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Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

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http://www.universalhub.com/2010/three-bc-hockey-players-among-those-charged-connec

Yikes.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

So maybe what BU needed this year was to smash some windows and steal some TVs...
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

So maybe what BU needed this year was to smash some windows and steal some TVs...
maybe the leadership on the team this year was too thorough and didn't allow any actions like this...
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

maybe the leadership on the team this year was too thorough and didn't allow any actions like this...

I know you're joking, but now I'm going to be serious.

maybe winning cures all. Did this years freshman go out too much, or did they just not win the games before and after they went out? Based on what I know about the Class of 2012 I'm betting on the latter. Was BC's upperclassmen better at reining in their freshmen? Apparently not. Was the same ping pong table that provided relaxation and team building in 08-09 really a distraction that needed to be vanquished in 09-10? Somehow I doubt it. Was there something that McCarthy and Strait did that made the team stronger that Bonino and Gryba were unable to do? Fewer than 3 posters here have ever been in the locker room with the team, yet a very large percentage blamed many of this past year's failures on leadership; however, since I'm not in the few that have been in the dressing room I don't know.
 
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I know you're joking, but now I'm going to be serious.

maybe winning cures all. Did this years freshman go out too much, or did they just not win the games before and after they went out? Based on what I know about the Class of 2012 I'm betting on the latter. Was BC's upperclassmen better at reining in their freshmen? Apparently not. Was the same ping pong table that provided relaxation and team building in 08-09 really a distraction that needed to be vanquished in 09-10? Somehow I doubt it. Was there something that McCarthy and Strait did that made the team stronger that Bonino and Gryba were unable to do? Fewer than 3 posters here have ever been in the locker room with the team, yet a very large percentage blamed many of this past year's failures on leadership; however, since I'm not in the few that have been in the dressing room I don't know.
I blame leadership because this team needed to be kicked in the ***, but weren't kicked hard enough.

Let's hope Pereira/Connelly own some steel toed boots
 
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Was there something that McCarthy and Strait did that made the team stronger that Bonino and Gryba were unable to do? Fewer than 3 posters here have ever been in the locker room with the team, yet a very large percentage blamed many of this past year's failures on leadership; however, since I'm not in the few that have been in the dressing room I don't know.

I mean, Ross Gaudet told me in person that Matt Gilroy and John McCarthy were the reason the team won it all last year. I think McCarthy and Strait both were way better captains than at least Bonino, if not Gryba as well. Gryba also told me he thinks the team lost a lot more than a player in Brian Strait.

I would say, however, that the team's behavior off the ice this year was talked about a lot more than last year. I don't know whether it's because last year's team was winning or not, but I've heard a lot of not-so-admirable things that the players were doing off the ice this year than I heard about last year. Enough, at least, to make me believe that the landscaping work they have to do for facilities and maintenance is good for them.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

I know you're joking, but now I'm going to be serious.

maybe winning cures all. Did this years freshman go out too much, or did they just not win the games before and after they went out? Based on what I know about the Class of 2012 I'm betting on the latter. Was BC's upperclassmen better at reining in their freshmen? Apparently not. Was the same ping pong table that provided relaxation and team building in 08-09 really a distraction that needed to be vanquished in 09-10? Somehow I doubt it. Was there something that McCarthy and Strait did that made the team stronger that Bonino and Gryba were unable to do? Fewer than 3 posters here have ever been in the locker room with the team, yet a very large percentage blamed many of this past year's failures on leadership; however, since I'm not in the few that have been in the dressing room I don't know.

So this started as a quick post, became something way, way longer, then was cut down to this. Pretty much just my thoughts on leadership as it pertains to this team:

Anybody who's ever been the young, new guy in anything, but especially sports, knows that when you first come in, you're first goal is to impress. You try to do more than everyone else as a result.

But then, as time goes on, and you see what the "normal" level of commitment is from the guys who have been around, you figure out what you can get away with. And then you start pushing the boundaries a bit of what you can get away with.

This doesn't mean this year's captains were going out four nights a week and didn't care about hockey. As Parker said, they weren't breaking windows and burning TVs.

But let's say Eric Gryba -- and this is just a random example, not at all a comment on how Gryba handles himself -- is doing defensive drills, and it's near the end of practice and he's kind of gassed. A player posts up in front of the net, and he's in Gryba's zone, and instead of putting a good, hard body into him, Gryba just gives a little wave of the stick in his direction.

You can't fault Gryba. He's gassed. It's practice. Ninety-nine out of 100 players would do the same. But let's say that one of the freshman is watching Gryba on that play. The freshman sees the play, and also sees the praise Gryba gets from everybody for being such a good defender. Forget the fact that it might be the only time Gryba isn't perfect all season –– the rook will remember it.

And so, when it's late in the 3rd period, and the freshman is gassed, and there's a man posted up in front of Millan...well, you get where I'm going.

That's the thing. A captain can preach like crazy to do things the right way. He can tell people what to do on the ice. He can tell them what they can't do off it. And 99 percent of the time, he can live up to every word he says.

But when you're a leader, there might always be someone watching. And that somebody watching might catch you at the one moment where you aren't perfect, but if they do, there's a good chance they'll remember it. Then, when they do the same thing, they justify it in their mind by saying, "Well, a stud like Gryba got away with it, and I'm only a freshman. What's the big deal?"

