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CCHA teams will join WCHA

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HA! Cloud fans barely even make the 1hr trip to Minneapolis! You think they are going to travel out of state in large numbers? ;)
You're right...SCSU fans travel for shyte! The only fans the travel in any real numbers are the UND fans.
 
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I think I would get as much satisfaction out of seeing you boys change your story ;)

I think it would be funny to see a president say that he doesn't want to be in a league that he was never invited to join in the first place. Then have to back track. I still don't see them getting in the NCHC anyway.
 
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Honestly, you have every right to. I don't care for the say one thing do another BS. Don't worry, you didn't hurt my feelings.

It's time for the Gophers to get back to NCAAs. Good luck this season.
We can only hope so, Bronze. I will be there watching either way. Just got my tickets in the mail yesterday for the two games @Cloud. Looking forward to coming out to the dugout for a little pregame too:)
 
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I think it would be funny to see a president say that he doesn't want to be in a league that he was never invited to join in the first place. Then have to back track. I still don't see them getting in the NCHC anyway.

Whatever.

Meanwhile, time is running out regarding the 30-day offers tendered to BGSU and WMU last month. Somewhat surprised no response from BGSU at this time based upon comments from some of their athletics personnel or administration officials at the time of the offers were made by the WCHA. IMHO, it must be frustrating for BSGU which appears to be in a situation where it wants more time to decide what is best for their program.
 
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Whatever.

Meanwhile, time is running out regarding the 30-day offers tendered to BGSU and WMU last month. Somewhat surprised no response from BGSU at this time based upon comments from some of their athletics personnel or administration officials at the time of the offers were made by the WCHA. IMHO, it must be frustrating for BSGU which appears to be in a situation where it wants more time to decide what is best for their program.

Bowling Green is waiting for Western who's waiting for Notre Dame.
 
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What is wrong with having the tourney at the regular season champions arena?

Not all the those towns can equip that many teams and their fan bases. If this ends up a 8 team league, you're talking about 3. If it ends up at 10, that's potentially four, if its 12, and they decide to have six move on, 5 more teams. Again, not even saying they'll have a HUGE fan base with them, but that's tough to support for those tiny towns. Hell, it'd be a stretch for St. Cloud to host a 6 team tourney, and they're in one of the best situations to.

If that happens, and many SCSU fans agree with me, you guys are *ing morons who don't ever deserve any respect at all. Buncha hypocrites. Stick to your guns.

Sincerely,

A guy who wished the BiG Mistake never happened, along with the NaCHo(C) Conference.

You can call me a lot of things, hell you have, but if this happens and I do my victory dance, then you can't call me a hypocrite. As soon as the NCHC was formed I thought it was stupid and unnecessary, but if its gonna happen, I'd rather be on the inside looking out than vice-versa. Let's say that for SCSU tUMD and UND vs. MSU-M and BSU are a wash (they're not, but let's even say they are)... then my choice is play with DU, CC and UNO or MTU, UAA and the CCHA? Gee... lemme think. I enjoy travelling to the Ralph and the Qwest and I was looking forward to getting to see Amsoil and the Colorado barns. But if we bolt for the NCHC than outside of the in-state teams we leave behind, I'll miss one thing and one thing only... USCHO MTU fans. I'm sure we'll probably stay in the WCHA, and I'm sure we'll develop good relationships and some rivalries with the CCHA teams coming in, but I can't miss what I haven't tasted.

HA! Cloud fans barely even make the 1hr trip to Minneapolis! You think they are going to travel out of state in large numbers? ;)

You forget that its not like there's a lot of us. Next time the Huskies play at Mariucci do an informal poll... stop every one in cardinal and black and ask if they attended SCSU. Throw out the kids with them and I'll bet 90% say they did. St. Cloud's in a community that still supports the Gophers as much or more than the Huskies. Its not like Minnesota, Wisconsin or North Dakota where EVERYBODY around there cheers for the Gophers, Badgers and Sioux. I'm not saying we travel well, but considering the small number of people who claim allegiance to team, we don't travel horribly either.
 
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Euro, how many people do think will go the WCHA tourney? $5,000 tops? Most of the people in the crowd will be the home teams fans so hotels and stuff won't matter.
 
