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Boston University 2011 Offseason

Re: Boston University 2011 Offseason

BU Fan 84 said:
I believe it was mentioned today that BU has only played BC twice. I was at the last one, in 2004 at BC, and there wasn't a home hockey game that night. It was also the last time we played them when Al Skinner was the coach, because we shot over 50% and almost beat them despite good games from Craig Smith, Sean Marshall and Jared Dudley. Scared Skinner off and that was the last of the series. Until now, I guess, with new coaches at BU and BC.
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I went through this before, the last time people on here proposed that a BU/BC basketball game could be a big thing...

They played in 3 times; 01-02; 02-03; 03-04

02-03 was the same night as a home BU hockey game.
BC 80 BU 61 Tues Nov 26th at BC
BU 3 Harvard 0 Tues Nov 26th at BU

Doesn't really matter anyway... attendance for the 3 games averaged under 4,900, so we are obviously not a big game for them, nor did we bring many fans down comm ave.
 
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ericredaxe said:
On where the Bruin's win ranks....

I think Superfan Joe put it pretty well over on the BC offseason thread. The BU win to me seemed more personal (particularly in 95 when I was more recently finished at BU) but the Sox in 04 and the Bruins in 11 seemed bigger (bigger stage, longer grind etc). For me, I've been cheering for the pro sports teams (particularly the Sox and the Bruins) ever since i remember cheering for teams, whereas I really didn't follow college hockey at all until I came to BU.

For me I'd have to say the Sox in 04 has to be #1, the Bruins a close 2nd, with the BU NCAA's a 2a (but with a different dynamic and different feel). The Celts was also big but somehow didn't seem as big since I had seen them win a few in my lifetime previously......... All that being said, if you asked me which team I most wanted to see win next, I'd probablly say BU.

As sterlippo said, It's pretty cool to be able to have this discussion.
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Under the High Class Problem Statute: It's difficult for me to rank the relative championships. As much as '09 was a eurphoric game in itself, winning in '95 ranks higher for me as I was friendly with some of the players and was still reeling from the '91 triple overtime loss. Unfortunately, with so much success in all of the major sports, the relative elation seems to go down with every successive win. '04 Sox was so meaningful due to its broad impact and the number of older family members who weren't alive to see it happen. The '01 Pats championship was huge due to the drought in Boston professional sports and how big an upset it was...and so on.
 
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I concede that this point belongs on another thread, but I imagine someone has already made the point on that thread.

However, the demise of the WCHA is stunning. Perhaps the best conference in college hockey is gone from one season to the next.
 
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buoldtimer said:
I concede that this point belongs on another thread, but I imagine someone has already made the point on that thread.

However, the demise of the WCHA is stunning. Perhaps the best conference in college hockey is gone from one season to the next.
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I can't even ponder yet the ramifications to BU and Hockey East. It looks like Hockey East may soon be a unique conference, the only one left to have a mix of major D-I hockey schools, middle-of-the-road teams, and D-II/III play-ups.
 
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Brian Gentry said:
I can't even ponder yet the ramifications to BU and Hockey East. It looks like Hockey East may soon be a unique conference, the only one left to have a mix of major D-I hockey schools, middle-of-the-road teams, and D-II/III play-ups.
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I can't really see it having much direct effect on BU or Hockey East. HE is in a unique position where it's got a very solid conference all within a bus ride. Right now, there's no reason to add any teams as there are no attractive options. ND is a growing program, but the travel costs outweigh the benefit. I don't see there being any truth to that rumor of a HE school joining the Leftover League, since the only two schools who would be approached that would have the budget for it, BU and BC, wouldn't leave without the other one, and I'd be shocked if Jack or Jerry would want anything to do with that move.
 
