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Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

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Yeah, which is why saying they're trained to be ready for anything is, pardon the pun, a cop out. Their training should not make them so itchy that they shoot first and ask questions later (Cleveland), or escalate a situation that had no reason to be violent (Garner).

If their excuse is "that's what I was trained to do" then maybe we need to seriously consider overhauling their training.
Agree in CLE, disagree in StL.

The NY case (not the assassination; referring to the robbery) is a whole 'nother animal in this discussion.
 
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In a cell phone recording by John Houghtaling, New York state trooper—identified as Officer Rosenblatt—threatens to find a way for the DA’s office to arrest Houghtaling if he didn’t stop recording.



As Officer Rosenblatt approaches, Houghtaling asks, “How’s it going?”

Officer Rosenblatt responds, “Put the phone down.”

“Put the phone down… why?” asks Houghtaling.

“Because I said so.”

“Am I not allowed to record, Officer?”

Officer Rosenblatt does not directly respond, but rather blocks the view of the camera with his hand, and begins to order Houghtaling to open his window. Houghtaling assures the officer he can hear him just fine as the officer continues to insist he roll his window down. When Houghtaling asks for his badge number, Rosenblatt refuses to respond.

Finally, Houghtaling asks, “Am I being detained?”

Officer Rosenblatt replies, “I’m stopping you for a traffic violation, open your window and give me your license and registration.”

Houghtaling responds accordingly, and immediately begins to retrieve the requested paperwork.

As Houghtaling gets into his glove-box, Officer Rosenblatt asks, “Are you the same one who thought it was a good idea to come in my station and videotape us for some reason?”

“Am I legally obligated to answer that question?” Houghtaling asks.

Officer Rosenblatt merely stares at him for a few seconds before saying, “How about if I see you post this on Youtube, I’ll find a way for the DA’s office to arrest you.”
 
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While there are certainly some undesirable outcomes in the tens of millions of interactions between cops and citizens every year, IMO cherry picking the worst of them gives a false impression. Interesting criminal case from Chicago. Cop is on trial for using beanbag rounds to subdue a 95-year old man. The old guy subsequently died. What's somewhat noteworthy here is the officer is black, the old man was white. Although race is apparently not part of the case. Somehow it just seems that young fit cops should be able to subdue a guy nearing 100 without killing him.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...anbag-shooting-trial-0114-20150113-story.html
 
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He's lucky he's white. He would have been dead.

So one more person figures it out. I guess if the cops keep it up, one by one eventually everybody will.

They serve us; we do not serve them.

There is no longer such a thing as checks and balances. Especially when, if these cases ever go to court, the prosecution is prosecuting themselves.
 
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Only a matter of time before it becomes a crime to film an officer committing a crime.
 
Only a matter of time before it becomes a crime to film an officer committing a crime.

One of the south shore towns in mass here maybe 8yrs ago some guy got pulled over and turned his phone on to record. Cops hassled him and when he release the information showing his innocence he got in trouble for just that :D
 
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One of the south shore towns in mass here maybe 8yrs ago some guy got pulled over and turned his phone on to record. Cops hassled him and when he release the information showing his innocence he got in trouble for just that :D

Power corrupts. Why do the reflexive apologists for bad cops forget this?
 
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On average year-to-date, a cop sends someone to an early grave once every eight hours. And we aren't counting death row inmates, either.
 
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