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College Basketball ver Do Wedzenia Krzyzewski

Indiana completed the season sweep of Purdue at Mackey Arena last night, easily handling the Boilermakers, despite their All-American senior only scoring 10 points.
 
Lots of crazy games yesterday.

Iowa came back from 13 down in the last 90 seconds to take MSU to OT where they later won. State had a couple turnovers but it’s hard to classify it as a meltdown. They went 10/12 from the line after going up 13, but Iowa went 5-5 from three point in the final minute.

8-20 Florida State came back from 25 down on the road at 23-5 Miami to win on a buzzer beater.

Arizona State upset Arizona on the road with a half court buzzer beater.
 
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Notre Dame not having a great season. But they manage to get Brey a win in his final home game before retirement. Solid coach. Good guy who has no scandals or anything. Back-to-back elite 8 a few years back. Hope he enjoys retirement.
 
I'd really like to know that kind of stuff the WCC was smoking when they came up with their tournament format.

For those unaware, it's a 10-team, full stepladder bracket. The #1 & #2 seeds get a bye to the semi-finals. If a #7-#10 seed were to meet them there, it would be the lower seeds FOURTH game in the tournament...

Talk about stacking the field for Gonzaga and St. Mary's.
 
RaceBoarder said:
I'd really like to know that kind of stuff the WCC was smoking when they came up with their tournament format.

For those unaware, it's a 10-team, full stepladder bracket. The #1 & #2 seeds get a bye to the semi-finals. If a #7-#10 seed were to meet them there, it would be the lower seeds FOURTH game in the tournament...

Talk about stacking the field for Gonzaga and St. Mary's.
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That’s the point. And I like it. These mid and low major conferences will have a team dominate the regular season with an 18-0 or 17-1 season and then lose in the quarters or semis.

The MAC had, and may still have, a similar format. I think the WAC adopted the same format as well. Rewards teams for a good regular season and gives the conferences the best chance at winning a game in the NCAA tournament if they put their best team in, which means more money to the conference if they can advance a round.
 
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RaceBoarder said:
I'd really like to know that kind of stuff the WCC was smoking when they came up with their tournament format.

For those unaware, it's a 10-team, full stepladder bracket. The #1 & #2 seeds get a bye to the semi-finals. If a #7-#10 seed were to meet them there, it would be the lower seeds FOURTH game in the tournament...

Talk about stacking the field for Gonzaga and St. Mary's.
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I agree that it sort of sucks for teams that can only get into the NCAA's by winning the conference tournament. I think there are a couple of other conferences that have a similar set up, but I might be wrong about that.

I remember reading an article in Las Vegas about that set up a few years ago, and a discussion about whether it was a good idea or not. One thing a structure like that does is that it keeps your top teams from having to go through a meatgrinder 3 game schedule right before the NCAA's start, but that isn't an issue for the WCC which plays its tournament this weekend.

As I recall, the reason is money, of course. Conferences are rewarded based upon appearances and games played. Thus, there is a value to a conference in getting more teams into the tournament, but also value in having those teams win games. I think the argument in favor of the WCC structure is to, a) try to insure that your best teams are in the tournament, and b) that those teams get the best seed possible, easing their path to more wins.

Right now the WCC basically has two teams in the tournament, Gonzaga projected as about a 3 seed and St. Mary's at about a 5 seed. The WCC probably figures that if they play each other for the championship, the loser isn't likely to get dinged much and they will hang onto those favorable seeds.

But if they put them into a more traditional bracket for a conference like this, where each would have to play 3 games, what happens if they both lose to unranked and non-tournament teams. Suddenly Gonzaga finds itself in the dreaded 5-12 match up and St. Mary's might be in a 7-10 or something. The benefit of adding one possible automatic qualifier and having three teams in the tournament, with one pretty much a lock to lose, must not have as much value as having Gonzaga or St. Marys with an easier path to the Sweet 16.
 
A week ago Northwestern looked they they were gonna give Purdue a run for the Big 14 reg season title. Then they proceeded to lose 3 straight, with a trip to Joisey on Sun to play a decent Rutgers team.
 
Down goes (2) Alabama. Kansas beats texas and that'll clinch the 2 'overall' seed and they'll be in the Kansas City regional.
 
Lunardi,

It's an extremely close call among the top three teams on the new seed list -- Kansas, Alabama and Houston -- but the Jayhawks get the nod in this update thanks to their unprecedented Quadrant 1 record (15-6). I understand it seems counterintuitive to move up after a loss, but KU falling at Texas is less of a negative than Alabama losing at Texas A&M. And Houston simply doesn't have the necessary wins to pass either the Big 12 or SEC regular-season champions.
 
Tickets punched:

Southeast Missouri St
UNC Asheville
Drake (barring a massive 20 point comeback by Bradley)
Fairleigh Dickinson - Haven't played their championship game yet but Merrimack is ineligible due to transition rules, so they get the bid by default.
 
NMU's Men's BouncyBall team won the GLIAC title over Michigan Tech today, so they get to go D-2 Dancin'. That's neat.

Now I can't find the answer on the NCAA webpage: For D-2, the opening three rounds are hosted by the top seed in the 8-team Region, correct? They explain everything else, but don't mention hosting duties. Seems like U-Indy or Hillsdale College are the likely hosts for the Midwest region in that scenario.
 
RaceBoarder said:
I'd really like to know that kind of stuff the WCC was smoking when they came up with their tournament format.

For those unaware, it's a 10-team, full stepladder bracket. The #1 & #2 seeds get a bye to the semi-finals. If a #7-#10 seed were to meet them there, it would be the lower seeds FOURTH game in the tournament...

Talk about stacking the field for Gonzaga and St. Mary's.
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For Exhibit A in why the WCC has this format, in the Big Sky tonight #9 seed Northern Arizona (11-22, 5-13) beat #1 Eastern Washington (22-10, 16-2) in the quarterfinals.
 
RaceBoarder said:
NMU's Men's BouncyBall team won the GLIAC title over Michigan Tech today, so they get to go D-2 Dancin'. That's neat.

Now I can't find the answer on the NCAA webpage: For D-2, the opening three rounds are hosted by the top seed in the 8-team Region, correct? They explain everything else, but don't mention hosting duties. Seems like U-Indy or Hillsdale College are the likely hosts for the Midwest region in that scenario.
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I believe that's how it works. Not sure why they do it differently than D1 or D3 which play four team pods at a site.
 
RaceBoarder said:
NMU's Men's BouncyBall team won the GLIAC title over Michigan Tech today, so they get to go D-2 Dancin'. That's neat.

Now I can't find the answer on the NCAA webpage: For D-2, the opening three rounds are hosted by the top seed in the 8-team Region, correct? They explain everything else, but don't mention hosting duties. Seems like U-Indy or Hillsdale College are the likely hosts for the Midwest region in that scenario.
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Yeah, there’s eight regions and (usually) who’s ever the #1 seed in that region will host. They do it that way because it’s significantly cheaper to host 8 regional pods then have a Final 8 somewhere with all the regional winners. D2 and D3 have been doing that way for decades.

Although “cheaper” kinda goes out the window when UAA or one of the Hawaii schools is hosting the West Regional.
 
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