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Brown - Oops! They did it again.

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notfromaroundhere,
you again ask for a coaching critique. if mine was insufficient, then I apologize. still, you may want to be a little bit careful going forward on the present staff's capabilities. other coaches accepting the offer to view the team on Webcast are bound to come up with similiar conclusions. it's that obvious.
 
Re: Brown - Oops! They did it again.

notfromaroundhere,
you again ask for a coaching critique. if mine was insufficient, then I apologize. still, you may want to be a little bit careful going forward on the present staff's capabilities. other coaches accepting the offer to view the team on Webcast are bound to come up with similiar conclusions. it's that obvious.

Missed your earlier post, Pops.

I'm actually glad to see someone voice an opinion on game strategy and team preparation. That is exactly what I wanted to see out of the folks who started this whole discussion. If they had said such stuff up front, although it still isn't kosher to do it as a parent of a player, I probably wouldn't have gotten so far into this discussion.

Strangely enough, I actually am not here to debate the specifics of how Digit coaches, but to defend Digit (or any other coach's for that matter) from disgruntled parents (who still haven't participated in your level of analysis BTW) who seek to bring down their daughter's coaches.

I have said here repeatedly, I have no relationship to Brown or Digit, but my relationship is to a sense of decency that all coaches deserve with regards to the behavior of their players families. If the Brown fans (as opposed to parents) out here agree that she really doesn't have the stuff to take the program forward, that's OK.
 
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It’s nearly impossible to win an argument when you’re arguing with a bunch of hypocrites.

1. Don’t sling mud, although you guys are the only ones who have done so.
2. Wins and losses can’t be the only reason to judge a coaches success, but it’s valid enough to discredit any progress made on the men’s side.
3. No player should feel entitled. If you don’t do your job then your cut or fired, but again we’re not allowed to apply that to the coaches.
4. No one knows how big Digit’s or Sean’s paycheck is, but it’s small enough to be a reason that Brown can’t keep coaches, but large enough to keep Digit and Sean around.
5. Don’t assume things. Logical reasoning can’t be made about Digit’s desire to win or the decisions she’s made unless we have facts. But when it comes to the players, it takes only one person to make stuff up to justify their own actions. If it wrongly portrays the character or ability of individuals you lack any remorse when repeating it.
6. A low level of endowments prevents Brown from being good. Although Cornell has a much lower level of funds with a much larger student body, they are becoming more and more competitive every year. And Yale with one of the largest endowments seems to be at the bottom of the Ivy League standings along with Brown.
7. Recruiting in the Ivy League is much different than other d-1 schools. Grades, community service, talent all have to be considered. But this only displays how good of a coach Digit must be, and nothing about the quality of the kids on her team.
8. Basically, since Browns in the Ivy League it has to accept that being competitive in sports will never happen. Because amongst the school’s mission for excellence they simply don’t apply that to team sports. But if they keep Digit around, they’ll be successful again.
9. A new coach would only increase turnovers, but turnovers aren’t actually a bad thing as long as Digit’s the coach.
10. You can post quotes that Digit has said to support your argument. When I do the same, I’m somehow manipulating what she said and am just twisting her words around somehow.
11. People that you claim to be insiders have no right publicly posting about this subject because somehow the idea of people having an actual idea about what’s happening is absurd. Obviously we’re all just taking advantage of being able to blow off steam from our kids getting cut or short shifted, or even ex-players trying to get revenge on the coach. But you all know the situation better than any of us without actually seeing it, so there’s no way we could just want the best for the program. That’s clearly what you guys want.
12. We’re selfish and are only thinking about one person, our kid. But it’s fine that all of you couldn’t care less about any of the player’s and are only concerned about Digit.
13. When the coaches are in question, it’s the team lacks talent. But when recruiting becomes the question, the coaches aren’t responsible for that either.
14. Cookies always being called out for not making sure her sources are correct, but who needs to check their sources when defending Digit. What one person says has to be true so it’s all right to make judgments of the situation.
15. People are cowards for being anonymous. But people who anonymously call people cowards are not.
16. It’s okay for a coach to use student’s grades to their advantage by recruiting them as AI kids to get someone else in. But it’s not okay for a student athlete to take advantage of their own grades and hard work by using them to get into a good school.
17. Recruiting is nearly impossible at Brown because of all of the different aspects that are considered in the process. But then if a new coach comes in, he’s bringing a bus load of recruits somehow so current players better be ready to get packing.

