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Boston University 2012 Offseason

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Guy Marchaud said:
You need not look all the way up Comm Ave to Chestnut Hill for a benchmark on how a successful hockey program should be run. Look no further than WBA. In seven seasons the BU Women's hockey program has had exactly zero -- as in none, nada -- instances of player misconduct off the ice. Statistically, that program is at greater risk of under age drinking violations since the players are comparatively younger and a higher proportion of the team is under 21.
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I actually saw women's hockey players out drinking underage at bars I was at around campus more frequently when I was a student than I saw men's players, and it wasn't exclusive to T's at all. They still run a great program there and their ascendancy over such a short period of time is remarkable, but athletes all around probably aren't the best example of straight edge college students. I lived with the captains of another team at BU for two years at BU, not hockey players of course, and while the team was made up of really good guys, they were anything but straight edge. And neither were the other non-hockey athletes that used to party at our apartment.

Funny story, one party they had, the backup goalie at BC of their 2008 team happened to show up and saw my BU hockey posters and told me who he was. Decent enough guy.
 
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TimP said:
I love how all you BU dolts are propping up Colby Cohen to be some paragon of integrity. Why is that? Oh yeah, it's because JackPa paid him to come to his defense in the Andrew Glass scandal. Good to see the checks are still coming in.
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Completely baseless charge coming from a troll.
 
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J.D. said:
The only thing I'd say to him is use better references. Kentucky bball under Calipari? OK. Not sure why he mentioned Michigan. Ohio State would have been a better reference.
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I think his point was "ginormous athletic programs" (or programs at a school that transcend all others) in general. Not necessarily referencing any specific incidents. When you think college football, you think Michigan - when you think college basketball, you think Kentucky - when you think college hockey, you think BU. That sort of thing...
 
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I think a very simple way to break it down is:

1. Lot's of college kids, including underaged college kids (myself included when I was in college) drink underaged.
2. Lot's of college kids think they are invincible and some even act as if they are entitled, college athletes and others.
3. When it crosses the line is when sexual assaults come of the two above.

So in simple terms, if college kids, including the BU hockey players drank underaged and acted like they were the coolest things ever, but went to class, didn't drink before games, respected the program and gave it their all on the ice and in the classroom and acted decently out at bars and parties, no one would care they are drinking under 21 and acting entitled. It's only because of how inappropriate (and illegal) their behavior is.
 
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Agganis said:
Double reply, I apologize.

So you're claiming you gave the program thousands of dollars a year this past decade, yet haven't been proud of them for multiple decades? At least one of your claims must be false, I think it is more likely that they both are.
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Good logic on your part; sloppy wording on my part.

More accurately: I *have* contributed substantially despite periodic doubts and misgivings.
And, of course, one does not bail the first time one is disturbed by a player's conduct or the staff's response to that conduct. Nor does the won-loss record, per se, influence me -- a fair weather fan I am not. (Although teams that do not play hard every night and take too many stupid penalties or slapshots from below the dot do try my patience.) So, you keep giving and hoping and then something like 2009 happens to restore your faith and then the last few years happen to erode your faith.

More accurately: with a few exceptions (some that come to mind include 2009, as much for a class of six young men who stayed all four years -- when will we see that again? -- as for the championship; Johnny Curry; that series against BC when we were seeded 8th and knocked them off; that class with Dan Spang, et al) the program has been hard to be proud of on a sustained basis, given the periodic "incidents," all of which have been documented on this board. It's been going on for awhile, more than ten years for me... thus decades.

Technically, more than 10 years would be more than one decade, but the way I worded it, "decades" was an exaggeration.

Hope that clears it up.
 
