BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

[Blackbeard]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

It could very well have been more a case of their strength of schedule and the experience and know-how of playing and learning how to beat opponents having talent and systems at least equal to that of their own.

Do the rules in the various leagues prevent the teams from scheduling games against men's teams? Some eastern teams have scheduled games at the beginning of the season against McGill a few years ago so they are not only out of conference games they are, with respect to the opponent, out of D1/country games.

If nothing prevents it then maybe this is a way to get the experience against better opponents than presently exist in one's league, possibly even better than your own team if you are the league leader. You could forgo half a dozen practices during the season and substitute them for games against men's teams.

Maybe there are other issues that would make this a no go...just a thought.

 

[ne7minder]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

Ask the players If they are celebrating a 40-1 season without a National Championship - the post game interviews were heartbreaking. Those ladies were 40-0 - Crowley was 0-1 and has shown she can't win the game that matters.

Pasta! I hope you are joking but around sports it is nearly impossible to tell the wildly sarcastic from the average dense.

 

[bluffrinkrat]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

Crowley did better this year than any other coach in the east in the past 16 years except once and that year it took two coaches to win the big one.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

Anyone blaming Crowley for us losing in the final is an idiot. That's my #strongtake for the day.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

Anyone blaming Crowley for us losing in the final is an idiot. That's my #strongtake for the day.

Heavy sarcasm alert

The blame belongs to Minnesota...

How dare they not schedule regular season matchups with bc? Don't they know they have a responsibility to help teams like bc so they are able to beat them? And what's with this pull a rabbit out of the hat at the last minute situation with Kessel. That's really not fair. They were also so terribly disrespectful to the greatness of bc by harassing the heralded one right at the start of the game. Don't they know who she is and that they were supposed to be good little pylons and observe the dazzling bc breakout?

 

[Ted Knight]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

Ask the players If they are celebrating a 40-1 season without a National Championship - the post game interviews were heartbreaking. Those ladies were 40-0 - Crowley was 0-1 and has shown she can't win the game that matters.

and I'm sure it was Professor Warren's fault you got a D in English 101. you sure you're not from Harvard?

i'm officially retired from this board. this guy put me over the top.

it was a blast going back and forth with all of you for 2 years. I really mean that. it breaks up the monotony of the work day.

a few final thoughts;
MN and WI are great teams
ARD should have won the Kaz
Good luck to Kessel.
Love Joel Johnson...he actually won 4 championships in 2 years...try to top that!
if anyone watched that final game and believes it was one sided they are way too biased to see the fact. Leveille was a wall.

the guy with the MN shirt in NH that tried to help lead the band needs a shave and a shower.

bye

 

[bluffrinkrat]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

and I'm sure it was Professor Warren's fault you got a D in English 101. you sure you're not from Harvard?

i'm officially retired from this board. this guy put me over the top.

it was a blast going back and forth with all of you for 2 years. I really mean that. it breaks up the monotony of the work day.

a few final thoughts;
MN and WI are great teams
ARD should have won the Kaz
Good luck to Kessel.
Love Joel Johnson...he actually won 4 championships in 2 years...try to top that!
if anyone watched that final game and believes it was one sided they are way too biased to see the fact. Leveille was a wall.

the guy with the MN shirt in NH that tried to help lead the band needs a shave and a shower.

bye

To your last point. That's why he's sat alone at Ridder for the last ten years or so.

I have to admit, he plays pretty good cymbals though, if the need arises.

 

[pokechecker]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

if anyone watched that final game and believes it was one sided they are way too biased to see the fact. Leveille was a wall.

don't go away mad, just go away

after watching the replay on Sunday, I agree
watching in person you always see a lot more than on TV
watching on a laptop you see a little less than TV
IOW, the original broadcast was like watching a baseball game thru a knothole in the fence


it almost seemed like a different game watching the TV replay compared to my first view on the laptop
the game was much closer having viewed it the second time
and although I thought #29 played a great game on the first view,
I can appreciate just how well she played even better on the TV broadcast

 

[CrazyDave]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

the guy with the MN shirt in NH that tried to help lead the band needs a shave...

I was going for the playoff scruff. It's worked for Frosty.

... and a shower.

To your last point. That's why he's sat alone at Ridder for the last ten years or so.

Hey now. Stop that.

Besides, I have to be by my people.

I will admit that I need to wash my jersey.

I have to admit, he plays pretty good cymbals though, if the need arises.

 

[Puckdrop14]

Any coach that goes 40-1, I want coaching my team. Some folks are just simple minded. On that day, Minny were better. Leveille was better. She does not get the credit she deserves and showed her value in the playoffs. As for ARD, she faces 15 shots a game. Great goalie but if I want to win a game, I will pick the Gopher great.

 

[5mn_Major]

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Any coach that goes 40-1, I want coaching my team. Some folks are just simple minded. On that day, Minny were better. Leveille was better. She does not get the credit she deserves and showed her value in the playoffs. As for ARD, she faces 15 shots a game. Great goalie but if I want to win a game, I will pick the Gopher great.

Minnesota was a bit better than I think folks have given them credit for. They were the better team that day. I really wasn't that equal. That's because MN was ahead the whole day. BC should have carried play and tied it up. That's the natural inclination of game play when one team is down by a goal. And they couldn't carry play.

Having said that, I don't know if people remember that the Gophers was a historically loaded national championship team...that added the freshman player of the year...and then the Kaz winner and one of the best players in the world over the last 5 years. BC (and UW) should have been blown out by this team. It is a major testament to BC that it was a good game and many other years, BC walks to an NC.

 

[ne7minder]

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Minnesota was a bit better than I think folks have given them credit for. They were the better team that day. I really wasn't that equal. That's because MN was ahead the whole day. BC should have carried play and tied it up. That's the natural inclination of game play when one team is down by a goal. And they couldn't carry play.

