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CCHA teams will join WCHA
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JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
You seem to be "off" quite a bit.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
LakerBlue hit the nail on the head. **** the Big Mistake, **** the BHHC. I wouldn't care if the WCHA schools never scheduled any of them again.
LakerBlue hit the nail on the head. **** the Big Mistake, **** the BHHC. I wouldn't care if the WCHA schools never scheduled any of them again.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Doesn't sound like your school will. That's your perogative.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
Sean
And yet you blast the B1G and NCHC teams for doing what's best for them!
Sean
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
From a very basic stand point, I get what LakerBlue is getting at. Lets face it, the Big Ten schools did what was best for THEM and basically gave a big old middle finger to the "lesser" schools. Then you had the NCHC form out of some of the schools that felt left out and those schools also gave a big old middle finger to what was left of the WCHA and CCHA.
In an ideal world, I would support the apparent lesser school turning around and telling both NCHC and BTHC schools to go the hell away. If they are too good to be in the same conference with say SCSU, why should SCSU work with them to fill a schedule out?
But you know what, its NOT an ideal world. And lets face it, when it all comes down to it its not about hockey, its about money. SCSU, BSU, Kato, etc. all like having the big boys come and play because it draws in the money. They will schedule UMN because they know its best for getting butts in the seat. If scheduling BTHC and/or NCHC teams helps kept "lesser" programs going its better than letting programs shutdown to prove a point.
From a very basic stand point, I get what LakerBlue is getting at. Lets face it, the Big Ten schools did what was best for THEM and basically gave a big old middle finger to the "lesser" schools. Then you had the NCHC form out of some of the schools that felt left out and those schools also gave a big old middle finger to what was left of the WCHA and CCHA.
In an ideal world, I would support the apparent lesser school turning around and telling both NCHC and BTHC schools to go the hell away. If they are too good to be in the same conference with say SCSU, why should SCSU work with them to fill a schedule out?
But you know what, its NOT an ideal world. And lets face it, when it all comes down to it its not about hockey, its about money. SCSU, BSU, Kato, etc. all like having the big boys come and play because it draws in the money. They will schedule UMN because they know its best for getting butts in the seat. If scheduling BTHC and/or NCHC teams helps kept "lesser" programs going its better than letting programs shutdown to prove a point.
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
The Big Ten and NCHC gave the WCHA and CCHA the finger just like the WCHA and CCHA are giving Alabama-Huntsville the finger.
The Big Ten and NCHC gave the WCHA and CCHA the finger just like the WCHA and CCHA are giving Alabama-Huntsville the finger.
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
Soo to Fairbanks: $1208, Huntsville to Fairbanks: $752, LSSU bus to Detroit and fly from there: $740
Soo to Fairbanks: $1208, Huntsville to Fairbanks: $752, LSSU bus to Detroit and fly from there: $740
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
On the flip side, the UMN could just as easily schedule it's NC games against the likes of UND, DU, ND, etc... but it is trying to do the right thing for better or worse. And for the record, I'm not so certain the UMN was all that in favor of the BTHC. At least that's what I've heard. They certainly weren't the ones pushing for it's formation.
And though they may not have been in favor of it, they certainly wouldn't have had much choice if they were out voted (at least if they cared to stay in the B10 for other sports).
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
Your right, and UAH fans have every right to be ****ed at all the Conferences in College hockey that won't accept them. I'm not going to pretend that somehow my favorite school and conference is so noble in all there actions.
Your right, and UAH fans have every right to be ****ed at all the Conferences in College hockey that won't accept them. I'm not going to pretend that somehow my favorite school and conference is so noble in all there actions.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
I don't think any conference or program is completely noble, but I'd like to think there is a root level of respect between all the MN programs. I know I (and many I know) are that way.
As for UAH, I really feel for them.
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
I'm talking more generally. As far as the Gophers go, I'm not sure where they stood while the Big Ten was being formed. I'm not going to give them a huge thank you note for scheduling the other Minnesota schools either. It makes sense for them to play teams that are as close as the other Minnesota schools. A non conference matchup with a team thats just an hour bus ride away is much more attractive then going out of state. I'm not going to pretend that somehow Minnesota is great because they are willing to schedule teams that are closer to them and have some history with over other non conference teams. Plus, I would wager a non conference game against the Minnesota school will put more people at Minnesota home games as well than many other possible non conference games.
