Community College in their game with TCU.

Personally, I just can't do it.

Just like I can't root for the Spartans or Buckeyes (unless they are playing someone I hate worse)- and I expect my friends from MSU and OSU would have the same lack of support for Michigan.

While it's true that the WAC needs help in being taken seriously, I think it would be better if the teams did a better job with NC games- like my Vandals agaisnt Washington. And I'll root for Fresno State, and sort of root for Nevada, I just can't bring myself to root for BCC. Especially against TCU- which I have no real +- with. And doubly especially how Bozo ran up the score with trick plays.

Thoughts?

I don't care. I'll take it as a win/win. If Vaunted Rival wins, then I can at least use that as a sign of conference strength. If they lose, schadefreude.

Either outcome is acceptable that way. No rooting interest one way or another is required.

 

[The Darkness]

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If by the right way you mean "Nebraska would've beat Michigan had they played head-to-head" then sure.

And while Fullmer's vote had no logical basis, that's what happens when you decide a national title by voting. You're subject to the whims and fancies of the voters.

Although is a one game series anything is possible. Michigan wins that game hand down, and I'm almost certain a majority of the college taught so.

Michigan just screwed by coaches like Fulmer, Joe Paterno (I believe it came out later that Paterno voted Michigan lower then normal to screw us over) and I'm almost sure a couple coaches voted for Nebraska simply because they wanted to give Tom Osborne a trophy as a going away present.

 

[French Rage]

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There are a handful of schools in the SEC I'll always loath for reasons larger than football where I'll root for Stanford.

Same here, unless they're directly in our way I'll probably root for a rival so that the Pac-10 gets the respect it deserves rather than another SEC team getting fellated by lazy sportswriter who would rather go for the "SEC is the pinnacle of human achievement" storyline already written for them than do their ****ing jobs.

Theres also some kind of perverse amusement in watching a "school of effeminate west coast liberal geeks" cause an entire to state to go on suicide watch.

Why do you get amusement at watching your own team fail?

Outside of those rare instances, no. I still have the highlights of the Furd-UC Davis game from earlier in the decade on a hard drive somewhere.

Is that when we lost to UC Davis in football or in basketball or in baseball that year? Thanks Walt Harris!

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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Why do you get amusement at watching your own team fail?

Oh I don't disagree. The look on the faces of Tennessee fans after they got beat by "them ghey boys from California" in 2007 was amazing. And I really have no problems with Tennessee for the most part.

 

[Craig P.]

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Have heard that rumor and
DO NOT WANT!!!!

If Chuck Martin thought he got put thru the wringer when he lost to Hillsdale this year, I would hate to see what the Irish faithful would do to him.

I dunno, he can't do any worse than Tenuta did this season, right?

As long as he would produce a decent or better defense at ND, it would be a good career move for him. If ND were to win with a good defense, he'd be able to get a good D1 job.

 

[Bob Gray]

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Not in anyway an Ohio State fan and I co-sign this. The end of regulation debacle is frequently ignored by people clammering that Miami was robbed. It all came out in the wash.

Very true. I always viewed the call that went in Ohio State's favor as justice for what hapened at the end of regulation.

 

[French Rage]

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Oh I don't disagree. The look on the faces of Tennessee fans after they got beat by "them ghey boys from California" in 2007 was amazing. And I really have no problems with Tennessee for the most part.

Oh, I completely misread that as a shot at Stanford or USC. Comment retracted!

 

[GreatLakerMohawk]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Brian Kelly will become the new head man at Notre Dame.

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Brian Kelly will become the new head man at Notre Dame.

Our long national nightmare is now over.

 

[GreatLakerMohawk]

Re: College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

Our long national nightmare is now over.

And a new one begins in its place.