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Boston College Hockey 2010-2011, Part II - We Still Have Jerry York. Sorry, Everyone.

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And I STILL think this voting needs to be done at the end of the season. We've seen too many performances in the Frozen Four lately that could have been dealbreakers for a certain player (Collins? Gerbe? Atkinson?). They admitted there was a problem in the process when a guy like Marty Reasoner exploded in the 2nd half of 1997-1998 and carried the BC team to a national title game from out of nowhere while leading the country in points if I'm not mistaken with 70 pts. Not even a top 10 finalist that year. It was such a terrible joke that they moved voting back. Good... but they need to do it again. Include the biggest games of the year when they best players shine the brightest. Who cares if the Heisman doesn't count bowl games or if some finalists are on crappy teams that can't get extra games at the end. They can still win it too, but you at least let kids on the teams still playing a chance to go win it as well.

Can't disagree with any of this. Maybe I'm wrong, but I always feel like the Hobey is gonna go to a senior most of the time. Compare that to college football lately and that hasn't been the case. Those guys get it right pretty much all the time. The biggest thing you've brought up is that people from the east might not get to see the best from the west until the NCAA tourney and vice versa. I'm just not sure what the perfect solution is here. I just find it silly when someone wins the Hobey without even being the POTY in his own conference. Things like that irk me.

I do think league awards should include non-conference games but if you want them to do the whole body of work you really need to push this back to be done AFTER the HE tournament at the earliest and at the end of the whole year as well.

I just have a big problem with doing this stuff before everything is all said and done. I know it's nice to announce these things when you have your luncheons as part of a HE weekend in Boston (I think?) and obviously include the Hobey as part of the Frozen Four weekend but they are cheapening their awards by doing it this way.

Agree again. Wouldn't mind seeing the process/timeline change, just don't know what the actual solution is.
 
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The biggest thing you've brought up is that people from the east might not get to see the best from the west until the NCAA tourney and vice versa. I'm just not sure what the perfect solution is here. I just find it silly when someone wins the Hobey without even being the POTY in his own conference. Things like that irk me.


My initial thought is you make up a committee to select the award once you have a solid list of finalists (unofficially or unofficially) and send that committee's members around the country to watch these kids and rotate them around to eliminate regional bias and maybe pick half of the committee to be eastern reps and half western reps based on where they are located. I like what I see when I see the bowl reps going to the last few RS games of potential candidates for their bowl games. Maybe that is something that could work in a modified setting to do for the Hobey

On the second part, if the POTY is different than the Hobey then someone got it wrong. Not necessarily the Hobey folks too, especially since they take more games into consideration as you noted before and that also includes all of the postseason games as well (can't remember how far voting goes for the HE awards).

Agree again. Wouldn't mind seeing the process/timeline change, just don't know what the actual solution is.

Do it on the Sunday after the national title game in the FF city. I know most people get out of there but get the award right rather than wanting to make it something people attend. Priorities are out of whack there.
 
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i had thought that this would be the weekend that UNH would play one of those two games in hand they have on us but they actually will pick up another. they have their annual game with Dartmouth and no HE games this weekend and we have the one at Maine. huge game for the boys as we dont want to just stay even with UNH and them have 3 games in hand..........gotta get this one sunday but you know they'll be ready for us as they always are up there
 
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i had thought that this would be the weekend that UNH would play one of those two games in hand they have on us but they actually will pick up another. they have their annual game with Dartmouth and no HE games this weekend and we have the one at Maine. huge game for the boys as we dont want to just stay even with UNH and them have 3 games in hand..........gotta get this one sunday but you know they'll be ready for us as they always are up there

I think BC is in good shape, seeing as Maine is their only game this weekend. I don't think the Black Bears can overlook Providence on Friday night. Providence certainly plays a much different game than BC.
 
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I am much more concerned about Maine from a PWR (TUC) point of view than the HE standings.
 
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the ezac eggheads have all gone silent, but i noticed that doormat colgate lost a 2-1 game to juggernaut union last night. i remember when BC eeked out a one goal win over the raiders (despite being without 4 key players) it was practically still an upset for team toothpaste.
 
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I am much more concerned about Maine from a PWR (TUC) point of view than the HE standings.

BC holds a 3-1 lead over Maine right now in the comparision. Maine hasnt reached the TUC cliff yet but their record in those games is dreadful so far. A win for BC would pretty much seal the deal; but a loss wouldnt really change much. clearly, overall rpi/tuc/coop would be affected - which is possibly what you meant.
 
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Michael Matheson to BC

For the fall of 2012. Chose BC over BU and UVM. Top notch offensive d-man with top notch skating. Projected as a 2012 1st round pick.

Now, the question is, will he actually come here? When's the last time BC had a kid from Quebec on the roster?
 
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Michael Matheson to BC

For the fall of 2012. Chose BC over BU and UVM. Top notch offensive d-man with top notch skating. Projected as a 2012 1st round pick.

Now, the question is, will he actually come here? When's the last time BC had a kid from Quebec on the roster?

I'm most interested in the fact that it is reportedly for 2012. A kid like that you'd like to get on campus as soon as possible because you never know how long he'll last and BC had reportedly put the offer out for as early as 2011. I still have to wonder if he's going to change to 2011 or if he heads to Dubuque.
 
