Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

[quiddlet]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

I wouldn't. It's a sad fact that we don't know how many sexual crimes go unreported. I've known many girls who have not come forward with reporting for a number of reasons: embarrassment, shame, fear of scrutiny, fear of having their sexual history put on trial. (note: to my knowledge, no one I know had an incident with any athlete at any school.)

Wait... do you think it being a sad fact and being seriously concerning are mutually exclusive?
Because I think it's seriously concerning that it's a sad fact...

 

[Terrier520]

Wait... do you think it being a sad fact and being seriously concerning are mutually exclusive?
Because I think it's seriously concerning that it's a sad fact...

Sorry, I'm not following. What do you mean? That the dad didn't press charges, but posted a comment instead?

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

It is "simple math" if 2 of the 5 incidents of reported sexual assaults involve students who happen to play hockey for the university. I don't like the idea of having BU not accept a bid to the NCAA tournament because it would punish the players who are responsible human beings; innocent until proven guilty. Collective punishment is nothing more than communism.

Here's a simple math solution: Send the #7 to heaven.

Sound's crazy, I know. The #7 should be unceremoniously retired and should be used as an example to all current and future players that this kind of behavior is unacceptable behavior for any person in society.

Don't hang it from the rafters of course. The BU Hockey public relations folks don't even need to let the public know that they retired the #7. We will all know that the number has been retired when we don't see any more #7's skating for BU.

Simple math.

yup, these are my posters.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Well, in terms of legality, for breaking and entering he almost has implied consent to enter, then came in several times before she called the cops. So I feel that for breaking and entering they might have trouble proving that.

This is all I was bringing up. If he were not charged with breaking and entering, this story wouldn't be all that relevant except to find out if she truly misunderstood the rules or made up a story after the fact.

 

[J.D.]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Are there really people arguing about which of the BC/BU programs has a worse criminal record?
I didn't read enough to figure out who started that but let's just put an end to it now... This isn't about a hockey rivalry.

Don't play dumb now

Anytime that conversation comes up, it involves Rover.

Wait, are you implying that someone should send Max Nicastro to heaven, or retire the number? So anyone wearing #7 is automatically a rapist? Would that also mean that anyone who is a defensive coordinator at Penn State is also a child molester?

Umm what? All he meant was don't offer #7 to any player going forward so it can serve as a reminder of what can happen if you make idiotic decisions.

 

[quiddlet]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Sorry, I'm not following. What do you mean? That the dad didn't press charges, but posted a comment instead?

brassbonanza said he found it concerning the parent didn't report the incident.
Terrier520 said he wouldn't be seriously concerned because it's a sad fact that many sexual crimes go unreported.
I was just saying that just because it's a sad fact doesn't mean it's not seriously concerning.
Or maybe Terrier520 was saying that he wouldn't have reported the incident if it was his daughter? I'll let him speak for himself.

 

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Well, in terms of legality, for breaking and entering he almost has implied consent to enter,

Yea... ALMOST.

In order to prove the defendant guilty of this offense, the
Commonwealth must prove four things beyond a reasonable doubt:
First: That the defendant broke into a (building) (ship) (vessel)
(vehicle) belonging to another person;
Second: That the defendant entered that (building) (ship) (vessel)
(vehicle);
Third: That the defendant did so with the intent to commit a felony in
that (building) (ship) (vessel) (vehicle); and
Fourth: That this event took place during the nighttime.

As to the first element of the offense, “breaking” has been defined as
exerting physical force, even slight physical force, and thereby forcibly
removing an obstruction and gaining entry.

TRY AGAIN.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Yea... ALMOST.

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TRY AGAIN.

Was there a report that he broke down her door or something when she opened it? I honestly don't remember the exact details and don't feel like tracking down the police report.

Umm what? All he meant was don't offer #7 to any player going forward so it can serve as a reminder of what can happen if you make idiotic decisions.

Misread post, reading through these posts quickly while also trying to get work done in my office and coordinate with UPS to ensure a package doesn't get stolen off my doorstep for the second time in a week, and a partridge in a pear tree.

 

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Was there a report that he broke down her door or something when she opened it? I honestly don't remember the exact details and don't feel like tracking down the police report.

It would seem like he barged in several times.

According to the BU Police Department police report, obtained from Brighton District Court, the incident began when the RA heard individuals of a room being extremely loud. The RA went to the room to tell them to quiet down, and Trivino followed her back to her room and pushed her door open, the report states. She said in the report that she told Trivino to go back to his room, but instead he allegedly started kissing and groping the victim. The victim told Trivino he was being inappropriate and should leave her room, and he left, according to the police report.