Having said that, I don't know if people remember that the Gophers was a historically loaded national championship team...that added the freshman player of the year...and then the Kaz winner and one of the best players in the world over the last 5 years. BC (and UW) should have been blown out by this team. It is a major testament to BC that it was a good game and many other years, BC walks to an NC.

I like what you say but your conclusion is wrong. BC would have lost to Wisconsin and the proof of that is in the 6 games Wisconsin played against Minnesota. Winning 3 of them and taking 2 of the 3 they lost into OT Wisconsin never looked far away as BC did. That is not a negative on the Eagles, they had a tremendous season and deserve a lot of credit for what they did accomplish but they were still the 3rd best of the final 4 and Clarkson showed that was a close thing too.

 

[5mn_Major]

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I like what you say but your conclusion is wrong. BC would have lost to Wisconsin and the proof of that is in the 6 games Wisconsin played against Minnesota. Winning 3 of them and taking 2 of the 3 they lost into OT Wisconsin never looked far away as BC did. That is not a negative on the Eagles, they had a tremendous season and deserve a lot of credit for what they did accomplish but they were still the 3rd best of the final 4 and Clarkson showed that was a close thing too.

I had no such conclusion

I said MN had a very talented team and that in many years, BC walks to an NC but not this one. And nothing of a comparison between this year's BC and UW teams.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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BC was every bit as good as Minnesota and Wisconsin this year but was not better on that day. If you played this game 10 times, BC would have won 5.

Wisconsin swept the Gophers in the season opening series this year. They were every bit as good as Minnesota this year but were not on those particular days. If you played those games 10 times Wisconsin would have won 5.

You can disagree with that all you want -- and you have your hardware so congratulations. But when you play one game between two teams that are equals, only one team can win.

The better team does not always win. They were the better team on this day, the day that matteed, but they were not "a better team" than BC over the course of the season. These teams were equals and frankly, yes, this game was closer than a lot of you are letting on. This game plays out differently if the Gophers don't jump ahead 13 seconds in. But they did jump ahead 13 seconds in and they won.

Hockey.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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Someone is going to disagree with me over something but I just don't have the energy. I'm still sick over losing this game. I'm still not over it and I don't even like thinking or reading about it.

If you disagree just say your piece and then re-read my last post for a rebuttal.

 

[5mn_Major]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

BC was every bit as good as Minnesota and Wisconsin this year but was not better on that day. If you played this game 10 times, BC would have won 5.

Wisconsin swept the Gophers in the season opening series this year. They were every bit as good as Minnesota this year but were not on those particular days. If you played those games 10 times Wisconsin would have won 5.

You can disagree with that all you want -- and you have your hardware so congratulations. But when you play one game between two teams that are equals, only one team can win.

The better team does not always win. They were the better team on this day, the day that matteed, but they were not "a better team" than BC over the course of the season. These teams were equals and frankly, yes, this game was closer than a lot of you are letting on. This game plays out differently if the Gophers don't jump ahead 13 seconds in. But they did jump ahead 13 seconds in and they won.

Hockey.

There's no argument from me. I consider this to be a very different discussion from that of the Kaz award. In that, there's specific criteria...where there is a more appropriate answer. Here, its just what you think.

Obviously we have a different point of view as to what exactly happened in that game. Another part of where I'm coming from is that this general Gopher team is 9-1 in its last 10 Froz Four games (with most considering the one loss to be one of the biggest upsets in women's NCAA history). From a Gopher perspective, that's a lot of history to go up against in that game.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

BC was every bit as good as Minnesota and Wisconsin this year but was not better on that day. If you played this game 10 times, BC would have won 5.

Wisconsin swept the Gophers in the season opening series this year. They were every bit as good as Minnesota this year but were not on those particular days. If you played those games 10 times Wisconsin would have won 5.

You can disagree with that all you want -- and you have your hardware so congratulations. But when you play one game between two teams that are equals, only one team can win.

The better team does not always win. They were the better team on this day, the day that matteed, but they were not "a better team" than BC over the course of the season. These teams were equals and frankly, yes, this game was closer than a lot of you are letting on. This game plays out differently if the Gophers don't jump ahead 13 seconds in. But they did jump ahead 13 seconds in and they won.

Hockey.

Yup, from an offensive talent on paper viewpoint.
Nope, from a team defense and competitive game experience standpoint.

 

[EastFan1]

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BC would have lost to Wisconsin and the proof of that is in the 6 games Wisconsin played against Minnesota.

Once Kessel came back, Wisconsin was 1 - 3 with -5 goal differential.

 

[ARM]

Re: BC Women's Hockey, 2015-2016: Embrace The Cupcake Diet

How do fans think 2015-16 BC compared to the Eagles from the season before? Obviously the results were better than in 2014-15, but it isn't clear to me whether that is because BC improved or the two teams that caused problems, BU and Harvard, were worse. Clearly, the second part of that is true, as neither came close to its ranking of the prior season. The biggest gain was likely the addition of Newkirk and the extra year of experience for the freshmen who became sophomores, but Pfalzer, Field, and Leary were gone. As with the Minnesota vs Wisconsin vs BC question, there is no definitive answer.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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How do fans think 2015-16 BC compared to the Eagles from the season before? Obviously the results were better than in 2014-15, but it isn't clear to me whether that is because BC improved or the two teams that caused problems, BU and Harvard, were worse.

I think early '15-'16 BC was not as good as '14-'15 BC, but end of season '15-'16 BC was better than '14-'15 BC. This year's team, I think, developed much better over the course of the season and was better once all was said and done.

O'Leary

Ha