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Rogie21 said:
Can't say enough good things about Lady Terriers' coach Brian Durocher who also was an assistant to Parker. Thankfully he chose to overlook Marie-Philip Poulin's rowdy history when he recruited her. ;):D
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/26022010/58/26022010132956.html
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Great pic. Well said.
There was a bit of a media scandal in Vancouver at the time as Marie-Philip was 18 and the legal drinking age in BC is 19.

http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/blogs/po...-ice-beer-and-cigar-party-raises-ioc-ire.html
 
brassbonanza said:
But you gave up your season tickets, parking, club room entry, and only wear women's hockey gear in public? Which is it?
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Back off, it takes a strong man to admit he wear's women's clothing in public. ;-)

But clearly he is doing well if within 5 years of graduation he has done all of that.
 
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chickod said:
I think his point was "ginormous athletic programs" (or programs at a school that transcend all others) in general. Not necessarily referencing any specific incidents. When you think college football, you think Michigan - when you think college basketball, you think Kentucky - when you think college hockey, you think BU. That sort of thing...
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Fair enough, except people thinking of BU when they think college hockey :p
 
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pirate said:
Back off, it takes a strong man to admit he wear's women's clothing in public. ;-)


But clearly he is doing well if within 5 years of graduation he has done all of that.
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Nothing like that women's gear to my *ss look great! :D

I saw the opening of Agganis as one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities and elected to go for the big package, so to speak. Plus, they had some pretty good migration deals for existing season ticket holders at WBA. You know... SMG... we're supposed to be good at analysing relative value. Good deal or not, however, those Agganis checks blew a big hole in most of my other discretionary spending. :eek:

Now, back to what's really important: the team. Let's just hope those who point out programs go in cycles are right and BU's time will come again (hopefully soon). For perspective, just look at Vermont over the past 10 years -- from suspension following the hazing incident to Frozen Four to HE cellar-dweller -- now THAT'S a cycle!
 
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Guy Marchaud said:
I saw the opening of Agganis as one of those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities and elected to go for the big package, so to speak. Plus, they had some pretty good migration deals for existing season ticket holders at WBA. You know... SMG... we're supposed to be good at analysing relative value. Good deal or not, however, those Agganis checks blew a big hole in most of my other discretionary spending. :eek:
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I'd agree with this... the club room/"premium seat" thing is pretty steep for what you get, as compared to the cost of a regular season ticket (unless you just want to look at it as a donation to BU).
 
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Agganis said:
Did you forget to log out of your normal account and sign back in as TimP before this pathetic attempt at trolling?
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I don't see the connection. claver posted an actual article. timP doesn't know what an article is.
 
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ericredaxe said:
I'd agree with this... the club room/"premium seat" thing is pretty steep for what you get, as compared to the cost of a regular season ticket (unless you just want to look at it as a donation to BU).
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A certain portion was actually treated as a tax-deductible donation. BU would send you an annual statement showing how much of what you paid was market value for watching a hockey game/parking your car, etc. and how much was a donation to BU beyond that. No different, really, than when you give $50 to Channel 2 and they give you a DVD worth $10. You get to deduct $40 as a gift.

Jack gave a terrific presentation to a FOH gathering when Agganis was still in the early stages of construction and was refreshingly candid that a large part of the Premium/Club/Parking price tag was, in fact, a gift to help BU build the arena. Really changed my view and helped convince me to take the plunge.

I also believe all those initial good deals expired after five years. BU was concerned about filling the building for most games -- it was a big jump up from WBA -- not just the top draw games. Jack was candid about that as well. He noted that BU could have planned for 9,000 seats and would sell out for every BC game, but be half-empty for say, Merrimack. He wanted the team to be playing to a pretty full house most nights, wanted the energy that a full building provides, and was willing to forgo the extra revenue a bigger venue would provide for top draw games. Made sense.

I don't know what the premium package costs today, but my guess would be the old line about "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."

FYI - I went to SMG as a grad student. No way I was able to buy Premium seats, etc. when I was 5 years out from my BA. Heck, I could barely afford an ordinary season ticket in WBA. Don't want to create a false impression on how well I'm doing.:rolleyes:
 
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