Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

[ericredaxe]

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Parker interview on NESN daily after the Bruins game... If I understood Dale Arnold correctly.

 

[mookie1995]

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Parker interview on NESN daily after the Bruins game... If I understood Dale Arnold correctly.

you did

 

[Tater]

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Aside from all the news about Parker's retirement I wanted to mention a couple of things:

1) Congrats to the BU Women's Hockey Team on back-to-back Hockey East championships and 3 out of the last 4. Well done ladies. BC swept the individual awards, BU won both team championships (had RS as well.) I'll take it.

2) What a sick goal by Gill Saturday night. Started out on a breakaway, got tripped up, got up from his knees while barely losing any speed and put it past the goalie. Nice to see some production from him.

 

[pirate]

Changing the topic for a minute, but Elliott was featured in the New York Times.

The man is a legend, in every sense of the word.

Thanks for posting this.

 

[bantam75]

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Outside of the one great year that came out of nowhere, what was so spectacular about quinn's tenure? And if he left after a few years, who's to say he wants to come back? He could be the guy, bur if I were a fan, I'd want someone outside the last 15 years. Guess I'd rank him behind Sullivan and Hynes.

You're a BC guy and don't know these guys. How many All American d-men did he recruit and coach while here? A lot. Well respected everywhere inside and outside.I like Sullivan, but don't know if he is the right guy. Same with Hynes. Quinn did not leave in 2009 under the best of terms with Jackie, but as the Denver article said on Sunday, jobs like this don't come up very often in college, especially for a former player who was succesfull as asst and as a recruiter.

 

[UNH09]

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You're a BC guy and don't know these guys. How many All American d-men did he recruit and coach while here? A lot. Well respected everywhere inside and outside.I like Sullivan, but don't know if he is the right guy. Same with Hynes. Quinn did not leave in 2009 under the best of terms with Jackie, but as the Denver article said on Sunday, jobs like this don't come up very often in college, especially for a former player who was succesfull as asst and as a recruiter.

I think Quinn's resume at BU is a little inflated. The program brought 3 All American Defensemen during his tenure, (Gilroy, Shattenkirk and Cohen, and UNH had 3 All American Defensemen during the same period, Flashains, Yandle, Kessel) He hasn't stayed long at any of his stops as a coach, the longest being at BU his alma mater. His track seems to be him pointing at attempting to be the head man in the NHL, not settle into a role in college. That being said, if college coaching is what he'd like to pursue, more power to this scenario. Are the alums and fans going to allow the time for the program to go through this change or are they going to have issues with "subpar" seasons. I think the alums have more problems with the team not performing on the ice, rather than "a lack of discipline" within the program. I don't envy the people on the selection committee for this decision.

I think the "easy" selection is Toot Cahoon. He's coached in this league with moderate success, has a solid connection with the program, and if it doesn't work out, is easier to get rid of. The reach is Mike Sullivan, who will coach in the NHL again. The pick that will anger many here obviously will be Mike Bavis, if Bavis is picked then it is clear Jack wanted to walk away, and the administration didn't make his seat hot.

 

[pirate]

I can understand being prepared to announce before the playoffs since the season could end this weekend. I don't think they will conduct a full blown search during the playoffs for a few reasons: distraction, some coaches are still coaching other teams and time is needed to do things like ask permission to interview. So, figuring BU is realistically still playing for the next 2 weeks, they will put out feelers but they should try to keep the distraction to a minimum for a few reasons.

This isn't the NFL where teams need to strike fast to get the top guy...BU will have the opportunity to pick almost anyone they want (who wants the job).

So, no hurry is required and it would make sense to let Jack coach the team and the players play without continuous speculation about which interview took place yesterday.

 

[buoldtimer]

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I think Quinn's resume at BU is a little inflated. The program brought 3 All American Defensemen during his tenure, (Gilroy, Shattenkirk and Cohen, and UNH had 3 All American Defensemen during the same period, Flashains, Yandle, Kessel) He hasn't stayed long at any of his stops as a coach, the longest being at BU his alma mater. His track seems to be him pointing at attempting to be the head man in the NHL, not settle into a role in college. That being said, if college coaching is what he'd like to pursue, more power to this scenario. Are the alums and fans going to allow the time for the program to go through this change or are they going to have issues with "subpar" seasons. I think the alums have more problems with the team not performing on the ice, rather than "a lack of discipline" within the program. I don't envy the people on the selection committee for this decision.

