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Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

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Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Well, as long as they begged their daughter to press charges they did all they could do. That is where any responsible parent would leave it so I have no doubt the poster is indeed a BU parent with a real daughter.

Good use of caps though, I mean if somebody did that to one of my daughters I can assure you I'd express myself through the use of multiple caps, maybe even a whole phrase or sentence worth. Only then would I feel like I helped out and prevented something worse from happening to another student...

everyone is different. if this is true - some people would get in the car and go looking for max. some would order their daughter home. the rest would fall somewhere in the middle. (i was tempted to use all caps for "if", but decided not to :D )
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Uhmm, if you go back about 3 pages, you will see where people suggested that the RA was not obligated to open her door when Cory came knocking, thus somehow minimizing the charges. I'm hardly trolling.

What part of 'more to the story' isn't seeping in your brain? Especially when I clarified that it had to do with the breaking and entering charge against CorEy. At no point did I, or anyone, ever say that the victims were "asking for it".
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

What part of 'more to the story' isn't seeping in your brain? Especially when I clarified that it had to do with the breaking and entering charge against CorEy. At no point did I, or anyone, ever say that the victims were "asking for it".

Fair enough
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

everyone is different. if this is true - some people would get in the car and go looking for max. some would order their daughter home. the rest would fall somewhere in the middle. (i was tempted to use all caps for "if", but decided not to :D )

I would seriously be concerned about a parent who sat on such information that his/her daughter reported to her and did nothing about it except to comment on a sports blog.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

What part of 'more to the story' isn't seeping in your brain? Especially when I clarified that it had to do with the breaking and entering charge against CorEy.

In light of the report that stated she was mistaken about her RA duties and opening the door, did the breaking and entering charge get dropped? If she opened the door and he barged in uninvited to sexually assault her, is that a lesser charge because she opened the door?

Very important stuff here.

"She opened the door so she asked for it" or "she didn't know the rules when filing her report so now she is a liar (even though she believed she knew the rules) and has no credibility now so Trivino is a cool guy"? Having trouble figuring out which one you're saying but it's clearly one of these two things.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

I would seriously be concerned about a parent who sat on such information that his/her daughter reported to her and did nothing about it except to comment on a sports blog.

people are generally non-confrontational *******. innertubes allow the inner-toughie to come out. just a fact. not saying it's wrong or right. just is.

and it's up to the girl to have anything done about it. the parent could call the cops, brown, anyone... but without her saying it was done there is not much that can be done.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Sorry, it just drives me crazy to see BU fans continue to try and minimize these situations.

Quotes please...? Without taking anything out of context, when did several BU fans try to minimize this situation?

I know a few pages back someone commented that these were just good boys in tough situations or something, but he was instantly pounced on for saying something stupid because he did.

One of the most minimizing comments I can find is TimP commenting on how the players can't score off the ice, as if this were something we should all be laughing about... But that wouldn't be a BU fan minimizing the situation, would it?
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

simple math


It is "simple math" if 2 of the 5 incidents of reported sexual assaults involve students who happen to play hockey for the university. I don't like the idea of having BU not accept a bid to the NCAA tournament because it would punish the players who are responsible human beings; innocent until proven guilty. Collective punishment is nothing more than communism.

Here's a simple math solution: Send the #7 to heaven.

Sound's crazy, I know. The #7 should be unceremoniously retired and should be used as an example to all current and future players that this kind of behavior is unacceptable behavior for any person in society.

Don't hang it from the rafters of course. The BU Hockey public relations folks don't even need to let the public know that they retired the #7. We will all know that the number has been retired when we don't see any more #7's skating for BU.

Simple math.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Are there really people arguing about which of the BC/BU programs has a worse criminal record?
I didn't read enough to figure out who started that but let's just put an end to it now... This isn't about a hockey rivalry.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

It is "simple math" if 2 of the 5 incidents of reported sexual assaults involve students who happen to play hockey for the university. I don't like the idea of having BU not accept a bid to the NCAA tournament because it would punish the players who are responsible human beings; innocent until proven guilty. Collective punishment is nothing more than communism.

Here's a simple math solution: Send the #7 to heaven.

Sound's crazy, I know. The #7 should be unceremoniously retired and should be used as an example to all current and future players that this kind of behavior is unacceptable behavior for any person in society.

Don't hang it from the rafters of course. The BU Hockey public relations folks don't even need to let the public know that they retired the #7. We will all know that the number has been retired when we don't see any more #7's skating for BU.

Simple math.

Wait, are you implying that someone should send Max Nicastro to heaven, or retire the number? So anyone wearing #7 is automatically a rapist? Would that also mean that anyone who is a defensive coordinator at Penn State is also a child molester?
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Wait, are you implying that someone should send Max Nicastro to heaven, or retire the number? So anyone wearing #7 is automatically a rapist? Would that also mean that anyone who is a defensive coordinator at Penn State is also a child molester?

You're not very bright.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

I know you like to hang out here, but look over at the BC thread where "rapist" is being handed out quite a bit.