I'm talking more generally. As far as the Gophers go, I'm not sure where they stood while the Big Ten was being formed. I'm not going to give them a huge thank you note for scheduling the other Minnesota schools either. It makes sense for them to play teams that are as close as the other Minnesota schools. A non conference matchup with a team thats just an hour bus ride away is much more attractive then going out of state. I'm not going to pretend that somehow Minnesota is great because they are willing to schedule teams that are closer to them and have some history with over other non conference teams. Plus, I would wager a non conference game against the Minnesota school will put more people at Minnesota home games as well than many other possible non conference games.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
So now every college hockey team west of Buffalo, NY, (except for USAFA and UAH) plus one (Penn State) has "they killed college hockey" blood on their hands.
So now every college hockey team west of Buffalo, NY, (except for USAFA and UAH) plus one (Penn State) has "they killed college hockey" blood on their hands.
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gopher wes
Dammit, Gorilla!!
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
My apologies. I think you got my point....
Excuse me for not having my "facts straight". Apparently I haven't had time to make it to all the SUCS home games to see what attendance was like for a sconnie and DU series.
My apologies. I think you got my point....
MUhawks628
Love & Honor
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
We should all be ashamed of ourselves.
So now every college hockey team west of Buffalo, NY, (except for USAFA and UAH) plus one (Penn State) has "they killed college hockey" blood on their hands.
We should all be ashamed of ourselves.
SCSU Euro
New member
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
What do you mean we never played UW at home? And playing the Gophers once a year does not exactly mean "problem solved." Now based on the temporary 12-team league, yeah, you only lose one extra series with them every 5 years, but based on when we were in a ten team league with them, that's a series we're losing every other year. And I've seen the Gophers say they'll play us every year, I haven't seen anything that has said they'll come to our building every other year. I'll priase a 1:1 deal when I see it.
Honestly, I'm not upset with MN or even UW... UW ay have wanted the Big10 to happen, it was circumstances that created Penn State getting money, and once they got 6 teams they HAD to form a league. MN doesn't sound like they wanted it... conference with 4 in-state rivals, UND, CC, DU, hell even they have some good ties to MTU, and Anchorage which meant extra games a lot of years. They formed a conference they were required to and they have traditions. I don't like the knee-jerk, panic reaction of the NCHC, and I think DU and UND are most responsible, so there's where my frustration and disappointment, particularly in UND, lie.
That being said, I wanna keep playing ALL of them. This, "Let's stop scheduling those ********" attitude is purely cutting off your no to spite your face. If we say **** you to DU and UND, they'll go, "Oh... well ok," and they'll move on. I think UND will miss playing their WCHA paired rival, a team that's pretty close, and a team that they've had some great matchups with, but they'll move on, and they'll be fine. DU won't care if we never play them again, and I only wanna play DU because they're a good caliber team, but tommy's right, the NHC doesn't care when the Jelly Doughnuts come to town. Of course I wanna see MN, they're important financially, and to a lesser extent so are UW and tUMD. I may have bad feelings towards some of those teams, but giving them the finger when they're gonna do fine without us and they're still our best draws (MN, UND, UW, tUMD our best 4 draws I believe, in that order) isn't the right way to go about it. The right way is to schedule them whenever we can, make some $ off of them, and see if we can't knock beat them on the ice.
What do you mean we never played UW at home? And playing the Gophers once a year does not exactly mean "problem solved." Now based on the temporary 12-team league, yeah, you only lose one extra series with them every 5 years, but based on when we were in a ten team league with them, that's a series we're losing every other year. And I've seen the Gophers say they'll play us every year, I haven't seen anything that has said they'll come to our building every other year. I'll priase a 1:1 deal when I see it.