It doesn't make this year's captains bad people if they weren't perfect in this regard. I defy any of you to tell me you aren't 100 percent focused in the office each and every day, and that you never "leave a body in front of the net," so to speak.

It really just shows you how rare a guy like Gilroy is.

Sorry for the novel :D
 
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I would say, however, that the team's behavior off the ice this year was talked about a lot more than last year. I don't know whether it's because last year's team was winning or not, but I've heard a lot of not-so-admirable things that the players were doing off the ice this year than I heard about last year. Enough, at least, to make me believe that the landscaping work they have to do for facilities and maintenance is good for them.

Be careful with making judgments on things you heard and other rumors. Hockey players are high profile people on campus and there are always rumors flying around about what a few may or may not have done at a party or something like that. Especially with them winning it all last year and getting a lot more attention on campus it can lead to others becoming jealous and starting rumors and/or exaggerating things that happened. I'm not saying they didn't go out and screw around, I don't know, I wasn't there. But unless you know of things they did that you saw with your own eyes, I'd be careful to jump to conclusions based on hearsay.
 
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I blame leadership because this team needed to be kicked in the ***, but weren't kicked hard enough.

Let's hope Pereira/Connelly own some steel toed boots

Maybe they tried the same things last year's captains did and it didn't work, or maybe they tried more but everything when in one ear and out the other no matter what they tried, or maybe they were significantly worse. We don't know, we do know though, that if everything was going fine no one would be blaming leadership

I mean, Ross Gaudet told me in person that Matt Gilroy and John McCarthy were the reason the team won it all last year. I think McCarthy and Strait both were way better captains than at least Bonino, if not Gryba as well. Gryba also told me he thinks the team lost a lot more than a player in Brian Strait.

I would say, however, that the team's behavior off the ice this year was talked about a lot more than last year. I don't know whether it's because last year's team was winning or not, but I've heard a lot of not-so-admirable things that the players were doing off the ice this year than I heard about last year. Enough, at least, to make me believe that the landscaping work they have to do for facilities and maintenance is good for them.

Did #22 also tell you that Kevin, Nick, and Eric were the reason this years team didn't win it all, otherwise that comes from the Captain Obvious department, and you could list a few more people the team could not have won without. Did Gryba tell you that they just lost a player, and nothing more, now that Nick left? I think that most players on the roster are more than "just players."

I second what slurpees said, also I actually heard more "dirty deeds" in 08-09, although that's kind of a self selection bias, as I was younger and more interested in irrelevant off ice things than in 09-10. I have already posted about how the maintenance work is good, but I would say that simply based on the play on the ice to. A "Do you want to spend your April playing hockey or digging holes," kind of thing.

So this started as a quick post, became something way, way longer, then was cut down to this. Pretty much just my thoughts on leadership as it pertains to this team: [SNIP]

You'll notice that I never once mentioned Gilroy:)

For the rest of the post all you're really saying is the upperclassmen on this year's team were human...no argument here:p

I would hope the freshman could tell the difference between practice and a game though.


And for the record all of you guys, I don't vehemently disagree with any of you, it's just fun to be contrary sometimes, and I do honestly believe that if #10 remained healthy and Mr. Quinn was still on the bench this team would have been a lot closer than 6 wins from a NC and the the C's and A's would not be facing 20% of the criticism they did this year.
 
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I have already posted about how the maintenance work is good, but I would say that simply based on the play on the ice to. A "Do you want to spend your April playing hockey or digging holes," kind of thing.

Some of them really seem to enjoy planting trees and watering flowers, so it might be dangerous to give them that choice.

Regardless of what people hear, I've seen enough to know that many college hockey players - many college athletes at that - aren't the most righteous people in the world. I feel it's probably a good idea for them to consider the fact that they represent an institution more than they currently do, especially in light of the BC incident.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Regardless of what people hear, I've seen enough to know that many college hockey players - many college athletes at that - aren't the most righteous people in the world. I feel it's probably a good idea for them to consider the fact that they represent an institution more than they currently do, especially in light of the BC incident.

Next you're gonna tell me some pro athletes are unfaithful to their wives;) :D
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Some of them really seem to enjoy planting trees and watering flowers, so it might be dangerous to give them that choice.

Regardless of what people hear, I've seen enough to know that many college hockey players - many college athletes at that - aren't the most righteous people in the world.

And neither are a large number of normal college students.
 
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And neither are a large number of normal college students.

How dare you!

*Looks left, right, then down at the empty beer cans scattered across the apartment from this weekend*
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Got a season ticket holder survey, so emails aren't necessary.
 
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And having filled out the survey, I find it a little odd that is says the drawing for prizes will consider any entries received by April 19th, when I didn't get the survey until today....
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

And having filled out the survey, I find it a little odd that is says the drawing for prizes will consider any entries received by April 19th, when I didn't get the survey until today....

Hopefully the number 1 thing you put on the surveys is making sure Agganis e-mails are accurate and go out on time. Every year there is always confusion as to when tickets go on sale and during the year when there are special events.
 
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I had fun with it... Thank god for comments sections!!
 
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