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Boston College Women's Hockey - 2012-2013 Season Thread

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TonyTheTiger20 said:
I think it needs to be said: Boyles needs to be our goalie for the foreseeable future.
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In the immortal words of my good friend DC, "THIS"!

Haven't we all seen this film rerun over and over again? Don't get me wrong, it's a real honor and privelege to get selected to any of your nation's natonal teams.....even at U-18 Level, but.... what does that really mean? Except for US v. Canada, the games don't mean crap, so "International Experience" in my opinion is grossly overrated at that young level. Why coaches will automatically dedicate such confidence to these players just doesn't make sense to me. I don't want to embarssa anybody, but I can think of several players just over the last few years, including some goalies, who just didn't pan out at the D1 level despite being given the benefit of the doubt when they first arrived.

Just to be clear, I think the newest member of this club has great promise and will likely evolve successfully. I just don't think the coronation should be occurring yet, especially when there is an experienced option who has already outperformed in this young season.
 
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IceIsNice said:
Just to be clear, I think the newest member of this club has great promise and will likely evolve successfully. I just don't think the coronation should be occurring yet, especially when there is an experienced option who has already outperformed in this young season.
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This. I can't remember ever calling out an Eagle, ever, for not being the best option. But Miller's struggling at the moment. She will get there, but Boyles is clearly our best option right now and with us falling out of contention, she needs to be the one to help us climb back.

For the record, Boyles won gold for USA on the 2009 U-18 team. So it's not like she's below Miller as far as national team exposure.
 
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goaliedad35;5547417]Most non-goalie coaches are clueless when it comes to goaltenders particularly their psyche. Eagles goalie management has been baffling to date IMHO.
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What a bunch of crap. Goalies are coddled from the beginning of their hockey careers. Goalies stop pucks period! Not every goal is the goalie's fault matter of fact most aren't but at the end of the day goalies have to stop pucks and control their rebounds. The best way to control a goalies psyche is to put her *** on the bench then she won't have to worry at all.
 
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What a bunch of crap. Goalies are coddled from the beginning of their hockey careers. Goalies stop pucks period! Not every goal is the goalie's fault matter of fact most aren't but at the end of the day goalies have to stop pucks and control their rebounds. The best way to control a goalies psyche is to put her *** on the bench then she won't have to worry at all.
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I rest my case
 
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Well, I will dare say that one of two things is genuinely true:

Option 1: After years and years of highly specialized and somewhat expensive individual training, most college aged goalies and their parents are absolutely smart enough to know the difference between the following 2 likely scenarios:
A. receiving an appropriate level of attention during practices, off ice evaluations, and transparent discussions about such things as performance, preparedness, etc. coupled with the ability to work with a bona fide goalie coach who provides input directly to the head coach regarding playing time.
B: simply being sent to the far end of the ice for never ending 2 on 1 and 3 on 1 drills with no conversation and no feedback whatsoever, with no rational explantions regarding playing time.

Option 2: Goalies and their parents are a bunch of whiny idiots who know nothing and should shut up and stop the puck.
 
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IceIsNice said:
Option 2: Goalies and their parents are a bunch of whiny idiots who know nothing and should shut up and stop the puck.
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So if I read this correctly, now Parents have to help stop the puck :confused: :eek: :D

P.S.....In Canada, Team Ontario Blue (The B team), beat Team Ontario Red (The A team) in the National semi finals. You should see all the commenting about it on the Ontario forum with various anonymous posters throwing minor hockey players under the bus. Ugly. So I'm with you. Some parents are just a whiny bunch of...well you fill in the blanks.

P.P.S....Check your Rep !!!
 
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IceIsNice said:
Well, I will dare say that one of two things is genuinely true:

Option 1: After years and years of highly specialized and somewhat expensive individual training, most college aged goalies and their parents are absolutely smart enough to know the difference between the following 2 likely scenarios:
A. receiving an appropriate level of attention during practices, off ice evaluations, and transparent discussions about such things as performance, preparedness, etc. coupled with the ability to work with a bona fide goalie coach who provides input directly to the head coach regarding playing time.
B: simply being sent to the far end of the ice for never ending 2 on 1 and 3 on 1 drills with no conversation and no feedback whatsoever, with no rational explantions regarding playing time.

Option 2: Goalies and their parents are a bunch of whiny idiots who know nothing and should shut up and stop the puck.
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I absolutley agree with option #2!!!!!!!!!!!!! Specifically in Ice's case. I am a hockey coach and I'll admit I don't know much about goaltending. I know this: if the puck stays in front of you then you are my goalie. If the puck ends up behind you then you are not. I also know that any coach who wasn't a goalie that trys to tell his goaltender how to play net will get the stink eye. Both the goalie and the crazy parents will just ignore that coach. At the club level anyway I'm sure it's different at the DI level.
 
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UCONN FAN said:
I absolutley agree with option #2!!!!!!!!!!!!! Specifically in Ice's case. I am a hockey coach and I'll admit I don't know much about goaltending. I know this: if the puck stays in front of you then you are my goalie. If the puck ends up behind you then you are not.?!?!?!? I also know that any coach who wasn't a goalie that trys to tell his goaltender how to play net will get the stink eye. Both the goalie and the crazy parents will just ignore that coach. At the club level anyway I'm sure it's different at the DI level.
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WOW!! That's shallow!! :(

No goalies in the family......In the process of playing a game the fact is...fowards make many many mistakes..(bad pass given/taken..reading a play..playing a system)..Defence can get away with far fewer mistakes because it WILL be noticed more so than when the puck is headed to the offensive end. A Goalie makes a single mistake...HOLY CRRRAPP!!! EVERYONE in the stands and on the bench is an expert.
 
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If you want to be a goalie it goes with the territory!
"How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?"
Jacques Plante
 
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UCONN FAN said:
If you want to be a goalie it goes with the territory!
"How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?"
Jacques Plante
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Great quote from a great player

"I know this: if the puck stays in front of you then you are my goalie. If the puck ends up behind you then you are not."

Still shallow
 
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UCONN FAN said:
If you want to be a goalie it goes with the territory!
"How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?"
Jacques Plante
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And then they blow that horn that just about shakes the paint off the walls. Just watching a game with a goalie parent over the years whose kid is in net has shown me that being a goalie parent is a tough gig. I think all three parties -- coaches, goaltenders, parents -- deserve more credit than some are giving them.
 
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I claim no part whatsoever in this conversation other than my original statement that Miller has struggled and until she turns it around, BC should stick with Boyles in net for the time being.
 
ARM said:
And then they blow that horn that just about shakes the paint off the walls. Just watching a game with a goalie parent over the years whose kid is in net has shown me that being a goalie parent is a tough gig. I think all three parties -- coaches, goaltenders, parents -- deserve more credit than some are giving them.
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At the end of the day the Gs parents know what they are in store for/getting into. It's part of the gig and you can't have it both ways. Step up to the plate and let your play do the talking or face the music. It is a pretty simple concept.
 
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I think the original point was about goalie decisions...... credentials/pedigree/legacy/"experience"?

or.... the best player on game day, based on a truly objective and professional determination?
 
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myStuff said:
Great quote from a great player

"I know this: if the puck stays in front of you then you are my goalie. If the puck ends up behind you then you are not."

Still shallow
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LOL ok..I'm a bottom line guy...most coaches are.
 
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