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Business, Economics, and Taxes: Eat Cereal for Dinner

We didn't take Home Ec (living skills) in HS we took it in middle school. In HS it was an elective and I should have taken it. Now? I am not sure when they take Family and Consumer Science...

As for Gen Z's morals...it kind of depends. For the most part they are socially liberal but again their knowledge base is so shallow it is maleable. They are easily manipulated (as most youth are) but like Kep said they are rather closed off shut ins so they are even easier to brain phuck. Plus, and this is more of a blame on their parents/environment, they all have anxiety problems and no skills to cope or regulate it. (COVID exasperated this) Think how much energy and nervousness you had in your teens...now add generalized anxiety, lack of social cues and the fear that comes with being educationally stunted on top of it...

The amount of just untethered screaming, crying, walking out and fighting these days (it's been a decades long backslide) even in suburban schools is untenable. Part of it is lack of ability to punish (that blame rests with Administrators) but part of it is these students have no ability to live and act in the real world. It's scary.

Don't get me wrong, when I complain about Gen Z and Gen Algorithm, I don't blame them. We phucking failed them.
 
but part of it is these students have no ability to live and act in the real world. It's scary.
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​​​​Cause they've never had to. Coddled and protected since birth.

Get a bad grade, not their fault, it's the teacher's. So mommy and daddy have to berate the teacher cause certainly their little flower is nothing less than perfect.

Don't get a job? System's rigged against them. Not their fault.
 
Kepler said:
From what I have read this is actually a thing. The Trad Way is real.

In 1977 (JFC) I took Home Ec in rotation with Typing and Metal Shop. To give you an idea of how seriously we took it, we gradually dismantled our sewing machine and threw it bit by bit out the second story window over a period of weeks.

Learned to type, though.

I regret not taking shorthand; my god that would have been helpful.
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A friend of mine with a high schooler here in the twin cities told me last week that her child was forced to take home the very expensive doll baby and take care of it, overnight feedings, etc and I thought that was great. Show them how miserable it is rather than telling them it’s their future

But that’s the difference between a red state and a blue state
 
rufus said:
Get a bad grade, not their fault, it's the teacher's. So mommy and daddy have to berate the teacher cause certainly their little flower is nothing less than perfect.
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My wife has stories from her student teaching days.

Parent of the Year: "So, why is Timmy failing?"
Wife: "He's not doing his homework, ma'am."
PotY: "So how does Timmy improve?"
Wife: "Well, you see, the nature of the word 'home-work' implies that it is work to be completed at home. So if he's not doing his work, it seems to me that it's your responsibility to correct him and ensure he does it."

That response got her a talking to. My wife ended up deciding not to become a teacher. I can't imagine why. :rolleyes:
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
A friend of mine with a high schooler here in the twin cities told me last week that her child was forced to take home the very expensive doll baby and take care of it, overnight feedings, etc and I thought that was great. Show them how miserable it is rather than telling them it’s their future

But that’s the difference between a red state and a blue state
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My god, that is great. Talk about a way to teach the consequences of "oops".
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
My wife has stories from her student teaching days.

Parent of the Year: "So, why is Timmy failing?"
Wife: "He's not doing his homework, ma'am."
PotY: "So how does Timmy improve?"
Wife: "Well, you see, the nature of the word 'home-work' implies that it is work to be completed at home. So if he's not doing his work, it seems to me that it's your responsibility to correct him and ensure he does it."

That response got her a talking to. My wife ended up deciding not to become a teacher. I can't imagine why. :rolleyes:
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Yeah...that is a perfect example of what I see and am saying.

When I was a student and had that same conversation my dad forced me to get a signed note from the teacher every day about what work was due and assigned.
 
I was a goody two shoes. My motivation problems didn't come until college and adulthood, trying to study subjects and do jobs I hated just because they paid well. :p
 
Having 2 kids on college and having met 100's of other kids their age I don't think some you have a clue what prior their age are like. They're more savvy and curious than you might realize.
 
Kepler said:
Closely followed by complaining about their work ethic, attention span, and seriousness.

One interesting thing, though. The other thing is complaining about their morals, and I don't think anybody complains about Gen Z morals. If anything they seem like terrified prudish shut ins. Boomers were the whore generation (thank you, ladies!!!) and America hasn't gotten over that yet.
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My experience with the elder end of Gen Z is that most people of that age know how to use apps on their phones much better than average, but ask them to do basic things on a laptop PC, and it’s like teaching the average people of your age to remember the password to their email account. It’s a miserable failure, more of them than not.
 
St. Clown said:
My experience with the elder end of Gen Z is that most people of that age know how to use apps on their phones much better than average, but ask them to do basic things on a laptop PC, and it’s like teaching the average people of your age to remember the password to their email account. It’s a miserable failure, more of them than not.
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Because they never had to grow up learning how to use a PC. They grew up on iPads and iPhones.

Gen X and Elder Millenials grew up learning how to program VCRs because the Boomers couldn't figure out how to make them stop flashing 12:00. They grew up troubleshooting why the printer doesn't work. They grew up tinkering with PC components. Apps were .exe installer programs that unpacked the files into a folder. If something was broken, go edit the .ini file.

Zoomers and Gen A grew up knowing that the DVR gets its info from the WiFi; that the printer just "works" magically when they click it. They didn't have to learn how to <div> <span> <header> in HTML to make a website. They're the "WYSIWYG" generations. Apps are one click and just work.
 
Slap Shot said:
Having 2 kids on college and having met 100's of other kids their age I don't think some you have a clue what prior their age are like. They're more savvy and curious than you might realize.
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Yeah, I’ve met plenty through working with them and savvy and curious are not two words I would use.
 
psych said:
No offense sir, but if you graduated college 35 years ago, my guess is you graduated high school closer to 40 years ago. :)
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Ouch!! That one kinda stung a bit! :0) Yeah… 40yr reunion this year.
Aging sucks!

Funny story (IMHO)… Home Ec in High School didn’t do a thing for me. Living off-campus in College is where I honed cooking skills. Why?… my roommate was an awesome cook, and he had a parade of beautiful lady-friends (models, seriously!!) drop-by the apartment that he would have over for dinner. Meals he cooked. I thought to myself - “Damn… I really need to learn how to cook!!”

He was also the product of a rather wealthy upbringing, growing-up on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. So little did I know, it wasn’t so much his great cooking skills that lead to this parade of absolutely gorgeous women.

No beautiful women lining-up at my door, but I learned to become a good cook anyway. Ultimately landed the one beautiful woman that would tolerate me. I think she sticks-around because of those cooking skills.

So Home Ec certainly has some value, but it’s the finance courses… errr, money… that seems to have the most value (if you’re looking for a parade of beautiful women, at least!)
 
rufus said:
​​​​Cause they've never had to. Coddled and protected since birth.

Get a bad grade, not their fault, it's the teacher's. So mommy and daddy have to berate the teacher cause certainly their little flower is nothing less than perfect.

Don't get a job? System's rigged against them. Not their fault.
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Like rich kids in almost* all ages.

* Offer not available during Tom Brown's school days.
 
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