College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

[Priceless]

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House subcommittee passed legislation okaying a college football playoff.

So does this mean anything or not really?

It's a House subcommittee. It means exactly nothing. Now, if the full House and Senate pass a measure and send it to the president, then it will mean something. And geography isn't why this faces a tough road (it was introduced by a guy from Texas), it's that the BC$ has bought a lot of political support (former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer is the lead lobbyist).

 

[bigmrg74]

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It's a House subcommittee. It means exactly nothing. Now, if the full House and Senate pass a measure and send it to the president, then it will mean something. And geography isn't why this faces a tough road (it was introduced by a guy from Texas), it's that the BC$ has bought a lot of political support (former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer is the lead lobbyist).

Yeah, but just what Senator or Rep is going to go on the record and vote against a mandate for a NCAA D1 BCS playoff system?? Most states have enough programs and alumni groups that would make anybody thats in a close race regret not voting for the playoffs. Every program's fanbase that feels like its been screwed out of their shot at the crown will be out in force for this. Would you want to run a reelection campaign as the guy that doesn't love something as all-american as College football??

For what its worth, I don't believe the bill actually forces a playoff, it just says that the Bowl that Texas and Alabama are playing in can't really bill itself as a National Championship, and that the winners can't call themselves National Champs either.

 

[French Rage]

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Yeah, but just what Senator or Rep is going to go on the record and vote against a mandate for a NCAA D1 BCS playoff system?? Most states have enough programs and alumni groups that would make anybody thats in a close race regret not voting for the playoffs. Every program's fanbase that feels like its been screwed out of their shot at the crown will be out in force for this. Would you want to run a reelection campaign as the guy that doesn't love something as all-american as College football??

For what its worth, I don't believe the bill actually forces a playoff, it just says that the Bowl that Texas and Alabama are playing in can't really bill itself as a National Championship, and that the winners can't call themselves National Champs either.

Can they also attach a rider that declares Notre Dame the 1993 national champions?

 

[Priceless]

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Yeah, but just what Senator or Rep is going to go on the record and vote against a mandate for a NCAA D1 BCS playoff system?? Most states have enough programs and alumni groups that would make anybody thats in a close race regret not voting for the playoffs. Every program's fanbase that feels like its been screwed out of their shot at the crown will be out in force for this. Would you want to run a reelection campaign as the guy that doesn't love something as all-american as College football??

Very easy: "We have more important things to do than interfere with college football. I love college football, but it's not an issue for Congress."

Of the things that will determine an election, this bill rates a tad bit lower than health care... People are very passionate about college football, but on the scale of things that they'll consider on election day it rates pretty low.

This bill is symbolic in nature, but nothing will come of it.

 

[bigmrg74]

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Very easy: "We have more important things to do than interfere with college football. I love college football, but it's not an issue for Congress."

Of the things that will determine an election, this bill rates a tad bit lower than health care... People are very passionate about college football, but on the scale of things that they'll consider on election day it rates pretty low.

This bill is symbolic in nature, but nothing will come of it.

All the bill really says is that the BCS can't call their game a National Championship, which it never has been, but marketed that way. Doesn't really set about doing anything more than that.

 

[bronconick]

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Can they also attach a rider that declares Notre Dame the 1993 national champions?

No.

 

[Craig P.]

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For what its worth, I don't believe the bill actually forces a playoff, it just says that the Bowl that Texas and Alabama are playing in can't really bill itself as a National Championship, and that the winners can't call themselves National Champs either.

I'm curious about how they wrote that. If they're not careful, it won't actually do what they're trying to make it do. (e.g. if all they do is require a playoff, then the BCS is OK, because it already is a playoff. It's a two-team playoff, but a playoff nonetheless.)

 

[Priceless]

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I'm curious about how they wrote that. If they're not careful, it won't actually do what they're trying to make it do. (e.g. if all they do is require a playoff, then the BCS is OK, because it already is a playoff. It's a two-team playoff, but a playoff nonetheless.)

The text of the bill

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds that--

(1) college football games, including post-season football games, depend upon competition between college and university teams traveling in interstate commerce;

(2) the competitions involve and affect interstate commerce and are therefore within Congress's constitutional authority to regulate;

(3) the total economic impact in the host cities from the 5 Bowl Championship Series (BCS) games in January 2008 was estimated at more than $1.2 billion;

(4) collegiate athletic conferences whose teams participate in each BCS bowl game share $17.5 million in revenue;

(5) the BCS system recognizes the important economic impact to a city hosting the BCS championship game and therefore rotates it among cities; and

(6) the colleges and universities whose teams participate in the post-season football bowls experience significant financial windfall including increased applications for enrollment, recruiting advantages, increased alumni donations, and increased corporate sponsorship that provides a competitive advantage over universities whose teams are ineligible or statistically at a disadvantage from the BCS bowl competitions because of their conference affiliation.

SEC. 3. PROHIBITED ACT.

(a) Promotion of Game- It shall be unlawful for any person to promote, market, or advertise a post-season National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) football game as a championship or national championship game, unless the game is the final game of a single elimination post-season playoff system for which all NCAA Division I FBS conferences and unaffiliated Division I FBS teams are eligible.

(b) Merchandising- It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, market, or advertise any merchandise related to a post-season NCAA Division I FBS football game that refers to the game as a championship or national championship game, unless the game is the final game of a single elimination post-season playoff system for which all NCAA Division I FBS conferences and unaffiliated Division I FBS teams are eligible.