I think that summarizes almost all of the pro-Digit posts.

Congrats, Hcky85, you have described in a picture-perfect nutshell exactly what has happened on this thread since it began. In fact, the obstinance of the PC crowd - that is the "pro-coach" crowd - who refuse to acknowledge that there is a second side to their storied coach that has fractured the team, that has kept this thread going. There are reasons beyond lack of motivation, big egos, entitlement, poor performance, etc. that led to the expulsion of certain members of the Brown team. Even in a best case scenario, all of those kids can't be wrong. I applaud you for taking the time to spell this out for those who refuse to grasp the concept.
 
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There are many factors that go into a decision on what school to attend. She liked the coaches at Brown fine. She chose another school that she preferred for the school itself. Though quite honestly if she had decided she wanted to go to Brown instead, the financial aid situation there would still likely have ruled it out anyway.

Another lame excuse. You've already lambasted any student at Brown for choosing the school for the school itself. You couldn't grasp this concept when we were discussing why someone would ever choose Brown if they didn't like Digit's personality. That noones been complaining about. Is her personality at times obnoxious, I think most would have to say yea. But that has never fallen under my list of reasons as to why Digit is detrimental to the program.
 
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Congrats, Hcky85, you have described in a picture-perfect nutshell exactly what has happened on this thread since it began. In fact, the obstinance of the PC crowd - that is the "pro-coach" crowd - who refuse to acknowledge that there is a second side to their storied coach that has fractured the team, that has kept this thread going. There are reasons beyond lack of motivation, big egos, entitlement, poor performance, etc. that led to the expulsion of certain members of the Brown team. Even in a best case scenario, all of those kids can't be wrong. I applaud you for taking the time to spell this out for those who refuse to grasp the concept.

So, Ms Insider, care to share your "inside information" about why these certain players were expelled? Or are you just wanting to add to the drama and all the attention that it brings you? You just love stirring the pot with innuendos but no facts, don't you?

And we're still waiting to find out which of us is Digit?
 
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Exactly why I am here. hcky85, from your stated age, I know that you are not a parent of a Brown player (and I'm hoping not a current player), and quite frankly if you want to say "fire the coach" for whatever reasons you want, go ahead. I probably shouldn't have started taking apart your arguments, as I really have no affiliation with Brown or Digit.

I just have a problem with insiders such as the parent of a player (ccookie79) who seek to destroy a coach before their kid even takes the ice for the first game of their freshman year. To me, that is wrong and undefensable! And for that matter any parent of a player who seeks to undermine their daughter's coach is doing wrong by both the coach and their daughter.

THAT IS WHY I AM HERE!

Let me see how many defenders of cccookie's actions there are out there!!!

Stand up and be counted.

Go back and read my original post. It was a question about tryouts. I did NOT start any thread about firing the coach. What I did post about is my support - my continuing support - for the members of the team, including those members who are no longer playing. Their dismissals appear to have been done with malice, rather than because of any of them having an inflated ego, a sense of entitlement or showing poor athletic performance and motivation, etc. One of the reasons my D selected Brown is because of the teammates she would be playing with. Since their absence is reflected in the standings, then I say, my alleged "attack" is fair game.
 
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I ..........am Spartacus!

I ..........am Stupified!

That I open this thread from time to time, when I know it will just be more pointless "he said, she said" ramblings, but I had an epiphany. It's like when you accidentally bite the inside of your cheek and it becomes a canker sore, you just can't help prodding it with your tongue every once in a while just to make sure it still hurts.
 
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Go back and read my original post. It was a question about tryouts. I did NOT start any thread about firing the coach. What I did post about is my support - my continuing support - for the members of the team, including those members who are no longer playing. Their dismissals appear to have been done with malice, rather than because of any of them having an inflated ego, a sense of entitlement or showing poor athletic performance and motivation, etc. One of the reasons my D selected Brown is because Digit sold her a bill of goods about who she would be playing with and many of those girls were not there when we arrived. Since their absence is reflected in the standings, then I say, my "attack" is fair game.

Yes, it was a question about tryouts which you are using to call for Digit's head on a platter. It wasn't an innocent question as evidenced by your accusations that players are dismissed with malice which suggests that she put on "rigged" tryouts.

Let's face it. You are upset because you wanted your daughter to play with girls who are no longer on the team. If that is reason enough to call for a coach's head, then you truly are petty.

