Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Populi!

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

Trump is acting like a complete moron at every speech. Yet his overall numbers and competitiveness for the election isn't really going done. He should be disqualified at this point.

He said that there was a mexican plane overhead starting a war with the US during a recent one? ***?

 

[aparch]

I am continually amazed at how all-male groups of professionals over the age of 60 (or any age if they're southern) talk about women when none are present.

At my work it's Eternal 1972.

Working here has moderated my position on things like guns, but it's made me 50x stronger a feminist. That sh-t still goes on.

Same in my industry. Not sure if the one foreman I was working with was trying to be an a**hole, or just naturally is. We're working on one side of the street and on the other side a very gorgeous girl is walking her dog. Foreman oogle's her until after she passes and goes to whistle/cat call her.

I turned away embarassed. The other inspector looked at him, and he looked at the two of us and said "What? They like that when you do that. Let's 'em know how pretty they are."

I walked away, otherwise he would have been wearing my clipboard in his jugular.

 

[aparch]

Trump is acting like a complete moron at every speech. Yet his overall numbers and competitiveness for the election isn't really going done. He should be disqualified at this point.

He said that there was a mexican plane overhead starting a war with the US during a recent one? ***?

IRS may get involved soon. Washington Post is claiming they found where Trump purchased sports memorabilia using one of his charity bank accounts and not his personal account.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

You know how we have no FEC and we basically have 1% of the federal election laws we used to?

It is entirely possible that Trump managed to break those laws.

This is roughly equivalent to having someone rewrite the definition of murder to only apply to cases of ivory tusk goring, and then here comes Trump leading an elephant....

Edit: note this is a totally different situation than the one aparch is talking about below. Good lord, this campaign is the greatest surrealist performance art installation in history.

So it actually seems as if Trump violated the only two sections of campaign law that have survived the purge of the last 30 years.

 

[walrus]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

I am continually amazed at how all-male groups of professionals over the age of 60 (or any age if they're southern) talk about women when none are present.

Are you that naive? Its a good ol boy world and its more than 60 yr olds

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

Are you that naive? Its a good ol boy world and its more than 60 yr olds

I guess I am. I just had not met unreconstructed sexists in my other careers.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

Oh boy.

 

[mookie1995]

I think you are correct. Johnson / Weld is more like a moderate / socially inclusive republican ticket.

I've never gone 3rd party, but given the choices that the two major parties have presented us, I'm pretty sure this is how I'll be voting. Unless something of course.

Our votes here don't matter anyhows

So no reason to not experiment

 

[burd]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

Oh boy.

It will be great sport trying to spot the ones with hidden guns and oversized amygdalas.

 

[walrus]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

So Hilary gets to meet with FBI this weekend. I bet they talk about the grandchildren just like Bill and the AG did.

 

[Rover]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

So Hilary gets to meet with FBI this weekend. I bet they talk about the grandchildren just like Bill and the AG did.

Good because its about time this wrapped up. Not sure why this thing has dragged out for a whole year. Either Hillary knowingly sent info marked classified at the time via her personal e-mail or she didn't. If not this is a failing to archive properly issue. How long does it take to read 55,000 e-mails anyway? Most of them are probably of the one and two sentence variety.

Reminds me of the IRS thing. If you have the goods on the Admin, you give the Lois Lerner's of the world total immunity and fire up public hearings. When it starts dragging for years in total secrecy, you have to wonder if its just CYA to say a thorough investigation was done.

PS - Some knuck' will no doubt try to point out that some IT geek requested immunity to testify in the e-mail matter. I don't blame the guy because if there's nothing on Hillary he's going to be the person left holding the bag (again, back to Lois Lerner) as right wingers seek to make an example out of somebody.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

If you have the goods on the Admin, you give the Lois Lerner's of the world total immunity and fire up public hearings. When it starts dragging for years in total secrecy, you have to wonder if its just CYA to say a thorough investigation was done.

This is so true I had to triple take to confirm who wrote it.

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

So Hilary gets to meet with FBI this weekend. I bet they talk about the grandchildren just like Bill and the AG did.

It would really chap your hide if they did.

 

[5mn_Major]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

This is pretty stupid that the FBI says 'we'll just get around to investigating Hillary when we do'. They've got enough resources...and if they can't understand the implications to the country of letting this slide for 2 or 10 months...then the FBI brass should all be fired.

Oh boy.

Shocked I say, that attendees can't bring guns into the GOP convention. Aren't they supposed to make everyone safer?