SEC. 4. ENFORCEMENT BY THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION.

(a) Enforcement Authority- A violation of section 3 shall be treated as a violation of a rule defining an unfair or deceptive act or practice prescribed under section 18(a)(1)(B) of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 57a(a)(1)(B)). The Federal Trade Commission shall enforce this Act in the same manner, by the same means, and with the same jurisdiction as though all applicable terms and provisions of the Federal Trade Commission Act were incorporated into and made a part of this Act.

(b) Regulations- The Federal Trade Commission may promulgate regulations or issue interpretative guidelines as necessary to implement and carry out this Act.

SEC. 5. EFFECTIVE DATE.

The prohibition in section 3 shall apply to any post-season NCAA Division I FBS football game that occurs after January 31, 2011.

Ooops.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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The text of the bill



Ooops.

What a colossal waste of time and resources...

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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I'm curious about how they wrote that. If they're not careful, it won't actually do what they're trying to make it do. (e.g. if all they do is require a playoff, then the BCS is OK, because it already is a playoff. It's a two-team playoff, but a playoff nonetheless.)

They pay the lawyers to hang around Capital Hill and make sure those kind of things don't happen.

 

[bigmrg74]

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The text of the bill



Ooops.

Told ya!!!

Anywho, interesting tidbit I've heard is at halftime of the D2 National Championship game Saturday, ESPN plans on interviewing Brian Kelly and seeing if they can figure out if he's going to go coach the Irish or not. Personally, I hope he doesn't say BOO about the ND job and goes to give his analysis of the game there at the half and let everybody else there in Bristol **** a brick about not getting anything they would consider useful out of that interview. But that just might be my Grand Valley homerism talking.

For those of you interested, that game would start at 1pm EST and is on ESPN2.

 

[Priceless]

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They pay the lawyers to hang around Capital Hill and make sure those kind of things don't happen.

I'm not a lawyer or on Capitol Hill, but even I can tell you that every Division I-A (FBS) school is eligible, and the BCS is a two-team, single-elimination playoff.

I'd call on Rep. Barton to rewrite his bill, but it is entirely symbolic anyway.

 

[bigmrg74]

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I'm not a lawyer or on Capitol Hill, but even I can tell you that every Division I-A (FBS) school is eligible, and the BCS is a two-team, single-elimination playoff.

I'd call on Rep. Barton to rewrite his bill, but it is entirely symbolic anyway.

Yeah, probably should have a mentioning of it being at least a 4 or more team playoff, just to clean it up.

 

[Craig P.]

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Told ya!!!

Anywho, interesting tidbit I've heard is at halftime of the D2 National Championship game Saturday, ESPN plans on interviewing Brian Kelly and seeing if they can figure out if he's going to go coach the Irish or not.

If he hasn't already been announced as the new coach of ND by that point, I'm guessing that the answer is not.

I assume you've heard, Chuck Martin (Kelly's DC and successor at GVSU) has said he'd be interested in going to ND as the DC if Kelly goes as the head coach. Apparently, he turned Kelly down for the same position at CMU and UC.

 

[bigmrg74]

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If he hasn't already been announced as the new coach of ND by that point, I'm guessing that the answer is not.

I assume you've heard, Chuck Martin (Kelly's DC and successor at GVSU) has said he'd be interested in going to ND as the DC if Kelly goes as the head coach. Apparently, he turned Kelly down for the same position at CMU and UC.

Have heard that rumor and
DO NOT WANT!!!!

If Chuck Martin thought he got put thru the wringer when he lost to Hillsdale this year, I would hate to see what the Irish faithful would do to him.

 

[The Darkness]

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Can they also attach a rider that declares Notre Dame the 1993 national champions?

Only if it also strips Nebraska of it's share of the 97 title (that they in no way deserved) thus leaving Michigan as the sole national champs for the season.

 

[JF_Gophers]

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As long as we are fixing injustices, lets take away that tOSU national title due to the phantom pass interference call on Miami in 02.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Yeah, but just what Senator or Rep is going to go on the record and vote against a mandate for a NCAA D1 BCS playoff system?? Most states have enough programs and alumni groups that would make anybody thats in a close race regret not voting for the playoffs. Every program's fanbase that feels like its been screwed out of their shot at the crown will be out in force for this. Would you want to run a reelection campaign as the guy that doesn't love something as all-american as College football??

Doesn't matter. Right now the bowls are the only NCAA 'post-season system' that the NCAA doesn't make a dime from and as long as the schools are able to rake in as much as they do, they will do everything in their power to prevent a playoff.

 

[The Darkness]

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As long as we are fixing injustices, lets take away that tOSU national title due to the phantom pass interference call on Miami in 02.

I want to agree but only because I hate Ohio State.

 

[unofan]

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Only if it also strips Nebraska of it's share of the 97 title (that they in no way deserved) thus leaving Michigan as the sole national champs for the season.

Someone's smoking a little too much of the wacky tobacky. I seem to recall Washington State losing a second or two at the end of the Rose Bowl against that vaunted Michigan team; funny how they didn't get put back on the clock unlike Texas this year. And Bob Griese announcing his son's Rose Bowl was tantamount to a 3-hour long commercial annointing Michigan the national champions.