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Campaign 2016 -- Don't Let the Perfect Become the Enemy of the Good

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Re: Campaign 2016 -- Don't Let the Perfect Become the Enemy of the Good

What's going to happen next year? Everyone has about as much charisma as Wally from the Dilbert comic strip! Sorta like 1988 (I'm not sure Bush Sr was any more interesting than the Duke but winning big tends to change people's perception of you...).

Senior didn't have much charisma, but he had more than Dukakis. This does seem like a reprise of 88. Hillary is running for a third term (granted with a 16 year gap) and is a droning, passionless automaton, but her opponent will likely be even worse (Walker, Jeb!, Rubio). If the incumbent could run again he'd beat all these folks.
 
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What's going to happen next year? Everyone has about as much charisma as Wally from the Dilbert comic strip!

BTW, I work with a guy who is exactly like Wally. Even looks like him. Plus he gets the Dilbert calendar every year. It's really difficult to concentrate on what he's saying, I just put words in a little bubble over his head about faking his indispensability.
 
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Tom Cotton is the one who called Kerry Pontius Pilate.

These are your conservative leaders folks. Frankly, I'll take Kerry, Obama, Hillary, Sanders, and Warren over any of those *** clowns. I can't think of one *** clown on the GOP side that's even attempting to tamp down these morons.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 -- Don't Let the Perfect Become the Enemy of the Good

Senior didn't have much charisma, but he had more than Dukakis. This does seem like a reprise of 88. Hillary is running for a third term (granted with a 16 year gap) and is a droning, passionless automaton, but her opponent will likely be even worse (Walker, Jeb!, Rubio). If the incumbent could run again he'd beat all these folks.

Lets call it like it is. Hillary's "appeal" is that she's a woman and this could be the last chance for awhile to get another female nominee. In case nobody noticed, women aren't exactly holding down very many top slots in the GOP leadership, and for Dems the next most prominent woman after Hillary is Lizzy Warren who's in her mid-60's I believe. Saying women, especially older ones, won't vote for her in greater #'s than they would normally for a Dem candidate is like saying the Irish didn't come out for Kennedy or blacks for Obama. Love her or hate her, but he candidacy is historic. Voters like making history, and unless Cruz or Rubio is the nominee (1st Hispanic) then I don't see that happening when they whip out the usual generic stiff stuck in 1980.

Besides, put aside all the issues and consider the fun factor. A Hillary Presidency shoves it up the *** sideways of all the right people! Can you image listening to the Limbaugh show the next morning? :D :D :D
 
Re: Campaign 2016 -- Don't Let the Perfect Become the Enemy of the Good

Keep on rockin' in the free world, Bernie:

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In the meantime, let me be very blunt and tell you why I am running.

This country faces more serious problems today than at any time in modern history, and establishment politics will not successfully resolve them.

Corporate greed is rampant, and the very rich keep growing richer while everyone else grows poorer. Despite an explosion in technology and a huge increase in productivity, the middle class continues to disappear, most Americans work longer hours for lower wages, and 45 million live in poverty.

The skyrocketing level of income and wealth inequality is not only grotesque and immoral, it is economically unsustainable. It is unconscionable that 99% of all new income goes to the top 1%. It is absurd that the top one-tenth of 1% own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%, and that one family (the Waltons of Walmart) has more wealth than the bottom 130 million Americans.

As a result of the disastrous Supreme Court ruling on Citizens United, the billionaire class is spending huge amounts of money to buy candidates and elections. We are now witnessing the undermining of American democracy and the rapid movement toward oligarchy where a handful of very wealthy families and their Super PACs will control our government.

The scientific community is virtually unanimous in telling us that climate change is real, is caused by human activity, and is already bringing catastrophic damage to our planet. Yet, the Republican Party is prepared to reject science in order to gain campaign contributions from the Koch brothers, Big Energy companies and others who make billions on fossil fuels. If we do not act boldly on climate change, the planet we leave to our grandchildren may be uninhabitable.

The United States once led the world in terms of the percentage of our young people who had college degrees. Today, in a highly competitive global economy, we are now in 12th place. Hundreds of thousands of bright young people have given up on the dream of higher education, while millions of others leave school with oppressive debt.

Our infrastructure -- roads, bridges, rail, airports, water systems, wastewater plants, levees, dams -- is crumbling, and Congress refuses to appropriate anywhere near the necessary funds to rebuild it. If we do not invest substantially in infrastructure, a bad situation will only become much worse.

Despite substantial gains, we still have a long way to go to achieve equality for minorities. Instead of investing in opportunities, we are locking people up at an incredible rate. We now have the highest incarceration rate in the entire world with over 2 million in prison and millions more on probation or parole. We have a broken immigration system that divides families and keeps millions of hard-working people in the shadows.

Most of the major Wall Street financial institutions that we bailed out because they were "too big to fail," are now bigger than they used to be. The six largest financial institutions now have assets equivalent to nearly 60% of our GDP, issue 35% of the mortgages, and oversee 65% of credit cards.

