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Brown - Oops! They did it again.

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I wouldn't say this years team is 'awesome', but although inconsistent there has been marked improvement - 7-12-1. When a new coach like Whittet comes in like on the men's side it does seem to rejuvinate everyone in and around the program. He'll nail a good recruit or two the first year and we'll seem some strides - but in the long run there are major issues with things in the administration (and things like the AI and FA) that will remain a challenge for any coach at Brown unless they get a bigger commitment to the program - same for the men as the women.

I support the Brown programs and whoever is coaching. You hope the administration is doing their due diligence in reviewing the programs every year, but I don't have a son or daughter playing there like a lot of the posters here so I can see where the frustration level and sense of urgency is turned up. In the end, I think it is more about the players than the coaches. You get a Yann Danis in and Grillo is a genius who graduates a senior class with more wins over 4 years than any previous four year class at Brown. When he doesn't his break out sucks and no one can stand their 'endless cycling' in the offensive zone. Digit gets a Katie King and Tara Mounsey and she's off the Nationals and one of the winningest coaches in women's hockey! Now she's not getting them and she's forgotten how to coach, has a rotten personality, and cuts players with malice.


My pee-wee team is only .500 this year, rumors are i'm probably going to get replaced by the town dentist who was captain of his high school team! Ouch.

I'm not trying to completely ignore the fact that there are FA issues that go beyond any quick fix at Brown. Or, that the program needs a greater commitment towards supporting athletics. Or, that the first person people tend to point a finger at for a losing season is the coaches.

But when it has been publicly known that a coach applied for another job for two consecutive years and has let the program fall so far as to not having a single league win this far into the season, I find it hard not to point my finger at Digit. What’s stopping another job opening from coming up that will leave her players and brown supporters disappointed yet again? It’s one thing for people to have to deal with a coach who wants to be there. But it’s another to have to deal with a coach who doesn’t even want to be at Brown. Has Digit actually gone out and made this statement? No, but actions speak louder than words and I don’t know what else going out and applying to other jobs says. The team already has to deal with a lack of commitment from the school, they don't need to be subjected to a lack of commitment from their own coaches as well.
 
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As one of the two individuals that have been transparent in identifying themselves as a parent, I take umbrage with this statement. Please take a moment and reread my posts. I think you will find them fair, balanced and worthy of consideration.

Brown plays Harvard today at 7pm and it will be webcast if you can't make the game. I hope that many of you posting on this thread will catch the game, cheer on both teams and make observations about the game rather than perceived personality traits of their parents and friends.

My apologies, Brown Parent. I forgot to qualify that statement correctly and it definitely does not apply to all parents of players on the team. And yes, I have noticed that you have done a good job of making your concerns and misgivings known without making statements damaging to the program your daughter plays in.

You have elected to participate in a difficult thread knowing very well that you may have to deal with the people who may or may not have the same outlook as you on the situation. For that, I give you credit as well.

Hoping for a well-played game tonight, regardless of the outcome.
 
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My point about not knowing who writes recommendations is that there is no conspiracy here to find out who supports the coach and who doesn't.

I know that. My point was to answer who ever asked what good could come from this thread? And my answer was that it might convince someone who would of written an empty recommendation not to. If you support Digit, go right ahead and write one. But if you’re writing one only because you were asked to by someone, than don’t. If you’re against her, than those people can go ahead and write a complaint letter too. But the same applies, if someone’s asking you to trash a coach that you actually don’t mind, than don’t.

So this thread might just influence who decides to write whatever to whomever. Both sides are being presented so it seem's like a pretty good place to go if you want to get an understanding of what's going on at brown.
 
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I know that. My point was to answer who ever asked what good could come from this thread? And my answer was that it might convince someone who would of written an empty recommendation not to. If you support Digit, go right ahead and write one. But if you’re writing one only because you were asked to by someone, than don’t. If you’re against her, than those people can go ahead and write a complaint letter too. But the same applies, if someone’s asking you to trash a coach that you actually don’t mind, than don’t.

So this thread might just influence who decides to write whatever to whomever. Both sides are being presented so it seem's like a pretty good place to go if you want to get an understanding of what's going on at brown.

So maybe we should open (and close) another thread with one post:

"If you don't support Digit Murphy as Brown's head coach, write a letter to the AD. If you're a financial supporter of Brown and don't think Digit should be in her position, stop sending money and let the AD know why you are doing this. If you support Digit, feel free to let the AD know".

(and please check your sentences and understand when to use "than" and "then", "of" and "have")
 
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After the second period at Harvard

I realize this has been a difficult season for Brown but tonight your team has a lot to be proud about! If this is how they're capable of playing, the question becomes whether they can sustain it going forward
 
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(and please check your sentences and understand when to use "than" and "then", "of" and "have")

Ahhh, there it is... the value of an Ivy League education made clear -- "I know better then you should of" -- no variation in the ranks, no changes allowed for the new, and our knowing which fork to use forever ensures we are correct in all matters (even when we wear red and green, whale-patterned cords) -- the grammarati have spoken. This kind of chiding is usually reserved for the alumni magazine letters to the editor:
"Re: Your 'Re: Errata Redux'" doncha think? :rolleyes:
 
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Re: Brown - Oops! They did it again.

Ahhh, there it is... the value of an Ivy League education made clear -- "I know better then you should of" -- no variation in the ranks, no changes allowed for the new, and our knowing which fork to use forever ensures we are correct in all matters (even when we wear red and green, whale-patterned cords) -- the grammarati have spoken. This kind of chiding is usually reserved for the alumni magazine letters to the editor:
"Re: Your 'Re: Errata Redux'" doncha think? :rolleyes:

Wow ....Phil, your pretty good. Ya really kicked em good. But wasn't that Redux guy trying to make it with Edmonton? Good job!
 