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You forget that its not like there's a lot of us. Next time the Huskies play at Mariucci do an informal poll... stop every one in cardinal and black and ask if they attended SCSU. Throw out the kids with them and I'll bet 90% say they did. St. Cloud's in a community that still supports the Gophers as much or more than the Huskies. Its not like Minnesota, Wisconsin or North Dakota where EVERYBODY around there cheers for the Gophers, Badgers and Sioux. I'm not saying we travel well, but considering the small number of people who claim allegiance to team, we don't travel horribly either.
SCSU does not have a small fanbase. As someone who is involved in many aspects of the community, I'd say this town is at least 80% SCSU. I can only think of a handful of UMTC fans. Face it, St Cloud is not a great sports town. Even fan support for Tech High, Apollo, Sartell, Sauk Rapids, and Cathedral is weak. However, SCSU hockey fans travel much better than UMD or Mankato fans.
 
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SCSU does not have a small fanbase. As someone who is involved in many aspects of the community, I'd say this town is at least 80% SCSU. I can only think of a handful of UMTC fans. Face it, St Cloud is not a great sports town. Even fan support for Tech High, Apollo, Sartell, Sauk Rapids, and Cathedral is weak. However, SCSU hockey fans travel much better than UMD or Mankato fans.

80% might if questioned who they root for might say "The Huskies" in passing. What percentage could tell you we're in a conference with Colorado College? Hell, I don't think 50% could name the conference, or might not even be able to come up with Wisconsin as a same conference team. But my bigger point wasn't what people say in town, its that those who travel for SCSU games almost ALWAYS went to the school. What % of those in green and black at the Final 5 attended UND?
 
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80% might if questioned who they root for might say "The Huskies" in passing. What percentage could tell you we're in a conference with Colorado College? Hell, I don't think 50% could name the conference, or might not even be able to come up with Wisconsin as a same conference team. But my bigger point wasn't what people say in town, its that those who travel for SCSU games almost ALWAYS went to the school. What % of those in green and black at the Final 5 attended UND?

I'd agree with that
 
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You forget that its not like there's a lot of us. Next time the Huskies play at Mariucci do an informal poll... stop every one in cardinal and black and ask if they attended SCSU. Throw out the kids with them and I'll bet 90% say they did. St. Cloud's in a community that still supports the Gophers as much or more than the Huskies. Its not like Minnesota, Wisconsin or North Dakota where EVERYBODY around there cheers for the Gophers, Badgers and Sioux. I'm not saying we travel well, but considering the small number of people who claim allegiance to team, we don't travel horribly either.
There is no question there are many residents of North Dakota, Minnesota or Wisconsin who never attended those universities but still choose to cheer for that state's flagship hockey program. I have many friends in that situation. However, it's my experience they don't, as a rule, travel to watch those sports teams play.

SCSU is not alone in college hockey when it comes to fans not "traveling well." In fact it's the rule, not the exception.

Fans of schools like Wisconsin, Minnesota and Michigan are perceived as traveling well, but that's only because of the gigantic alumni base they each have.

For small schools, UND fans are perceived as traveling as well as any big school, and frankly, as well as anyone in college hockey, primarily because of a couple of unique circumstances.

First, there are a substantial number of alumni in the Twin Cities and Denver areas. UND grads seem to have migrated specifially to these two locales more than any other, and they happen to be the two largest television markets in the WCHA footprint. They are also within very close driving distance from a number of other WCHA teams (Mankato, SCSU, CC).

Second, there have been affirmative steps taken to get UND fans to away games. If no one does anything, and you just depend upon fans, on their own, to make the decision to go, make arrangements, etc..., many fewer fans will make the trip. Al Pearson, from Grand Forks, and the UND Alumni group have both actively lined up tickets, bus/plane transportation and lodging for groups to go to various away games, including Colorado, Maine, etc... Without the efforts of Al and the Alumni group there would be far fewer green, black and white jerseys in the stands for UND away games.

Finally, UND hockey has really been the only game in town for North Dakota sports. We've always had good, small school football, an avid high school basketball following and the like. But for sports on a national level, UND hockey has been it. And candidly, any reason to get out of Grand Forks in the winter, even for a few days, is a good reason.
 
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