Our tax system is wildly unfair - rigged to benefit the very rich. Major corporations that earn billions in profits stash their money in tax havens and pay nothing in federal income taxes, while billionaire hedge fund managers pay a lower effective tax rate than nurses or teachers.

Despite growing poverty among seniors, almost all Republicans, and some Democrats, want to cut Social Security and benefits for disabled veterans. They want more austerity for the elderly, the children, the sick and the poor, and more tax breaks for the rich.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost us thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. The United States spends more on the military than the next nine biggest-spending countries combined. Today, there are massive cost over-runs with defense contractors and the Pentagon cannot even pass an independent audit.

We are at a moment of truth. We need to face up to the reality of where we are as a nation, and we need a mass movement of people to change that reality.

Let's be clear. This campaign is not about Bernie Sanders. It's about a grassroots movement of Americans standing up and saying: "Enough is enough. This country and our government belong to all of us, not just a handful of billionaires."

https://go.berniesanders.com/sneak-peek
 
Re: Campaign 2016 -- Don't Let the Perfect Become the Enemy of the Good

Besides, put aside all the issues and consider the fun factor. A Hillary Presidency shoves it up the *** sideways of all the right people! Can you image listening to the Limbaugh show the next morning? :D :D :D

Rush will be popping champagne if Hillary wins. Nothing will line his pockets more.

The Echo Chamber is actually one of the strongest assets the Dems has. The GOP can't self-correct because nothing ideologically challenging is allowed through the filter. And the divas on Hate Radio have no incentive to change, because GOP losses generate more dollars in rage and resentment.
 
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You think he cares? That's money in the bank for him. He'll makes millions off bashing her

A fair point, but there's plenty of TRUE BELIEVERS! to listen to for the fun of it. :D
 
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Besides, put aside all the issues and consider the fun factor. A Hillary Presidency shoves it up the *** sideways of all the right people! Can you image listening to the Limbaugh show the next morning? :D :D :D

Talk radio is one constituency that would rejoice if Hillary hauls all her stinky baggage over to the White House. In fact it might be the only thing that could resurrect Rush's career and get him back in the big markets. He's been losing audience ever since Slick left town.
 
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Talk radio is one constituency that would rejoice if Hillary hauls all her stinky baggage over to the White House. In fact it might be the only thing that could resurrect Rush's career and get him back in the big markets. He's been losing audience ever since Slick left town.

Really? I thought he was still #1 with a bullet. Who's the new Bloviator-in-Chief?

Edit: from this it look like he is still King Derp.
 
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Back in the 90s, his listnter base was 20-25 milion. He's down a bit.

Wow. Is it just that others realized there's gold in them thar rubes? There are so many Hate Radio jocks now I can't even keep them straight. Just from that list of the top 5 or so they're accounting for about 40 million of our Neanderthal neighbors.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 -- Don't Let the Perfect Become the Enemy of the Good

All you need to know about the GOP.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/i-think-debates-truth-matters?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Synopsis.

Cruz says truth in debate matters.
He then lies in the debate.
It's proven he lied.
The GOP media spins it that he took down the far left in the debated point.

You cannot make it up. It's all right there. From the Washington Post.


It turned into a debate between the self-identified avatar of “courageous conservatives” and the omnipresent anti-war activists of Code Pink – and it lasted as long as the average sitcom episode. The result, captured on video by the Cruz-positive team at Breitbart News, is among the most popular conservative entertainment of the past week. […]

This encounter did not make the rounds on the left; it went viral on the right. A recap of the debate became the top trending story at the Washington Examiner. Washington Free Beacon reporter Adam Kredo, who stood right by Cruz during the debate, reported that the senator “tussled with and shut down a group of left wing activists.” On the first-generation conservative blog Powerline, it was reported that Cruz had “crushed” Code Pink.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 -- Don't Let the Perfect Become the Enemy of the Good

Wow. Is it just that others realized there's gold in them thar rubes? There are so many Hate Radio jocks now I can't even keep them straight. Just from that list of the top 5 or so they're accounting for about 40 million of our Neanderthal neighbors.

No, you're looking at it wrong. Don't add all their numbers together, it's largely the same core audience going between shows because they don't air at the same times. I know Rush is back-to-back with Hannity, so it's not a combined 25 million there, it's going to be more like 15 million, assuming some tune-ins and tune-outs during the course of the day.

Rush lost a lot of people when some big-city markets started dropping him for making controversial broadcasts (surprised me as that's his bread and butter), and lost some others with his drug abuse issues some 10 years ago. Then he lost more for failing to go after W with any sort of tenacity that he went after Clinton when they were holding the same policies that he derided so hard in the 90s. It became clear that he was more of a party man and less a paragon of conservative masses.
 
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A bit more shrill, but Savage and Levine are true to their beliefs. They hate everybody who is not conservative. Bush, Clinton, McConnell, Pelosi, Reid, McCain, Boehner, you name 'em, we hate 'em!
 
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A bit more shrill, but Savage and Levine are true to their beliefs. They hate everybody who is not conservative. Bush, Clinton, McConnell, Pelosi, Reid, McCain, Boehner, you name 'em, we hate 'em!

Who is conservative? Idi Amin?
 
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