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slurpees said:
I can't really see it having much direct effect on BU or Hockey East. HE is in a unique position where it's got a very solid conference all within a bus ride. Right now, there's no reason to add any teams as there are no attractive options. ND is a growing program, but the travel costs outweigh the benefit. I don't see there being any truth to that rumor of a HE school joining the Leftover League, since the only two schools who would be approached that would have the budget for it, BU and BC, wouldn't leave without the other one, and I'd be shocked if Jack or Jerry would want anything to do with that move.
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Sure, besides the small chance of ND joining HEA, I'm sure there will be no change to the conference structure. I was thinking more about the possible impact (positive or negative) to the future competitiveness of the conference and BU by the new "West."
 
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Brian Gentry said:
Sure, besides the small chance of ND joining HEA, I'm sure there will be no change to the conference structure. I was thinking more about the possible impact (positive or negative) to the future competitiveness of the conference and BU by the new "West."
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I think we'll be fine as a conference in terms of competitiveness and it will be more of the same for everyone here in Hockey East. The collections of teams and associations change but not much else. The buildings, coaches, academics, etc are all the same still, so what recruits the players to these schools isn't being altered much.

I will say that what is happening out west is disappointing to say the least. I had hoped college hockey would be able to stay away from the stupidity that is happening around college sports but the Big Ten and Penn State ruined it.

One thing is for sure, no way in heck am I rooting for any of them now, even if they were going up against BU in the national title game. :eek: Eff them. I hope they all die of gonorrhea.
 
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Brian Gentry said:
Sure, besides the small chance of ND joining HEA, I'm sure there will be no change to the conference structure. I was thinking more about the possible impact (positive or negative) to the future competitiveness of the conference and BU by the new "West."
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https://www.ironmountaindailynews.c...2/Hockey-conference-realignment.html?nav=5006

"Invitations were also extended to Boston College and Boston University to join what has been dubbed the "Super League," but both schools turned down the offer to leave Hockey East."
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
I think we'll be fine as a conference in terms of competitiveness and it will be more of the same for everyone here in Hockey East..
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yup.

the one thing that this is trending to allow is expanded OOC games. i've brought it up before --i would love to see HEA split into two divisions and play an unbalanced schedule. have a Privates and Public separation. continue with three games within your division, then a simple h/h with the other. 22 league games. now we open up 5 slots for play vs other conference's teams - travel to big name schools on a year to year back-and-forth. extra home games vs ecac/aha. this would keep traditional rivals intact. (uhn-umo, bu-bc, etc)

PRIVATES
bu
bc
nu
mc
pc

PUBLICS
uhn
umo
uvm
uml
uma

top four in each division make the playoffs. cross over with 1-4, 2-3 matchups in best of three opening round. then continue in the fleet ctr for the championship. with one trip a year cross divisions, how cool would it be to have bu visit orono on friday and bc on saturday? i'd certainly go up and catch both games in alfond.
 
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slurpees said:
this must've been where the mysterious hockey east team rumor came from, this makes sense, there's no reason for either to go anywhere.
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The only thing super about it is their egos and moronic sense of what their worth is. In a million years they wouldnt leave hockey east
laughable for these ad's to think so much of their teams...

Hockey East is the premier league in the country and will continue to be so.

As it stands, the "super" league will be third at best, behind HE and Big Ten. With big tens resources and schools, they will crush the "super" star league...

Maybe they can get kenny powers to be their comish
 
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mookie1995 said:
yup.

the one thing that this is trending to allow is expanded OOC games. i've brought it up before --i would love to see HEA split into two divisions and play an unbalanced schedule. have a Privates and Public separation. continue with three games within your division, then a simple h/h with the other. 22 league games. now we open up 5 slots for play vs other conference's teams - travel to big name schools on a year to year back-and-forth. extra home games vs ecac/aha. this would keep traditional rivals intact. (uhn-umo, bu-bc, etc)

PRIVATES
bu
bc
nu
mc
pc

PUBLICS
uhn
umo
uvm
uml
uma

top four in each division make the playoffs. cross over with 1-4, 2-3 matchups in best of three opening round. then continue in the fleet ctr for the championship. with one trip a year cross divisions, how cool would it be to have bu visit orono on friday and bc on saturday? i'd certainly go up and catch both games in alfond.
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I have better names for the divisions...Leaders and Legends...how about that? Sure it sounds stupid and everyone would make fun of us but at least no other conference would be dumb enough to already use those names...we'd have a quick process through registering the names etc.

