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Campaign 2016 -- Don't Let the Perfect Become the Enemy of the Good

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Depends. If they lose 5% of NYC or LA/SF or Chicago - who cares? Those states are going blue even if Jimmy Carter is the nominee.

Pull that 5% from FL, OH, NC, VA - trubbles.

Hence the "nationwide" qualifier in my original statement.
 
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Given how tight Trump has been with the Clintons and various Democrat donations until recent years, I'm tossing my hat into the conspirtorial ring and saying he's doing this to help Hilary and somehow get a big payday (rescinding of some law or the push for another) from her after the election.
 
Given how tight Trump has been with the Clintons and various Democrat donations until recent years, I'm tossing my hat into the conspirtorial ring and saying he's doing this to help Hilary and somehow get a big payday (rescinding of some law or the push for another) from her after the election.
Pardon for his hair.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 -- Don't Let the Perfect Become the Enemy of the Good

Given how tight Trump has been with the Clintons and various Democrat donations until recent years, I'm tossing my hat into the conspirtorial ring and saying he's doing this to help Hilary and somehow get a big payday (rescinding of some law or the push for another) from her after the election.

I've heard that rumor floating around. I'm not sure on that. He's always seemed like a self preserving optimist to me. Its true, he's not a typical GOP candidate...but it just seems to me that he's kind of doing it to gain publicity. What do you want when you have anything you want? To make a public splash in the national scene I guess. And to that end, it seems he's kind of winging it along the way. But we may find out...and we may never know.
 
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Depends. If they lose 5% of NYC or LA/SF or Chicago - who cares? Those states are going blue even if Jimmy Carter is the nominee.

Pull that 5% from FL, OH, NC, VA - trubbles.

Yeah except that wouldnt be where the GOP loses them and you know it. Trump is going to pull fundies from all over and every white male who doesnt vote GOP is a huge loss cause White Males are pretty much their only base.
 
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Yeah except that wouldnt be where the GOP loses them and you know it. Trump is going to pull fundies from all over and every white male who doesnt vote GOP is a huge loss cause White Males are pretty much their only base.
But you do have to admit that the fundies tend to be congregated in states that are bleeding red. So what if he pulls 5% away from the south? Loss of thousands of white males in Georgia is just as irrelevant to the GOP as losing thousands of African American votes in NY would be to the Dems.
 
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But you do have to admit that the fundies tend to be congregated in states that are bleeding red. So what if he pulls 5% away from the south? Loss of thousands of white males in Georgia is just as irrelevant to the GOP as losing thousands of African American votes in NY would be to the Dems.

Temporary problem.

It would be weird for the Fundies to rally behind Trump, about the least spiritual man I can think of, but their patron saint is The Actor, who was the model of Hollywood spiritual superficiality. If you suck up to them then they love you, whatever your real world behavior. I believe Jesus had some words about the Pharisees on the subject. :)

This map purports to show the population density of self-identified Christian fundamentalists in the US. The battleground states with important Fundy centers are FL, NC, VA and CO -- any three of which the GOP has to win to have any shot . So it would matter, though I don't think it would happen. Running for president is a lot of work, and Trump is lazy.
 
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When I use fundies I dont just mean the wacko Jesus lovers, I mean anyone that is the radical wing of whichever base they are part of. Some are Jesus-philiacs, some are the loonies that live in log cabins ready for the militia revolt, some are tea partiers who government handouts but take more government handouts than poor people and some are the real wackadoos like Flaggy. To me, fundies are the people who watch Faux News and think they are too moderate.

If Trump gets these people to vote for him (cause he represents them because all he does is provoke fights like a troll) then the GOP will lose pretty much all the battleground states.
 
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Hillary is in big trouble. Polls are falling. Benghazi hearing again. Emails won't go away.
 
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My guess is she costs the Dems the election and we get whatever clown the GOP puts up.

she may be the only person in the country who could get the donald elected (and that would be fun).
 
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Hillary is in big trouble. Polls are falling. Benghazi hearing again. Emails won't go away.
Nah, Redumblicans have been overplaying their hands with this for far too long, only long term affect will be to make them look petty and give Hillary a simple talking point about how much money they are willing to waste on a political witch hunt.
 
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LOL.

Sure.

Just let him play up his bit...remember he thinks the Yawning Fraud from Sconnie is gonna win and guaranteed a Romney win last time ;)
 
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Just let him play up his bit...remember he thinks the Yawning Fraud from Sconnie is gonna win and guaranteed a Romney win last time ;)

Not anymore. I never thought his campaign WHILE LEADING IOWA would be so stupid as to kick the Donald Nest. What an idiot.

And after Huckabee's Oven comments this weekend. You go ahead and pick a winner from this field. Hillary has issues but these guys don't know how to keep their flaps shut.
 
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And after Huckabee's Oven comments this weekend. You go ahead and pick a winner from this field. Hillary has issues but these guys don't know how to keep their flaps shut.

Good god, I had not seen that. Somebody needs to take these candidates aside and explain the difference between speaking for the people and speaking for the mob.
 
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