And grow up. Digit talks about her players early in the season (when you get the recruiting talk) until they do something or change their play to make them no longer wanted on the roster (could very well have happened as the season progressed). You don't seem to accept that stuff happens - and probably stuff you don't even know about, as you don't seem to have spelled out why Digit dismissed these players, only insinuate sinnister motivation.

And I'm still waiting to hear which one of us is Digit?
 
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You see this is called Digit Power ! :)
Maybe you'll catch the fever someday. :D :D

Seriously, many good points have been brought to the table. Long story short, if no one from the inside had brought up the "fire the coach" item, this discussion would have died a long time ago. And for god sakes let's not start another similar thread about another school or schools (Re:6)

There hasn't been one good point that demonstrates why Digit shouldn't get fired.

And what now, is rankings another controversial determinant to show a teams’ standing in the League.
 
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So, Ms Insider, care to share your "inside information" about why these certain players were expelled? Or are you just wanting to add to the drama and all the attention that it brings you? You just love stirring the pot with innuendos but no facts, don't you?

And we're still waiting to find out which of us is Digit?

It's a little late to ask for answers, don't ya think. It seems like you've got them all - however inaccurate they may be.
 
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Yes, it was a question about tryouts which you are using to call for Digit's head on a platter. It wasn't an innocent question as evidenced by your accusations that players are dismissed with malice which suggests that she put on "rigged" tryouts.

Let's face it. You are upset because you wanted your daughter to play with girls who are no longer on the team. If that is reason enough to call for a coach's head, then you truly are petty.

And grow up. Digit talks about her players early in the season (when you get the recruiting talk) until they do something or change their play to make them no longer wanted on the roster (could very well have happened as the season progressed). You don't seem to accept that stuff happens - and probably stuff you don't even know about, as you don't seem to have spelled out why Digit dismissed these players, only insinuate sinnister motivation.

And I'm still waiting to hear which one of us is Digit?

Okay, notfromblahblahblah, your entire third paragraph is general in nature. "until they do something or change their play to make them no longer wanted on the roster" or stuff happens - and probably stuff you don't even know about". Let's flip this around. Why don't you tell me the stuff that happened that I "probably" don't know about. While you're at it, tell me which players changed their play - and how they changed. I've read nothing here from the pro-coach brigade that is based in fact. Ego? Motivation? Entitlement? Slacking off? Disinterest? You've thrown the ideas out them but none have been articulated.
One thing I do know for sure - what I know - Digit also knows.
 
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It's a little late to ask for answers, don't ya think. It seems like you've got them all - however inaccurate they may be.

If it is a little late to ask for answers, why the heck do you keep on going here?

It is never too late for the truth, if you actually have any to share. So far all you've contributed are insinuations and speculation.

I haven't given answers, only alternative explanations to the speculation that you cannot back up with facts regarding the motives of the coach.

Oh, and I do object to your doing so, regardless of what coach you are talking about.

I'm still waiting... Which one of us is Digit?
 
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Digit Power...I love it.... must have been why "Brown" won the U.S. Senate seat!!!! :D

Digit for President!
(but not for another 30 years so she can keep up the good work in her current role!)

Maybe she should with you guys as her campaign team. You already nailed the whole cheesy propaganda ploy.

And if you spent as much time helping someone in your community as you did authoring that epic post, the world would be a far better place.

Sorry, no personal offense meant, sincerely.......but the volume of effort and energy to tear down the pro-Brown side is just absolutely killing me.

I just wish more people in the world valued the bigger picture. I just don't get it. I spent my evening doing my part in my community. I hope you all are doing the same.

And if you took a little time away from judging other people and set it aside to looking at yourself, maybe you'd realize you're criticizing how much time someone's wasted who's only made 29 posts when you’ve made 570 on this forum. Please save your resolute humanitarian efforts for a more fitting discussion.
 
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I just have a problem with insiders such as the parent of a player (ccookie79) who seek to destroy a coach before their kid even takes the ice for the first game of their freshman year. To me, that is wrong and undefensable! And for that matter any parent of a player who seeks to undermine their daughter's coach is doing wrong by both the coach and their daughter.

THAT IS WHY I AM HERE!

Let me see how many defenders of cccookie's actions there are out there!!!

Stand up and be counted.

Stop saying stuff like this. Again one person said they have a kid on the team, so give this response to their posts not mine. I've only defended cookie one time and that was my first post. 30 posts later the only reason the name got dropped was to show how hypocrital people have been, not to gain support for cookie.
 
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