Boston University Part IV: Off-Season or New Season?

[pirate]

Sure could have, cause this team could never finish the backdoor play. Jason must have scored 15 goals on that play his Senior year.

Completely agree that they never had the timing to hit many/any. If putting the puck in the net is a knack that some guys have...we ain't got much knack. Of the last 15 goals BU scored, how many were highlight worthy vs. scrums in front of the net?

I also agree with the sentiment with Coyle, would be great having him when we were ahead 3-0 and needed some time chewed up. For the amount of time the puck spends on his stick, he gets very few quality shots.

 

[mookie1995]

No need to apologize mookie. Sean Grande texted me that already......

You. Are. Such a name dropper!!!!!

 

[Jacques Joubert]

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What a sweet release from a long, annoying season (barring a miracle).

Some thoughts:

1.) How big was blowing that 3-0 lead to UVM now? Team would likely have 21 wins and be moving onto the Garden.

2.) The end of the third period left me wondering if coaching is really the issue? Once BU was down by three goals late, they started to play loose and just rush the puck. They threw systems out the window, the D-pinched, and they really controlled play for the last 5-6 minutes. They just played.

3.) What the heck happened at the end of the game? Sure Clendening bumped the NU player after time expired, but what happened with him and Cronin? No team hand shake? They Jack went after Benedetto. Team saluted the crowd, but barely. What a S*&$ show.

I think I'm cancelling my season tickets for next year.

BU Hockey: Disarray.

 

[buoldtimer]

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So, I guess the BU Building & Grounds Department has 20 or so unpaid, part-time volunteers starting today.

I promise you this, if Corey Trivino's name is missing from next year's roster, I'll attend Mass again.

 

[BigRedTerrier]

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I think I'm cancelling my season tickets for next year.

Maybe I'm just looking through rose colored glasses, but I think next year promises to be a very good one. With most likely everyone returning and some very talented players have had the experience of playing together for a year and not making it out of the quarters should yield a motivated and experienced team. If they can't at the very least make the tournament next year, then there are some MAJOR problems with this team.

Also,

Federal...were there any videos of the post-game press conferences last night?

 

[yankeefn01]

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I have found scenarios that have Dartmouth winning the consolation game and BU is in. We aren't done just yet, there are more than a handful of scenarios that get us in. Root against WMU, Dartmouth, and ANY upset auto bid winner not from Atlantic Hockey. UNH winning the tournament would help as well.

AHA not relevant.
CCHA: ND-MI in title, either wins. Miami over WMU in consolation.
ECAC: Yale over Cornell, Dartmouth over Colgate in consolation. Dartmouth beating Cornell, losing to Yale, no difference. Cornell cannot lose the consolation game, but can tie.
HE: UNH over BC
WCHA: CC over UAA, either UMD or BSU, both of those winners lose next game, either DU or NoDak win, no difference.

Assuming RPI breaks ties, BU is last team in the field in all of these scenarios.

I can get us as high as 14 right now, again assuming RPI breaks ties. There are a few big games to watch, but I can't right now find a scenario where WMU beats Michigan in the semis and we still get in. I can find scenarios where Dartmouth and CC both win one game and we get in. We are now HUGE Wolverine fans, among other teams. Interesting that in order to sustain a Dartmouth win, we NEED CC to also win. Conversely, a CC win over UAA does not mean we need Dartmouth to win.

Let's not forget the VCU / UAB factor... us getting into the tournament this year over a western michigan, dartmouth or rpi? crazier things have happened.

 

[Jacques Joubert]

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Let's not forget the VCU / UAB factor... us getting into the tournament this year over a western michigan, dartmouth or rpi? crazier things have happened.

There's no committee though so that argument doesn't work.. It's ALL the Pairwise rankings which are the equivalent of the BCS in college football.

The games are played and a computer decides.

 

[slurpees]

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There's no committee though so that argument doesn't work.. It's ALL the Pairwise rankings which are the equivalent of the BCS in college football.

The games are played and a computer decides.

I think someone missed the sarcasm. The basketball selection committee could probably cook up some rationale for putting Providence or Vermont in the tournament this year. "But we were afraid of what Jon or jcarter might say if we didn't!"

 

[Bomber]

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Give Up the Ghost on the NCAA talk already. This team isn't ready for prime-time.

I don't have time to start the off-season discussions today, but we have lots to talk about.

Look on the bright side: Stress free hockey for the next month!

BU Hockey: From Over Achievers to Under Achievers

 

[J.D.]

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Bomber, are you saying you wouldn't look forward to a meeting with North Dakota in Green Bay?

 

[BigRedTerrier]

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Not that I think that BU will get a bid, but Jim Connoly brought up a question I thought of as well...does the team continue to practice this week? I'd have to think yes, but man those must be god aweful practicies

 

[mpereira]

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Not that I think that BU will get a bid, but Jim Connoly brought up a question I thought of as well...does the team continue to practice this week? I'd have to think yes, but man those must be god aweful practicies

Yeah I would imagine you would have to keep practicing just in case those 3 things go your way and you sneak into the tournament to go get red hot North Dakota in the first round...not exactly like that game would be a confidence booster but any experience will help this young team.

 

[Federal League]

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Federal...were there any videos of the post-game press conferences last night?

That's a negative. Arielle and I don't have fancy flip-cams like Jake and Sam. Sorry 'bout that.