 

[burd]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

Good because its about time this wrapped up. Not sure why this thing has dragged out for a whole year. Either Hillary knowingly sent info marked classified at the time via her personal e-mail or she didn't. If not this is a failing to archive properly issue. How long does it take to read 55,000 e-mails anyway? Most of them are probably of the one and two sentence variety.

Reminds me of the IRS thing. If you have the goods on the Admin, you give the Lois Lerner's of the world total immunity and fire up public hearings. When it starts dragging for years in total secrecy, you have to wonder if its just CYA to say a thorough investigation was done.

PS - Some knuck' will no doubt try to point out that some IT geek requested immunity to testify in the e-mail matter. I don't blame the guy because if there's nothing on Hillary he's going to be the person left holding the bag (again, back to Lois Lerner) as right wingers seek to make an example out of somebody.

It's been going on for for more than 20 years. Truth is not the goal, and it is not necessary. Keep the noise out there with travelgate, Whitewater, Vince Foster, Benghazi . . . noise to establish a cognitive connection between the Clinton name and the word "dishonest." Spend millions on investigations into accusations which ultimately prove to be unfounded and which, ironically besmirch the name of the falsely accused. Smart.

Those so afraid of Clintons should spend their time and money attacking policy. Not as effective, but at least they can get down to the merits of the case.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

It's been going on for for more than 20 years. Truth is not the goal, and it is not necessary. Keep the noise out there with travelgate, Whitewater, Vince Foster, Benghazi . . . noise to establish a cognitive connection between the Clinton name and the word "dishonest." Spend millions on investigations into accusations which ultimately prove to be unfounded and which, ironically besmirch the name of the falsely accused. Smart.

Those so afraid of Clintons should spend their time and money attacking policy. Not as effective, but at least they can get down to the merits of the case.

The GOP exists for only one reason: keep the highest tax bracket rates low. They accomplished that with Reagan in 1981. Since then everything they have done has been playing defense: prevent that one thing from being reversed.

The distractions have just been part of the way they've prevented it. The culture wars are how they pen in just enough votes to keep their people in power to prevent it. Freezing government has been another way, because every day the status quo is maintained is another day their donors get richer. And it's worked for 35 years and 9 presidential terms, 4 of which have been the opposing party, and even as every other group in the country -- middle class or poor, white or minority, men or women, military or civilian, liberal or conservative -- have been hurt, often lethally.

Literally nothing else matters for them.

How does a plutocracy protect itself in a democracy? This has been a master class.

 

[joecct]

The GOP exists for only one reason: keep the highest tax bracket rates low. They accomplished that with Reagan in 1981. Since then everything they have done has been playing defense: prevent that one thing from being reversed.

The distractions have just been part of the way they've prevented it. The culture wars are how they pen in just enough votes to keep their people in power to prevent it. Freezing government has been another way, because every day the status quo is maintained is another day their donors get richer. And it's worked for 35 years and 9 presidential terms, 4 of which have been the opposing party, and even as every other group in the country -- middle class or poor, white or minority, men or women, military or civilian, liberal or conservative -- have been hurt, often lethally.

Literally nothing else matters for them.

How does a plutocracy protect itself in a democracy? This has been a master class.

Didn't Reagan's Tax Reform pass through a completely Democratic Congress? I can distincly remember Sen. Moynihan arguing that state income taxes should still be deductible.

Didn't JFK cut the top rate from 90% tp 70%?

 

[SonofSouthie]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

This is pretty stupid that the FBI says 'we'll just get around to investigating Hillary when we do'. They've got enough resources...and if they can't understand the implications to the country of letting this slide for 2 or 10 months...then the FBI brass should all be fired.

Shocked I say, that attendees can't bring guns into the GOP convention. Aren't they supposed to make everyone safer?

Good guys with a gun.

 

[Rover]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIII: Clinton destrueretur est. Trump est destruetur. Vox Pop

Didn't Reagan's Tax Reform pass through a completely Democratic Congress? I can distincly remember Sen. Moynihan arguing that state income taxes should still be deductible.

Didn't JFK cut the top rate from 90% tp 70%?

GOP held the Senate from 1981 to 1987. Always amazed me how Goopers completely and conveniently "forget" about that...

 

[joecct]

GOP held the Senate from 1981 to 1987. Always amazed me how Goopers completely and conveniently "forget" about that...

Given the Democratic stranglehold on the Congress in my youth, it's easy to forget. Yankeee fans have the same problem with 1954, 1955, 1957 and 1959.