I certainly do. First of all, I think you guys just have more posters (do all of you wear jersies to games too?). Secondly, your team seems to have more drama every year than any other team in Hockey East. It makes for good conversation. Fair enough, you found two people who used the word rapist prematurely in this case. Not something I would do, but still, it's not an overwhelming number.

According to the Herald, Nicastro will be arraigned Tuesday morning on a single charge of rape.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20220220bu_hockey_player_faces_rape_rap/srvc=home&position=5

****...

Does anyone know when a non-hockey BU athlete was last arrested? I can't recall. I'm not looking for names, just an approximate date.

Change BU to BC and Rover would be able to tell you by looking in his scrap book.

A few more arrests for drugs and weapons posession and we'll be the BC hoops team. Yikes.

Look I don't blame Parker for either incident but its beyond obvious that these kids have no respect for him, the team, or the school. Bob Brown needs to call everyone into his office today from the AD to the coach to the assistants and ask what changes they plan on implementing. If they don't have a good answer they're all fired. I don't care if Parker himself has to roam the halls of the dorm to keep an eye on things. The team either gets control of these kids now or they bring in someone who can.

Right on cue! I don't blame Parker either, but if this happened at BC you'd absolutely be blaming the coach/administration. Keep up the good work.

When was a BU player charged with murder? You have weapons, harboring fugitives, counterfeiting even, steroids, gambling, you name it. We've got aways to go to match BC.

Poor Rover...you'll be referencing stuff like the gambling scandal until you die. Sad, really.

I think we can all agree to leave BC out of this. Sorry.

You would think...

Here's an interesting piece on BU in the wake of the second arrest? It's asking the question if BU has become so blinded by success and riches that they've lost their way as a down-home style organization. Or is this just a program with a bad group of guys.

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice...

http://excalibursportspage.com/2012/02/20/has-bu-hockey-lost-its-way/

What success? One national championship sandwiched between years of mediocrity? Perhaps they all think they're more successful than the facts would say.

I would like to know what the school, athletic department and team do as a matter of course to help young men understand the 'rules' and what they did following the Trivino arrest to reinforce the message.

But, if we're counting on the only reason a kid chooses not to commit this crime is because the coach told him it was wrong then we are in a world of trouble.

That's the thing. These players shouldn't have to be told that it's not ok to do what Trivino/Nicastro did. There are team rules and there are common sense rules.

There have been plenty of seasons between then and now without these issues so your generalization is a stretch.

This applies to one of your own...

You guys are just plain trolling which would be fine if you would just admit it. The true CHRIS!!! of old has come out of hibernation. Funny it is just several BC fans that are going nuts in here. Glad to know you guys have so much concern for BU and its fans. :rolleyes: It takes a lot for KnowItAll to stick up for BU fans.

You guys? Not every BC who has posted on this is a troll. If something like this happened to BC, the BC thread would have tons of BU fans in it as well as other Hockey East fans.

What was it that happened with O'Hanley and Motherwell?

Nobody knows for sure, not even KnowItAll. I was really hoping to respond to his mindless drivel and baseless accusations but I can see they were rightfully deleted. He was channeling his inner Hokydad.

BU Posters suggesting that "these girls were asking for it by opening their doors?" Huh? This clown has most definitely "jumped the shark." He is trolling and you should not be taking the bait and responding.

I'll clarify. This is meant for brassbonanza. He raised a question of why the girl opened the door, yet then doesn't even have a speculative answer to his own freakin' question. Great way of doing business.
 
I would seriously be concerned about a parent who sat on such information that his/her daughter reported to her and did nothing about it except to comment on a sports blog.

I wouldn't. It's a sad fact that we don't know how many sexual crimes go unreported. I've known many girls who have not come forward with reporting for a number of reasons: embarrassment, shame, fear of scrutiny, fear of having their sexual history put on trial. (note: to my knowledge, no one I know had an incident with any athlete at any school.)

You remember an op-ed a few years ago in the freep, wherein the columnist came forward with her story about being raped? I don't think she named or pressed charges against her assailant. Just because no one else came forward, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Though, I would suspect that The claim against Nicastro will be investigated. Then again, I wouldn't call it fair to call for a witch hunt on all hockey players; unless there's reasonable suspicion, no one should be investigating Rollheiser's sexual history (for example).
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

In light of the report that stated she was mistaken about her RA duties and opening the door, did the breaking and entering charge get dropped? If she opened the door and he barged in uninvited to sexually assault her, is that a lesser charge because she opened the door?

Very important stuff here.

"She opened the door so she asked for it" or "she didn't know the rules when filing her report so now she is a liar (even though she believed she knew the rules) and has no credibility now so Trivino is a cool guy"? Having trouble figuring out which one you're saying but it's clearly one of these two things.

Well, in terms of legality, for breaking and entering he almost has implied consent to enter, then came in several times before she called the cops. So I feel that for breaking and entering they might have trouble proving that. The rest with Trivino, seems like it will come down to credibility between them: he said she said.

I don't have any details on Nicastro, so I gotta wait to say anything on this one. I'm hoping it is not true.
 
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