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Boston College Hockey 2010-2011, Part II - We Still Have Jerry York. Sorry, Everyone.

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SteveF said:
doesn't it appear that our teams aren't exactly road warriors anymore. they struggle at PC, they struggle at UVM, they struggle at maine, they struggle at UNH. is this the nba or what?? i guess i shouldnt be surprised because the recent teams rarely had any wowing regular seasons - so the losses must come somewhere.

i guess thank god we own agganis!
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and you're right of course.;) the last 5 years have produced these road records:
05-06 7-7-1
06-07 10-6-1
07-08 8-3-4*
08-09 5-7-5
09-10 7-6-3*
* National Champions
strange that the best road record percentage wise in that stretch was the 07-08 team that racked up most of their losses at home with the unfathomable (for a National Championship team) 4-7-3 HE home record and 6-7-4 overall home record. so you're right on. the last 5 years have produced 3 mediocre road records and 2 pretty good ones.........not really deserving of the title "Road Warriors" but i like the final results though:D
 
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was it '08-'09 where they found every way possible to lose at home?
 
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J.D. said:
was it '08-'09 where they found every way possible to lose at home?
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more than a couple losses/ties came right at the end of games IIRC (UML and NU come to mind)
 
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I remember that crap game at UVM when they tied it with like a second to go. That one sticks in my head.
 
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Hobey Baker fan voting has started. BC nominees are Brian Gibbons, Cam Atkinson & John Muse - vote early, vote often: http://bit.ly/voteBC
 
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mwade said:
Hobey Baker fan voting has started. BC nominees are Brian Gibbons, Cam Atkinson & John Muse - vote early, vote often: http://bit.ly/voteBC
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.......when Nathan Gerbe didn't win in it 2008, i was completely done with this award, it is meaningless to me now, not to mention the fact that the next winner wasn't even the best player on his team, IMO
 
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sterlippo1 said:
.......when Nathan Gerbe didn't win in it 2008, i was completely done with this award, it is meaningless to me now, not to mention the fact that the next winner wasn't even the best player on his team, IMO
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he wasn't the 'most talented', if that's what you are getting at. but he was, without question, the best HOCKEY PLAYER on the team. highest level of combined talent, leadership, patience, and moxie.

literally (:D), a man amongst boys.
 
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mookie1995 said:
he wasn't the 'most talented', if that's what you are getting at. but he was, without question, the best HOCKEY PLAYER on the team. highest level of combined talent, leadership, patience, and moxie.

literally (:D), a man amongst boys.
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i defer to you.....but as a casual observer:eek:i'd have voted for Colin Wilson and i get the last line;)
 
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My problem with the Hobey is that the 10 finalists are by and large the 10 best players in the country. Every year, there are finalists who do next to nothing off the ice and are only there because they're one of the top scorers. But then when we get to the Hat Trick, suddenly what they did off the ice is just as important as what they did on the ice. Make up your mind- either it matters from start to finish, or it doesn't matter at all. Personally, I wish it just went to the best player like the Heisman. Very few of the voters actually know enough about what these guys do off the ice to have that be such a big factor. That's why you see so many curious choices IMO. I've disagreed with almost every Hobey choice for as long as I can remember.
 
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as an aside, can anyone tell me what mannydad's latest rep to me means

"french kiss the deuce horse face"
 
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If I were in charge, I would simply limit the Hobey Candidates to each league's POTY. To do that, I would do away with the silly process of only counting league games when these people decide all league honors, etc. It should encompass the whole body of work.
 
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SteveF said:
as an aside, can anyone tell me what mannydad's latest rep to me means

"french kiss the deuce horse face"
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haven't heard that before so i can't help you;) ......... i haven't seen hokyd.......err, i mean mannydads:cool: posts but i dont read all the threads and thankfully there haven't been any here
 
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Federal League said:
My problem with the Hobey is that the 10 finalists are by and large the 10 best players in the country. Every year, there are finalists who do next to nothing off the ice and are only there because they're one of the top scorers. But then when we get to the Hat Trick, suddenly what they did off the ice is just as important as what they did on the ice. Make up your mind- either it matters from start to finish, or it doesn't matter at all. Personally, I wish it just went to the best player like the Heisman. Very few of the voters actually know enough about what these guys do off the ice to have that be such a big factor. That's why you see so many curious choices IMO. I've disagreed with almost every Hobey choice for as long as I can remember.
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It's a unique sport because of the regionalization and it's not a highly televised sport. So you have one half of the country not very aware of what is going on in the other half. So they go look up some stats, pick the top guys from the other side of the country statistically and that's that. And who knows if they are ever willing to vote for someone from the other side of the country that they've barely seen? I'd imagine they'll go with what their own eyes have seen on their side of the country.

That's a problem in my opinion. And I STILL think this voting needs to be done at the end of the season. We've seen too many performances in the Frozen Four lately that could have been dealbreakers for a certain player (Collins? Gerbe? Atkinson?). They admitted there was a problem in the process when a guy like Marty Reasoner exploded in the 2nd half of 1997-1998 and carried the BC team to a national title game from out of nowhere while leading the country in points if I'm not mistaken with 70 pts. Not even a top 10 finalist that year. It was such a terrible joke that they moved voting back. Good... but they need to do it again. Include the biggest games of the year when they best players shine the brightest. Who cares if the Heisman doesn't count bowl games or if some finalists are on crappy teams that can't get extra games at the end. They can still win it too, but you at least let kids on the teams still playing a chance to go win it as well.

And you raise a good point about the other aspects of the award off of the ice.
 
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J.D. said:
If I were in charge, I would simply limit the Hobey Candidates to each league's POTY. To do that, I would do away with the silly process of only counting league games when these people decide all league honors, etc. It should encompass the whole body of work.
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I do think league awards should include non-conference games but if you want them to do the whole body of work you really need to push this back to be done AFTER the HE tournament at the earliest and at the end of the whole year as well.

I just have a big problem with doing this stuff before everything is all said and done. I know it's nice to announce these things when you have your luncheons as part of a HE weekend in Boston (I think?) and obviously include the Hobey as part of the Frozen Four weekend but they are cheapening their awards by doing it this way.
 
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SteveF said:
as an aside, can anyone tell me what mannydad's latest rep to me means

"french kiss the deuce horse face"
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I miss hokydad. That's quite an interesting quote.

I wonder what he thought of the US getting rammed from behind by Canada in the semis...
 
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[URL="http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/74779?referrer_id=148514]Edina High School's Michael Sit commits to BC[/URL]

EDIT: Not sure why the link isn't working, but if you go to mnhockeyhub.com, the article is on the top of the page.
 
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