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2024 Election Thread

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...Trump has an uphill battle that will be exasperated by having zero competition in the Primaries. Biden on his worse day is better than all the clowns running against Trump. (this is why my SO is convinced Trump will refuse to debate Biden)

Trump will refuse most or all debates because he doesn't gain anything from participating anymore. Hillary tried to ignore him and let him ramble, but Biden confronted him and punched back. When Trump wouldn't stop interrupting during the first 2020 debate, and Biden firmly told Trump to shut up, that was the turning point of Trump agreeing to debates. In the cobwebs of his mind, he has no concept of a debate having structure and rules; he just wants to holler and bully. Just like Obama at that WHC dinner years ago, it frosted his fat a55 that he got pimp-slapped by Biden on national TV. The tone of the second debate (originally intended to be the third debate) was a lot meeker from his side. He was seething, he did not want to be there, and it showed.
 
Trump will refuse most or all debates because he doesn't gain anything from participating anymore. Hillary tried to ignore him and let him ramble, but Biden confronted him and punched back. When Trump wouldn't stop interrupting during the first 2020 debate, and Biden firmly told Trump to shut up, that was the turning point of Trump agreeing to debates. In the cobwebs of his mind, he has no concept of a debate having structure and rules; he just wants to holler and bully. Just like Obama at that WHC dinner years ago, it frosted his fat a55 that he got pimp-slapped by Biden on national TV. The tone of the second debate (originally intended to be the third debate) was a lot meeker from his side. He was seething, he did not want to be there, and it showed.

Yes, all of this. Dump not debating is just the natural extension of RWNJ hosts delaying/muting mics on critics. The Right can't handle criticism or an open marketplace of ideas. Without complete control of the venue they are exposed as incapable of argument and void of any substance beyond their followers' revenge fantasies.
 
Trump will refuse most or all debates because he doesn't gain anything from participating anymore. Hillary tried to ignore him and let him ramble, but Biden confronted him and punched back. When Trump wouldn't stop interrupting during the first 2020 debate, and Biden firmly told Trump to shut up, that was the turning point of Trump agreeing to debates. In the cobwebs of his mind, he has no concept of a debate having structure and rules; he just wants to holler and bully. Just like Obama at that WHC dinner years ago, it frosted his fat a55 that he got pimp-slapped by Biden on national TV. The tone of the second debate (originally intended to be the third debate) was a lot meeker from his side. He was seething, he did not want to be there, and it showed.

I don't disagree he won't want to, I dont see any way he doesn't at least do one though. He isn't winning if all he does is rallies and I am not even sure Fox will let him have a townhall if he backs out of their debate those make them a lot of cash. Again he isn't negotiating from a position of strength and it will look doubly bad if he looks afraid to debate a guy he mocks for being mentally incompetent.
 
I don't disagree he won't want to, I dont see any way he doesn't at least do one though. He isn't winning if all he does is rallies and I am not even sure Fox will let him have a townhall if he backs out of their debate those make them a lot of cash. Again he isn't negotiating from a position of strength and it will look doubly bad if he looks afraid to debate a guy he mocks for being mentally incompetent.

I legitimately wonder if Dump realizes that he needs to actually needs to pick up votes. And that if he understands that a majority of people see the authoritarian rhetoric and the lack of intelligence as a downside to him.

Like does he truly believe that he has a 70/30 split on the voting population that's in his favor? He lives in the ultimate echo chamber, so I doubt he has a true sense of what reality actually is.
 
I legitimately wonder if Dump realizes that he needs to actually needs to pick up votes. And that if he understands that a majority of people see the authoritarian rhetoric and the lack of intelligence as a downside to him.

Like does he truly believe that he has a 70/30 split on the voting population that's in his favor? He lives in the ultimate echo chamber, so I doubt he has a true sense of what reality actually is.

Dump knows nothing and never did. He is a bowling ball. He has no ability to think. He won because he was the correct vessel for angry vicious losers to pour their resentment into, and that is why none of the considerations in this thread matter.

Dump is not a political figure, and political calculations do not factor. He is the id of white, uneducated, slovenly, cowardly America. That id is more fundamental than all our political or sociological ideas. If you want to understand Dump, the effective approach is to consider how to treat mental illness, or cultists, or cognitive disorders.
 