Honestly, I'm not upset with MN or even UW... UW ay have wanted the Big10 to happen, it was circumstances that created Penn State getting money, and once they got 6 teams they HAD to form a league. MN doesn't sound like they wanted it... conference with 4 in-state rivals, UND, CC, DU, hell even they have some good ties to MTU, and Anchorage which meant extra games a lot of years. They formed a conference they were required to and they have traditions. I don't like the knee-jerk, panic reaction of the NCHC, and I think DU and UND are most responsible, so there's where my frustration and disappointment, particularly in UND, lie.
That being said, I wanna keep playing ALL of them. This, "Let's stop scheduling those ********" attitude is purely cutting off your no to spite your face. If we say **** you to DU and UND, they'll go, "Oh... well ok," and they'll move on. I think UND will miss playing their WCHA paired rival, a team that's pretty close, and a team that they've had some great matchups with, but they'll move on, and they'll be fine. DU won't care if we never play them again, and I only wanna play DU because they're a good caliber team, but tommy's right, the NHC doesn't care when the Jelly Doughnuts come to town. Of course I wanna see MN, they're important financially, and to a lesser extent so are UW and tUMD. I may have bad feelings towards some of those teams, but giving them the finger when they're gonna do fine without us and they're still our best draws (MN, UND, UW, tUMD our best 4 draws I believe, in that order) isn't the right way to go about it. The right way is to schedule them whenever we can, make some $ off of them, and see if we can't knock beat them on the ice.
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
The Big 10 and NCHC teams that bolted the current conference arrangements for purely perceived economic advantages are going to be stuck walking a fine line. They need to continue to support the smaller programs, to allow college hockey to flourish, but they also need to raise revenue. We'll see how much the Big 10 network prefers to have MN playing BSU, as opposed to Notre Dame or Boston College.
I'm going to take a wait and see approach regarding scheduling. Unlike 4four4, I didn't read Roman's blog to mean that MN will be penciling in 10 games, year after year, against UMD, SCSU, BSU and Mankato, between the home and homes, games against Duluth, and the Xcel Minnnesota tourney. But maybe.
The Big 10 and NCHC teams that bolted the current conference arrangements for purely perceived economic advantages are going to be stuck walking a fine line. They need to continue to support the smaller programs, to allow college hockey to flourish, but they also need to raise revenue. We'll see how much the Big 10 network prefers to have MN playing BSU, as opposed to Notre Dame or Boston College.
First Time Long Time
Rebuilding
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
LakerBlue, the only mouth foaming is from you.
LakerBlue, the only mouth foaming is from you.
SCSU Euro
New member
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
Then why weren't the Gophers playing Bemidji much before? And trivia question: how often did they GO to Bemidji for non-conference? You act like they NEED to come up with close-by road games. When do the Gophers go on the road for OOC? Not often. They could tell ECAC and AHA and even Hockey East schools "Come to our barn... and don't expect a return trip" and get away with it. So if they give us anything close to a 1:1 deal, I for one will be very appreciative.
Then why weren't the Gophers playing Bemidji much before? And trivia question: how often did they GO to Bemidji for non-conference? You act like they NEED to come up with close-by road games. When do the Gophers go on the road for OOC? Not often. They could tell ECAC and AHA and even Hockey East schools "Come to our barn... and don't expect a return trip" and get away with it. So if they give us anything close to a 1:1 deal, I for one will be very appreciative.
scsutommyboy
Frozen four or Bust!!
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA
I said over the last 20 years. When the Huskies played the Gophers every year they only got UW at home once every three or four years. With the 12 teams it would have been more, but that hasn't happened and now the league has split up.
I know it is not in writing yet but I heard we will do a home and home with them every year and so will Mankato. then UMD and BSU will trade off years. That way they still get the home games they need every year. Is this for sure? no, but you don't know it won't happen either....
I said over the last 20 years. When the Huskies played the Gophers every year they only got UW at home once every three or four years. With the 12 teams it would have been more, but that hasn't happened and now the league has split up.
I know it is not in writing yet but I heard we will do a home and home with them every year and so will Mankato. then UMD and BSU will trade off years. That way they still get the home games they need every year. Is this for sure? no, but you don't know it won't happen either....