Sheer genious, I know. Hold it, getting somethin in my earpiece from the control room...let's go to Bill at the zoo with a heartworming story about a Panda, a lion and some of the cutest cubs you've ever seen.
 
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mookie1995 said:
yup.

the one thing that this is trending to allow is expanded OOC games. i've brought it up before --i would love to see HEA split into two divisions and play an unbalanced schedule. have a Privates and Public separation. continue with three games within your division, then a simple h/h with the other. 22 league games. now we open up 5 slots for play vs other conference's teams - travel to big name schools on a year to year back-and-forth. extra home games vs ecac/aha. this would keep traditional rivals intact. (uhn-umo, bu-bc, etc)

PRIVATES
bu
bc
nu
mc
pc

PUBLICS
uhn
umo
uvm
uml
uma

top four in each division make the playoffs. cross over with 1-4, 2-3 matchups in best of three opening round. then continue in the fleet ctr for the championship. with one trip a year cross divisions, how cool would it be to have bu visit orono on friday and bc on saturday? i'd certainly go up and catch both games in alfond.
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I like the idea of more OOC games... but I also like the balanced schedule...

Other idea: Add a couple of more teams (perhaps UConn and Holy Cross???) and keep the balanced schedule with 2 games against each other school... That would still be 22 league games and opens up 5 more OOC game possiblities.
 
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mookie1995 said:
with one trip a year cross divisions, how cool would it be to have bu visit orono on friday and bc on saturday? i'd certainly go up and catch both games in alfond.
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For cost reasons it is more likely that it would be a single long trip to Maine or Vermont for 2 games and hosting the other team for 2 games one season then switching the following season.

Besides, you're forgetting that Norte Dame is joing Hockey East! ;) And I hear Western Michigan is looking for a new conference, can you say 12th team?? :p

Sean
 
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ericredaxe said:
I like the idea of more OOC games... but I also like the balanced schedule...

Other idea: Add a couple of more teams (perhaps UConn and Holy Cross???) and keep the balanced schedule with 2 games against each other school... That would still be 22 league games and opens up 5 more OOC game possiblities.
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Unless Notre Dame and someone else joins, I don't see HE expanding any time soon. UConn and Holy Cross would be a terrible idea because that really doesn't help the league at all in terms of exposure. UConn needs to get serious about men's hockey before any major conference would consider adding them, and they've shown absolutely no willingness to do that yet. Maybe Quinnipiac because they actually take hockey seriously, but I still don't see how they make HE better.

Notre Dame would be a great addition, but I'm not convinced it's gonna happen. They would need to bring someone else with them, and I don't think HE has much (if any) interest in Western Michigan. Plus, the Super 6/7 and the B1G (which I've been told is a possibility) are better fits in terms of where Notre Dame recruits from. It also sounds like they're more interested in a 7 or 8-team conference than a 12-team conference.

My best guess right now would be that HE will look the same when the Hockalypse hits in 2013-14 as it does now. I do really like Mookie's idea, though. Every other conference seems to be creating room for more OOC games, and I think HE would be wise to do the same. Privates and Publics is a good way to split them up because it keeps the haves and have-nots pretty evenly split up and puts all the major rivals in the same divisions. North (Maine, UNH, UVM, UML, MC) and South (BU, BC, NU, UMass, PC) would work, too.
 
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Any chance that all this shuffling and the fact that the so-called Super League and Big-10 will only have 6 or 7 teams lead to something like the interlocking schedule HE had with the WCHA in the 80's? Those were good times; seemed like those games often brought out the best in BU. To cite just a couple of examples, anyone remember the wild 10-6 win by a mediocre BU team over Wisconsin right after Winter Break in 88'? How about the 1-0 win over Minnesota the following season?
 
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