I think the "easy" selection is Toot Cahoon. He's coached in this league with moderate success, has a solid connection with the program, and if it doesn't work out, is easier to get rid of. The reach is Mike Sullivan, who will coach in the NHL again. The pick that will anger many here obviously will be Mike Bavis, if Bavis is picked then it is clear Jack wanted to walk away, and the administration didn't make his seat hot.

1. I guess you don't read the BU threads. BU alums have expressed disgust on the site for the past 15 months over the antics of the two players who were arrested for mauling girls.

2. Toot Cahoon is only a few years younger than Parker. Yesterday, JP made a point of saying how good he looked now that he's retired.

 

[buoldtimer]

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You're a BC guy and don't know these guys. How many All American d-men did he recruit and coach while here? A lot. Well respected everywhere inside and outside.I like Sullivan, but don't know if he is the right guy. Same with Hynes. Quinn did not leave in 2009 under the best of terms with Jackie, but as the Denver article said on Sunday, jobs like this don't come up very often in college, especially for a former player who was succesfull as asst and as a recruiter.

Can you substantiate that remark? This is hearsay, but I was told that JP told Quinn that he should seize a coaching opportunity because he (Parker) wasn't going anywhere very soon. This was in 2009.

 

[claver2010]

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Are the alums and fans going to allow the time for the program to go through this change or are they going to have issues with "subpar" seasons....

I think the "easy" selection is Toot Cahoon.

Granted I'm an outsider but I think this fanbase has been looking at subpar (for their standard) seasons for a couple of years now.

This is a campaign we can all get behind #Toot4BU!

1. I guess you don't read the BU threads. BU alums have expressed disgust on the site for the past 15 months over the antics of the two players who were arrested for mauling girls.

ALLEGEDLY!

And probably didn't happen cause Colby Cohen said so

 

[UNH09]

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granted i'm an outsider but i think this fanbase has been looking at subpar (for their standard) seasons for a couple of years now.

This is a campaign we can all get behind #toot4bu! :d

think of all the possible bumper sticker sales!!!

 

[chickod]

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This is a campaign we can all get behind #Toot4BU!

No. One would think they would be looking for someone younger who is going to coach many years. They don't want to be conducting another search in two years. That's why my prediction is that this is not going to be a quick decision. And I hope that everyone is patient during this transition, especially those of us who wanted this. Yes, we were "warned" to be careful what we wish for and we understood that - at the time. I just hope we all remember that if things get off to a rough start, because there will be a transition period - talent or no talent and recruiting or no recruiting.

 

[Agganis]

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I think Quinn's resume at BU is a little inflated. The program brought 3 All American Defensemen during his tenure, (Gilroy, Shattenkirk and Cohen, and UNH had 3 All American Defensemen during the same period, Flashains, Yandle, Kessel) He hasn't stayed long at any of his stops as a coach, the longest being at BU his alma mater. His track seems to be him pointing at attempting to be the head man in the NHL, not settle into a role in college. That being said, if college coaching is what he'd like to pursue, more power to this scenario. Are the alums and fans going to allow the time for the program to go through this change or are they going to have issues with "subpar" seasons. I think the alums have more problems with the team not performing on the ice, rather than "a lack of discipline" within the program. I don't envy the people on the selection committee for this decision.

I think the "easy" selection is Toot Cahoon. He's coached in this league with moderate success, has a solid connection with the program, and if it doesn't work out, is easier to get rid of. The reach is Mike Sullivan, who will coach in the NHL again. The pick that will anger many here obviously will be Mike Bavis, if Bavis is picked then it is clear Jack wanted to walk away, and the administration didn't make his seat hot.

This is one of the weirdest posts on this thread. I'm not sure what you're saying with half of it (Is Quinn bad because he only recruited as well as UNH, or bad because he only won with top talent when UNH didn't win with as much talent?). Quinn was the other finalist for the PC job, and he applied for that while a professional coach, not at BU. Every year Quinn was here the team improved, so why would there be a drop off when he showed up the second time? As for Jack walking away or not, did you not see that BU extended is contract to work in a fundraising job? It doesn't appear they are trying to get him away soon. And this is all before that Toot comment...