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(and please check your sentences and understand when to use "than" and "then", "of" and "have")

Sorry, you all have my most sincere apology for my highly uneducated posts. Could you please, if even possible, just try to get past the anguish that my terrible grammar causes you and at least attempt to decipher what it is I’m trying to say? I know misusing “than” and “then” is a mistake no educated person would dare make, which that alone invalidates any of the points I’ve made. But please try to hang in there.
 
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At least one freshman didn't dress on the trip to Harvard. Will that influence the tone of the thread? :rolleyes:

From what I have seen, the only freshman who doesn't show up in the collegehockeystats scoresheet is Griffin, who hasn't been on the sheet for about 10 games or so, I assume she's hurt or no longer with the team.

All of the other freshmen but one show up in the stats ... +/- , penalties, goal scored, etc.

Possible that player didn't dress but showed up on the scoresheet?
 
Re: Brown - Oops! They did it again.

From what I have seen, the only freshman who doesn't show up in the collegehockeystats scoresheet is Griffin, who hasn't been on the sheet for about 10 games or so, I assume she's hurt or no longer with the team.

All of the other freshmen but one show up in the stats ... +/- , penalties, goal scored, etc.

Possible that player didn't dress but showed up on the scoresheet?

That player dresses, she just isn't given much ice time. Brown dresses everyone this year unless someone's out with an injury.
 
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Sorry, you all have my most sincere apology for my highly uneducated posts. Could you please, if even possible, just try to get past the anguish that my terrible grammar causes you and at least attempt to decipher what it is I’m trying to say? I know misusing “than” and “then” is a mistake no educated person would dare make, which that alone invalidates any of the points I’ve made. But please try to hang in there.

You shouldn't really care what they think. Make your point and move on. They get it, they're just looking for a way out. Most wannabe intellects are insecure. It's a fact.

Any of you intellects want to challenge me?

5-4, you get this I hope. Now.... move in....
 
Re: Brown - Oops! They did it again.

You shouldn't really care what they think. Make your point and move on. They get it, they're just looking for a way out. Most wannabe intellects are insecure. It's a fact.

Any of you intellects want to challenge me?

5-4, you get this I hope. Now.... move in....

Ya even hitting spell chick doesn't help with then & than. I'm gonna have to figure something else out....is there such a thing as grammar chick?
 
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Batten down the hatches....

Good job by the team tonight. They kept Harvard on their toes for the majority of the game by putting in a great effort.

Alright, so Brown’s going into this game without a league win. They’re playing Harvard good and shutting down the offense for the most part playing solid d. They were even in Harvard’s zone for a fair amount of time. Why keep assisting that your forwards dump and chase. They don’t have anything to loose against a team as good as Harvard. They ether might cause a couple turnovers that lead to scoring opportunities, but they have a goalie in net that’s talented enough to take that chance. A tie or a win would say much more for the team than a 3-1 loss compared to a 5-1 loss. They’re not playing with hopes of making playoffs. They’re playing in hopes of getting their first win. Digit has embedded in the minds of the offense the necessity to dump and chase or when you get the puck in the offensive zone shoot it on net. It’s not that she doesn’t teach offensive creativity to her players, she actually is strongly against it.

And I know people are going to criticize me for going against the concept of once you’re in the offensive zone shoot it on net. But the only passes made in the offensive zone all game were from the forwards to the points. Nothing wrong with that, but you have to allow some creativity down low so they can get some better scoring chances. They’re so pressured to shoot the puck once they cross the blue line that the forwards don’t even look for another play developing or pay any attention to a forward who’s trailing behind them for support. Digit doesn’t teach enough situational play in the offensive zone. And it’s making her players throwaway opportunities that would create a better chance to score.
 
Re: Brown - Oops! They did it again.

Good job by the team tonight. They kept Harvard on their toes for the majority of the game by putting in a great effort.

Alright, so Brown’s going into this game without a league win. They’re playing Harvard good and shutting down the offense for the most part playing solid d. They were even in Harvard’s zone for a fair amount of time. Why keep assisting that your forwards dump and chase. They don’t have anything to loose against a team as good as Harvard. They ether might cause a couple turnovers that lead to scoring opportunities, but they have a goalie in net that’s talented enough to take that chance. A tie or a win would say much more for the team than a 3-1 loss compared to a 5-1 loss. They’re not playing with hopes of making playoffs. They’re playing in hopes of getting their first win. Digit has embedded in the minds of the offense the necessity to dump and chase or when you get the puck in the offensive zone shoot it on net. It’s not that she doesn’t teach offensive creativity to her players, she actually is strongly against it.

And I know people are going to criticize me for going against the concept of once you’re in the offensive zone shoot it on net. But the only passes made in the offensive zone all game were from the forwards to the points. Nothing wrong with that, but you have to allow some creativity down low so they can get some better scoring chances. They’re so pressured to shoot the puck once they cross the blue line that the forwards don’t even look for another play developing or pay any attention to a forward who’s trailing behind them for support. Digit doesn’t teach enough situational play in the offensive zone. And it’s making her players throwaway opportunities that would create a better chance to score.
This is actually some of the best constructive criticism ever posted on this thread. I didn't see the game, and so I have no comment as to whether I agree or not, but I find comments like this to be far more reasonable and worthy of reading as opposed to the whining and crying of people simply screaming for Digit's head.
 
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