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I'm most interested in the fact that it is reportedly for 2012. A kid like that you'd like to get on campus as soon as possible because you never know how long he'll last and BC had reportedly put the offer out for as early as 2011. I still have to wonder if he's going to change to 2011 or if he heads to Dubuque.

that would obviously depend on departures. they have no D recruits for next year - and technically expect to return all 7 guys. so if cross or dumoulin bolts, i would imagine they would explore accelerating him.
 
that would obviously depend on departures. they have no D recruits for next year - and technically expect to return all 7 guys. so if cross or dumoulin bolts, i would imagine they would explore accelerating him.

Hard to guess with tommy's injury deal. Would the bruins rush to sign him? Or would they tell him "play injury free, get your degree, then we'll take care of things.". Though when he was recruited the 'college degree' push by Jerry was a selling point. Domoulin, who knows?
 
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I'd be shocked if the B's signed Cross after this season; way too many injury issues to rush him. With all the likely early departures at forward, am guessing that Alber will be switched to forward next year, which leaves us with only 6 D-men, and 5 if Domoulin leaves. Personally I'd push for this kid to come next year as he's probably not going to stay long so you might as well get as many years as possible out of him.
 
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The other guys who I'm wondering about whether they come in 2011 or 2012 are Straight and Sit, both forwards with early 93 birthdates. If Atkinson, Kreider and JHayes all leave early as expected, I'm guessing at least one will come next year, with Straight likely being more ready coming from the BCHL vs Sit playing MN HS. While we are likely to lose a lot of talent up front, we should still be able to cobble together a couple decent scoring lines with guys like KHayes, Arnold, Carey, Mullane, SWhitney, Almeida, Tiefenwerth & Straight.
 
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BC has a kid named "Sit" and another kid named "Straight"? LOL.
 
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I don't see a BC recruit thread on here, but I've heard reports that Edina High School (MN) forward Michael Sit has committed to BC.
http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/roster_player/show/350577?subseason=27330

I had no problem with the link. Does anyone know for sure if BC has offered a scholarship to this kid? By the comments at the following link, http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/74779?referrer_id=32770 , it looks like he may be a walk-on.
 
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Michael Matheson to BC

For the fall of 2012. Chose BC over BU and UVM. Top notch offensive d-man with top notch skating. Projected as a 2012 1st round pick.

Now, the question is, will he actually come here? When's the last time BC had a kid from Quebec on the roster?

This articles makes it seem like he is extremely committed to the college game due to the few number of games and more practice/weightlifting/working on his body time.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/36646-Prospect-Watch-Michael-Matheson.html

Rated as the top prospect available for the Quebec League draft this past summer, Matheson visited both Baie-Comeau and Halifax (the teams with the first two picks), but also made it clear to everyone when the time came that he had made a decision to follow the NCAA route.

“I didn’t make a decision until two weeks before the draft,” Matheson said. “We didn’t hide anything. They knew for sure I wasn’t coming, every team knew.”

Which is why Matheson ended up as Shawinigan’s second round pick, 27th overall. Not that he was swayed. The young blueliner has narrowed his choice of schools down to four suitors – Boston College, Boston University, Northeastern and Vermont. Geographically, the three Boston schools and UVM all keep him fairly close to home, while offering a top-notch program where he can hone his game.

“Hockey-wise, it takes longer for defensemen to develop,” Matheson said. “With college there’s fewer games, more practice time, more time for sure in the gym to develop my body and give it time to mature.”

At 6-foot-1 and 169 pounds, Matheson has a great frame to build on and the reigning Quebec midget AAA rookie of the year is proving he can put up numbers on a consistent basis. The Lions stalwart is leading the league in scoring by a defenseman with nine goals and 26 points in 19 games. But once again, his success isn’t limited to sublime skill.
 
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Sooo perhaps people were too crushed by the Pats losing to comment on the game tonight...

Not gonna get all worked up about this one...it happens. Just wasn't BC's night.

Actually thought BC looked pretty good early on. Maine had a great PP last year with all their guys coming back, so I don't care what the numbers might say. That's a dangerous PP. While I don't like the way they call open ice hitting from behind at the collegiate level, Joe Whitney has to know by now to refrain from those types of hits. On the ensuing PP, Carey went off on a bad change...he should have stayed with the play. Him going off really created a virtual 5-on-3 and Maine capitalized before the guy off the bench could get back in the play.

2nd Maine goal: last minute of the period--killer. 4th line on the ice, Tommy Atkinson falls asleep and doesn't tie up House.

3rd Maine goal: first minute of a period--another killer. Think maybe Dumoulin could have been a little more aggressive in going at Flynn. Instead, he was a little indecisive and I believe screened Muse in the process.

4th Maine goal: Cross loses his stick, eventually preventing him from getting to a loose puck. Not sure if Muse was screened, but it looked like the shot either hit something or was a bit of a knuckleball.

Timeout, goalie change. Starman a little inconsistent saying Muse had no chance on the 3rd goal and then saying that's one he'd like back. Either way, BC appeared to get a little rattled in this game. Obviously giving up the late goal in the first and the early goal in the second put this game away. The game just got away from them a little bit. It happens, even to good teams.

Props to Milner for coming in and playing very well. Not a bad wakeup call tonight for BC. Maine is simply a better team than their record/play indicates. They are more talented than BU and I think a win like this for them will carry them on a run.

Certainly some things for the coaches to go over, not a bad thing. With the loss, however, sets up an even bigger game with BU on Friday.
 
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^^ very big game friday and BU has been playing a lot better since that weekend vs us...........
 
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