 

[buoldtimer]

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No. One would think they would be looking for someone younger who is going to coach many years. They don't want to be conducting another search in two years. That's why my prediction is that this is not going to be a quick decision. And I hope that everyone is patient during this transition, especially those of us who wanted this. Yes, we were "warned" to be careful what we wish for and we understood that - at the time. I just hope we all remember that if things get off to a rough start, because there will be a transition period - talent or no talent and recruiting or no recruiting.

He's yanking your chain. The BC guys don't have high regard for Toot.

 

[Rogie21]

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Can you substantiate that remark? This is hearsay, but I was told that JP told Quinn that he should seize a coaching opportunity because he (Parker) wasn't going anywhere very soon. This was in 2009.

Not hearsay; more likely yet another Senator Kyl "not meant to be factual" comment, among many posted on this thread.

What Parker told Quinn:

“But as of right now, we’re just happy for David more than anything else. I think it’s a great opportunity for him. He’s always wanted to be a head coach again. He’s in a situation now where he’s probably in better shape to go two different tracks. He can maybe have the opportunity to become an NHL head coach or an NHL assistant coach. Or, he can be in better position after this experience in Cleveland to go look at some premier hockey jobs as a Division I head coach himself.”

 

[ericredaxe]

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I just hope we all remember that if things get off to a rough start, because there will be a transition period - talent or no talent and recruiting or no recruiting.

I don't see any reason there should be a rough start... even Jack said in a couple of interviews that next years team should be really good.

I suppose if some of the recruits start jumping ship that would be a reason, but I would not anticipate this. One already confirmed he would still come, another tweeted about it being tough news to swallow... but really if you are being recruited and the coach is in his late 60's, I would think that you would have to at least be anticipating the possibility that he will not be there for your full 4 years.

 

[Rover]

I don't see any reason there should be a rough start... even Jack said in a couple of interviews that next years team should be really good.

I suppose if some of the recruits start jumping ship that would be a reason, but I would not anticipate this. One already confirmed he would still come, another tweeted about it being tough news to swallow... but really if you are being recruited and the coach is in his late 60's, I would think that you would have to at least be anticipating the possibility that he will not be there for your full 4 years.

Jack also said he thought he had a national championship team last year before the @#$% hit the fan, but I can't say I ever saw that happening.

Having said that, this team does have talent (O'Regan, Gretzky, etc) although the goaltending concerns me a little. A good coach could take this team places in a short amount of time.

 

[Rogie21]

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I don't see any reason there should be a rough start... even Jack said in a couple of interviews that next years team should be really good.

Agree, although much will hinge on whether Nieto returns for his senior year. And if Privitera rejoins the team, only 2 Ds need be replaced. Transition needn't mean a slow start. See Lowell 2011-12 under Bazin. 12-5 in the first semester.

I suppose if some of the recruits start jumping ship that would be a reason, but I would not anticipate this. One already confirmed he would still come, another tweeted about it being tough news to swallow... but really if you are being recruited and the coach is in his late 60's, I would think that you would have to at least be anticipating the possibility that he will not be there for your full 4 years.

For the past year or so, Parker has let recruits know they shouldn't count on his being at the helm throughout their BU careers. So no one has been blind-sided by this decision.

 

[Terrier520]

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Jack also said he thought he had a national championship team last year before the @#$% hit the fan, but I can't say I ever saw that happening.

Having said that, this team does have talent (O'Regan, Gretzky, etc) although the goaltending concerns me a little. A good coach could take this team places in a short amount of time.

Agreed. With a good coaching staff, BU can go far next year.

 

[ericredaxe]

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Jack also said he thought he had a national championship team last year before the @#$% hit the fan, but I can't say I ever saw that happening.

Having said that, this team does have talent (O'Regan, Gretzky, etc) although the goaltending concerns me a little. A good coach could take this team places in a short amount of time.

I dont remember his exact words from the press conference yesterday, but I think he said on more than one occasion that he thought last years team could compete for the championship. I think he said it once after the game at Maine in December. They got off to a rough October but seemed to be hitting their stride before the $h!t hit the fan. National Championship might have been a strech, but certianlly very competitve was reasonable to think.

I think we are in good shape in net... our goalies have overall played well, with a couple of hiccups, but let's also remember that it is their frshaman year. I dont view goalie as an overall problem.

Unless recruits start to decommit (which I do not anticipate) I dont think we should expect any rough first couple of years.