There is zero chance there will be a debate between Trump and Biden. He never needed to debate anyone in the GOP side, so why start now?
 
I legitimately wonder if Dump realizes that he needs to actually needs to pick up votes. And that if he understands that a majority of people see the authoritarian rhetoric and the lack of intelligence as a downside to him.

Like does he truly believe that he has a 70/30 split on the voting population that's in his favor? He lives in the ultimate echo chamber, so I doubt he has a true sense of what reality actually is.

Yes. He truly believes that most Americans are on his side, but are being either held down or silenced by the evil woke libt@rd minority.
 
Dump knows nothing and never did. He is a bowling ball. He has no ability to think. He won because he was the correct vessel for angry vicious losers to pour their resentment into, and that is why none of the considerations in this thread matter.

Dump is not a political figure, and political calculations do not factor. He is the id of white, uneducated, slovenly, cowardly America. That id is more fundamental than all our political or sociological ideas. If you want to understand Dump, the effective approach is to consider how to treat mental illness, or cultists, or cognitive disorders.

Then why don't you just trust the math and let him live in his echo chamber?

"Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake!"

I'm starting to think that people on the Left get off on fear-mongering like the people on the right do.

I'm not sating that the D's should let off the gas. But just let the Orange Moron do his thing and basically ignore him. It's his lackey's at the state level or in congress that are going to do electoral damage (most likely Voter Suppression). Go after them with the aggressive campaigns. You can basically let Cheeto do the work for ya by just letting him talk and then put those soundbites in the ad campaign.
 
Then why don't you just trust the math and let him live in his echo chamber?

"Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake!"

I'm starting to think that people on the Left get off on fear-mongering like the people on the right do.

I'm not sating that the D's should let off the gas. But just let the Orange Moron do his thing and basically ignore him. It's his lackey's at the state level or in congress that are going to do electoral damage (most likely Voter Suppression). Go after them with the aggressive campaigns. You can basically let Cheeto do the work for ya by just letting him talk and then put those soundbites in the ad campaign.


Because there is no "math." Political calculations make assumptions about the rationality of political actors. But here that is irrelevant.

We like our ideas because they protect us from the irrational. They put a picture frame around real life and soothe us into thinking we have, if not control, at least predictive mechanisms. And because since the Enlightenment, and particularly since the state bureaucratizing of much of mundane life in the 1800s, we actually live a stage removed from real life in a network of rational exchanges, our models hold up okay. They pass the correspondence test: they have a good track record of predictions.

But always, always, always remember: our ideas are not reality. Our sociology and politics and economics, our laws, our religions, even our language, are just stuff we have been reinventing for thousands of years. There is a real world beneath them, and it dwarfs them the way the whole Earth dwarfs its crust. We live in a carefully manicured, artificial environment with street signs and stop lights on the side of a volcano.

Dump is the volcano. Our ideas are not binding on pure human fear, cowardice, malice, and fury. Our math is not meaningful except as a sad attempt to rationalize what happens after the fact.

Surely you didn't think the stuff in your head with straight lines and balanced equations was real? It only explains the natural world of objects we can move around, but the entire essence of humanity -- our Dasein -- is that we rip through the illusion of objects and laugh maniacally. We are Will. We are what happens when you strip away all the desperate attempts to reason.

That's why Dump, and all the Dumps before him, are so intoxicating. There actually is an authenticity in them, although of course it escapes them. It's the absolute freedom of utter irresponsible, irrational I Want.
 
Lmao dementia Donnie says Haley is to blame for Jan 6 because she was in charge of security for the capitol.

almost as embarrassing as that is, it’s not the most embarrassing thing tonight. That belongs to Tim Scott endorsing dementia Donnie
 
Less than 10 months to go in our ongoing rolling national nightmare of the dessicated Trojan Horse fossil "in charge". The repeated projection and gaslighting of the party in power has been unparalelled, that's for sure ... but it's almost over ...


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DeSantis is canceling a Meet the Press appearance and a CNN State of the Union appearance. That can't be a good sign...
 
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