Not that I think that BU will get a bid, but Jim Connoly brought up a question I thought of as well...does the team continue to practice this week? I'd have to think yes, but man those must be god aweful practicies

I'm hearing they'll be back on the ice tomorrow, but I haven't confirmed that yet.

 

[BigRedTerrier]

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That's a negative. Arielle and I don't have fancy flip-cams like Jake and Sam. Sorry 'bout that.

Then why weren't you two dancing to some Lady Gaga?? Forget the whole conflict of interest and mainting impartiality bs of being a reporter.

Thank you and thank them too though...loved being able to listen in to that stuff and hear some of the stuff that doesn't make it into the articles.

 

[BigRedTerrier]

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Well...for me next year will provide a final test of that hypothesis.

 

[ericredaxe]

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Think what this team and the recruiting classes would look like if Parker had done the honorable thing and retired after 2009 and turned the team over to Quinn liked he promised he would do. Instead he welshes on Quinn, Quinn leaves and we have Buddy Powers???

And what about lake Erie's record in the past two years gives you a lot of confidence that the team would have looked a lot better?

 

[bantam75]

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And what about lake Erie's record in the past two years gives you a lot of confidence that the team would have looked a lot better?

What does that have to do with Dave Quinn's recruiting and leadership ability in the college game? You think it was coincidence that the team's fortunes changes after they got Durocher moved over to the women's program and brought in Quinn? You think that Parker is getting maximum output from his teams since the late 90's?

Also, do you think it was coincidence that the team's fortunes started declining in the late 90's after Blaise left in '95? The point is that with very few exceptions (York, maybe Jeff Jackson) the older coaches are not able to motivate D1 players like the old days. Quinn is considered one of the top coaching and recruiting talent in the college game.

Yale pushed out Tim Taylor 4 years ago for same reason I am pointing out here. The game had passed Taylor by and look what a younger, motivated coach has done for Yale. Of course there is no guarantee that Quinn would be "the guy", but look at the number of bust teams BU has had since 1999 and the last 4 years and ask yourself if Parker deserves to hang around another 4-5 years?

 

[defkit]

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What does that have to do with Dave Quinn's recruiting and leadership ability in the college game? You think it was coincidence that the team's fortunes changes after they got Durocher moved over to the women's program and brought in Quinn? You think that Parker is getting maximum output from his teams since the late 90's?

Also, do you think it was coincidence that the team's fortunes started declining in the late 90's after Blaise left in '95? The point is that with very few exceptions (York, maybe Jeff Jackson) the older coaches are not able to motivate D1 players like the old days. Quinn is considered one of the top coaching and recruiting talent in the college game.

Yale pushed out Tim Taylor 4 years ago for same reason I am pointing out here. The game had passed Taylor by and look what a younger, motivated coach has done for Yale. Of course there is no guarantee that Quinn would be "the guy", but look at the number of bust teams BU has had since 1999 and the last 4 years and ask yourself if Parker deserves to hang around another 4-5 years?

Okay, bantam75, you have literally summed up all of my thoughts and frustration posts of the past year.

Talent has not been the issue. The only not-so-great recruiting class in the past several was Zach Cohen and Lke Popko, and even that one turned out ok in the end(having Mr. Kane in that group would have made a bit of a difference ). We have a beautiful faciality and a historic program that people want to play for. But the coaching has slipped dramatically. Does anyone really think that Jerry York, with the same team, would have had a Power Play as terrible as ours? Whether it's the Xs and Os or getting the players to buy in, it ain't working.

 

[slurpees]

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Okay, bantam75, you have literally summed up all of my thoughts and frustration posts of the past year into these two quotes.

Talent has not been the issue. The only not-so-great recruiting class in the past several was Zach Cohen and Lke Popko, and even that one turned out ok in the end(having Mr. Kane in that group would have made a bit of a difference ). We have a beautiful faciality and a historic program that people want to play for. But the coaching has slipped dramatically. Does anyone really think that Jerry York, with the same team, would have had a Power Play as terrible as ours? Whether it's the Xs and Os or getting the players to buy in, it ain't working.

Some valid points, but let's not forget that a lot of the players from those "great recruiting classes" weren't on this year's team, specifically the older ones. I suspect the team, and the PP, would have been slightly better had this year's senior class been intact with Wilson, Bonino, Shattenkirk, and Cohen. Trivino and Warsofksy are the only two highly regarded pieces of the '12 class remaining on the team this season, with Connolly not being highly recruited, and then you have the sophomores and freshmen. While you make some points worth discussing with regard to developing the highly recruited players, you can't discount that a large number of them left early to go pro.

 

[claver2010]

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Some valid points, but let's not forget that a lot of the players from those "great recruiting classes" weren't on this year's team, specifically the older ones. I suspect the team, and the PP, would have been slightly better had this year's senior class been intact with Wilson, Bonino, Shattenkirk, and Cohen. Trivino and Warsofksy are the only two highly regarded pieces of the '12 class remaining on the team this season, with Connolly not being highly recruited, and then you have the sophomores and freshmen. While you make some points worth discussing with regard to developing the highly recruited players, you can't discount that a large number of them left early to go pro.

Slurpees, this has been hashed out tons of times but it's a Monday I'm bored.

The clear difference is that in addition to York getting the top kids, he also gets kids that fit the program (will stay for 3+ years, fit into team & community).

Now what's a "better" recruit:

Brian Gibbons or Colin Wilson?
Wilson will obviously play more in the NHL, 7th overall pick vs undrafted but...

Gibbons is a local kid, who stays 4 years and will go down as a top 10 scorer ever at BC