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2024 Election Thread

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Dems just won special election for house seat in Florida

What is the majority now? It can't be much...

Any other year the pundits would be saying all signs point to a Blue Wave coming. Dems overperformed in the Midterms, they overperfirmed in the off year elections and have been crushing in special elections. The economy is humming, unemployment is way down, Inflation is dropping and gas prices are under control. Yet somehow everyone is convinced they already lost we just don't know if yet. All because Biden doesn't give flowery speeches...cause those helped Obama so much.
 
What is the majority now? It can't be much...

Any other year the pundits would be saying all signs point to a Blue Wave coming. Dems overperformed in the Midterms, they overperfirmed in the off year elections and have been crushing in special elections. The economy is humming, unemployment is way down, Inflation is dropping and gas prices are under control. Yet somehow everyone is convinced they already lost we just don't know if yet. All because Biden doesn't give flowery speeches...cause those helped Obama so much.

State house seat, not sure
 
The economy is humming, unemployment is way down, Inflation is dropping and gas prices are under control. Yet somehow everyone is convinced they already lost we just don't know if yet. All because Biden doesn't give flowery speeches...cause those helped Obama so much.

But haven't you heard that he's got a problem with the tankie vote? They're big mad that he went pew-pew on a ragtag band of paramilitary pirates to further global capitalist hegemony and American imperialism! ;-)

Nevermind the other guy on tape quoting Hitler and promising dictatorship and revenge, lookie over here at the latest manufactured distraction.
 
Dems just won special election for house seat in Florida

State house.

Keen, who made abortion rights and property insurance key issues in the race, got between 65% to 70% of nonpartisan, or NPA, voters to make up for Republicans turning out in larger numbers than Democrats, said Matt Isbell, a Democratic elections analyst.

“What actually clinched the win for Democrats was this massive margin with NPAs and perhaps some Republican moderates as well,” Isbell said. “If anything, this should be concerning for the GOP because it indicates a voter anger that maybe they have not understood.”

The special election for the district in eastern Orange and Osceola counties was triggered when former Republican state Rep. Fred Hawkins resigned last year to become president of South Florida State College in Highlands County.

The district has an almost even collection of Democrats, Republicans and independents.

The election was considered a test of whether Florida Democrats will be more competitive in 2024 following their blowout loss to Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2022, which swept in a GOP supermajority in both houses of the Legislature.

“This proves that Democrats can win close races in the Sunshine State,” said state House Democratic Leader Fentrice Driskell, D-Tampa, in a statement. “Florida is worth fighting for … Our work together has just begun.”

Keen canvassed with local Democratic stars U.S. Rep. Maxwell Frost and state Rep. Anna Eskamani, launched an ad targeting the GOP on abortion rights and mailed out flyers attacking Republicans on the property insurance crisis.

Booth, whose website stated that she would “protect our children from indoctrination” and crack down on illegal immigration, was backed by a state GOP campaign slamming Keen as a “radical,” including a website and television ads. Booth did not respond to repeated requests for interviews.

Mysterious text messages also were sent to Democrats from a supposed progressive group claiming Keen agreed with DeSantis on the controversial Parental Rights in Education Act, called ‘don’t say gay’ by its opponents. Keen has been a vocal critic of the law.

The group, Florida Committee for Progressive Values, listed Austin Hurst of Riverlake Boulevard in Bartow, Polk County, as its registered agent, chair and treasurer. According to state records, a Michael Austin Hurst is registered at that address as a Republican.

The Keen campaign compared the texts to the “ghost candidate” scandal of 2020, which involved three independent candidates who ran for competitive state Senate seats.
 
What I find interesting was the Des Moines Register polling on second choices.

Most of DeSantis's voters' second choice was Trump.
Most of Vivek's voter's second choice was Trump (or RFK Jr... ha!)
A majority of Haley's voter's second choice was not Trump.

There is just no pathway for anyone not named Trump. He could die and still win this nomination.

He’s a bus full of Ditkas racing the Indy 500.
 
But haven't you heard that he's got a problem with the tankie vote? They're big mad that he went pew-pew on a ragtag band of paramilitary pirates to further global capitalist hegemony and American imperialism! ;-)

Nevermind the other guy on tape quoting Hitler and promising dictatorship and revenge, lookie over here at the latest manufactured distraction.

Like Obama had a problem with the Centrist Vote which Romney is obviously going to steal...

Then again there is a bunch of nimrods who believe Cornel West is running for the purity of vision and not because he is an egomaniac with tons of debt who can't survive on teaching and Bill Maher appearances so who knows.

On another not Trump is already calling Nikki Haley Nimrata. And Nikki pulled a Tim Scott by saying (in basically consecutive sentences) that "America was never a racist country" and "I endured racism in my life". Of course Tim Scott did thatin seperate speeches not one interview! She is so not ready for prime time.
 
Then again there is a bunch of nimrods who believe Cornel West is running for the purity of vision and not because he is an egomaniac with tons of debt who can't survive on teaching and Bill Maher appearances so who knows.

To be fair, 5 marriages and 4 ex-wives would be enough to sink anyone's finances.
 
Yeah but I could totally see the Onion doing the same thing just wording it a bit different to make Trump the racist not themselves.
 
To be fair, 5 marriages and 4 ex-wives would be enough to sink anyone's finances.

I get the divorces, but not the marriages.

Still, he studied under Nozick and Rorty and picked Rorty. That proves he's smart. The guy is definitely not a fool in his scholarship. I do not understand how he can be such a fool in public. Note this also works with Chomsky.
 
I get the divorces, but not the marriages.

Still, he studied under Nozick and Rorty and picked Rorty. That proves he's smart. The guy is definitely not a fool in his scholarship. I do not understand how he can be such a fool in public. Note this also works with Chomsky.

He is definitely book smart, and I absolutely love hearing him rant sometimes...but he lacks common sense.
 
Look at the Caucus numbers from 2016. Marco Rubio took 3rd with 43k votes. That is double Nikki Haley in the same position. Meanwhile Ted Cruz won with 51k while Trump won this time with 56K. Just to put a bow on it Trump took 2nd in 2016 with 45k pretty much doubling up Ronny in the same spot.

Top 3 vote getters in 2016: 139k votes
Top 3 vote getters in 2024: 100k votes (with some outstanding)

Total votes 2016: 187K
Total votes 2024: 109k

Now there are factors at play like the atrocious weather (seems God isn't happy with the GOP eh) and the fact that everyone knows Trump is going to win but Iowa tends to buck trends. In 2016 Cruz won, in 2012 Santorum won, in 2008 Huckabee won while McCain finished 4th. They don't usually have any problem going against the frontrunner. Trump didn't steal very many votes...so where was everyone?

I am not saying it means anything, but it is something to watch going forward.

As much as I want to agree, we should remember, as you noted, that it was really cold.
 
Well no data point on its own means much...but if you see a depression in vote totals in many of the early primaries then it is something worth noting as a trend and not a very good one if you are a GOP supporter.

It should also be noted that Iowa doesn't make it very hard to vote in their caucus. Want to talk about lack of election security watch some of the videos. My middle school class president election was more secure and that is not even close to hyperbole.
 
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