A few minutes later, Trivino allegedly returned and was banging on her door. The RA opened the door slightly and Trivino tried to kiss her, but she pushed him away, according to the police report. The RA said in the police report that she told Trivino “You need to stop,” and “You need to go.” Trivino allegedly cornered the victim by her desk and attempted to kiss her as she pushed him away, the police report said. She said in the police report that she managed to get him to leave at that time and she then texted a friend for help.

Trivino then returned a third time and banged loudly on the door, according to the report. The victim said in the report that she needed to open the door as part of her RA duties. Trivino allegedly forced his way in again and tried to kiss her, then sat on her bed, took his shoes off, said he would sleep there that night and laid down.

 

[CHFAN222]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Does anyone know what time arraignment usually is in Brighton District court?


Correct me if I'm wrong but in a case like this a representative from the ADAs office will present what they have so far in their case to a judge. At that point a judge will decide if there is enough to justify the arrest and send it to a grand jury. Also at this point the press should be able to get a copy of the arrest report through a freedom of information request?

 

[Terrier520]

brassbonanza said he found it concerning the parent didn't report the incident.
Terrier520 said he wouldn't be seriously concerned because it's a sad fact that many sexual crimes go unreported.
I was just saying that just because it's a sad fact doesn't mean it's not seriously concerning.
Or maybe Terrier520 was saying that he wouldn't have reported the incident if it was his daughter? I'll let him speak for himself.

Gotcha. Well, I don't have a kid, so I can't say I would do x or y. But t haven't pressed charges for those I know who have been in the situation.

Like I said, there are reasons these crimes are under reported. Whether or not this girl wanted that spotlight -- I think her father realized it was not HIS call to make. That help?

 

[quiddlet]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

It would seem like he barged in several times.

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So what you're saying is that there was no report that he broke down her door...

Bah, I'm tired of all of this. Why are we still talking about Corey?

What concerns me beyond everything else with the exception of the victim herself is how on earth after this happened once the players couldn't look out for each other enough to not let it happen again. Or indeed why the players would even have to do that. I'm not sure what I think it means yet but people that are starting to see a larger institutional problem are on the right track and it's utterly disturbing.

 

[J.D.]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Though, I would suspect that The claim against Nicastro will be investigated.

It most certainly will, but the percentages seem to indicate that when push comes to shove, the victim won't pursue this to the fullest.

 

[J.D.]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Also at this point the press should be able to get a copy of the arrest report through a freedom of information request?

What are the chances a freep "reporter" does this? Maybe the Great One will...

 

[Terrier520]

It most certainly will, but the percentages seem to indicate that when push comes to shove, the victim won't pursue this to the fullest.

But she does have the security in knowing she's not exactly "shaking the boat" or stirring up trouble or something. It may be easier for her to come forward now. Frankly, I hope she comes forward and doesn't hold back.

 

[Rover]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

I have to admit the Mitt Romney as University Prez does make some sense....

Oh and JD I've never badmouthed Westfield St and their stellar auto repair program so I'm not sure what 's driving your obsession with me.

 

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

So what you're saying is that there was no report that he broke down her door...

It seems that by law in MA he forced entry enough for a B&E charge. Duh. Are you illiterate?

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Does anyone know what time arraignment usually is in Brighton District court?


Correct me if I'm wrong but in a case like this a representative from the ADAs office will present what they have so far in their case to a judge. At that point a judge will decide if there is enough to justify the arrest and send it to a grand jury. Also at this point the press should be able to get a copy of the arrest report through a freedom of information request?

I believe the process is at the arraignment, Nicastro's lawyer will likely ask for a probable cause hearing, and this is where it would be determined if there's enough evidence to move forward. I suppose that could happen at arraignment, but in the unlikely event this is overblown beyond proportion, I wouldn't expect the judge to kick it at his arraignment. I don't know when a police report would become available through an FOI request.

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Yea... ALMOST.

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TRY AGAIN.

Oh Carmine, you have to look at all the facts. The fact that she let him in two more times after the first time she claimed he broke in makes her credibility on this issue less than pristine. When a guy breaks in to your place, do you let the burglar in a couple of more times before calling the cops? Not really.

This isn't law school, it's not cut and dried. There is a jury. They will find her credibility on the B+E highly suspect. It seems like an implied consent defense.

 

[J.D.]

Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Oh and JD I've never badmouthed Westfield St and their stellar auto repair program so I'm not sure what 's driving your obsession with me.

I don't care what you badmouth...it's just you talking out of your *** as usual. I'm obsessed with your obsession with BC athletics. It's fascinating.