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2024 Bracketology - The Road to Connecticut

Scott_TG said:
With Plattsburgh winning in OT they've essentially traded their chance at Pool C for home ice for the SUNYAC championship, not that they had any choice in the matter.
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a win is a win. OT does not make a difference, The computer doesn't know it was OT. Not having the 25th regular season game with a D3 game win on the record instead of a win against a D2 opponent that means nothing is what is hurting.
 
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Can someone explain how a Utica win and an Elmira loss bumps Elmira ahead of Utica in the PW? That doesn’t make any sense.
 
WCHornet said:
a win is a win. OT does not make a difference, The computer doesn't know it was OT. Not having the 25th regular season game with a D3 game win on the record instead of a win against a D2 opponent that means nothing is what is hurting.
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Actually, it does. An OT win is worth less than a regular time win thanks to tweaks to PWR. Just like a home win is worth less than a road win.

What I don't know is if this still applies to a playoff OT win, because that format is five-on-five instead of three-on-three.
 
sacole13 said:
Basically the upsets yesterday cause Bethel to replace Augsburg. The rest should stay the same.
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Skidmore also got bumped to First Team Out

CCC: Endicott (16)
MASCAC: Plymouth State (6)
MIAC: Bethel (13)
NCHA: Adrian (2)
NEHC: Hobart (1)
NESCAC: Trinity (3)
SUNYAC: Plattsburgh (8)
UCHC: Utica (5)
WIAC: Stevens Point (9)

At-Large:

Elmira (4)
Geneseo (7)
Curry (10)
St. Norbert (11)

First Four Out:

Skidmore (12)
Stevenson (14)
Hamilton (15)
Norwich (T-16)

OPTION 1:

Round 1:

Bethel @ St Norbert
Geneseo @ Elmira
Endicott @ Trinity
Curry @ Utica
Plattsburgh @ Plymouth State

Quarterfinals:

Plattsburgh/Plymouth State @ Hobart
Geneseo/Elmira @ Adrian
Curry/Utica @ Endicott/Trinity
Bethel/St Norbert @ UW-Stevens Point

OPTION 2:

Round 1:

Bethel @ Adrian
St. Norbert @ Stevens Point
Endicott @ Utica
Curry @ Geneseo
Plattsburgh @ Plymouth State

Quarterfinals:

Curry/Geneseo @ Hobart
St. Norbert/Stevens Point @ Bethel/Adrian
Plattsburgh/Plymouth State @ Trinity
Curry/Utica @ Elmira
 
Russell Jaslow said:
Actually, it does. An OT win is worth less than a regular time win thanks to tweaks to PWR. Just like a home win is worth less than a road win.

What I don't know is if this still applies to a playoff OT win, because that format is five-on-five instead of three-on-three.
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I was looking at the NCAA D3 Pre-Champonships Manual today and in the Pairwise Criteria for Division III it says, "No adjustment to calculation for games decided in overtime." So apparently the OT adjustment is only a Division I thing???
 
SNC SID said:
I was looking at the NCAA D3 Pre-Champonships Manual today and in the Pairwise Criteria for Division III it says, "No adjustment to calculation for games decided in overtime." So apparently the OT adjustment is only a Division I thing???
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That would be a boon to a certain team with 5 OT wins this season.
 
SNC SID said:
I was looking at the NCAA D3 Pre-Champonships Manual today and in the Pairwise Criteria for Division III it says, "No adjustment to calculation for games decided in overtime." So apparently the OT adjustment is only a Division I thing???
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IDK, but what is up with all this tinkering with a nearly perfect (and completely transparent) process?

My opinion: stick with the PW -or the RPI- and quit moving the goalposts.

Makes D-3 look corrupt. And silly.
 
SNC SID said:
I was looking at the NCAA D3 Pre-Champonships Manual today and in the Pairwise Criteria for Division III it says, "No adjustment to calculation for games decided in overtime." So apparently the OT adjustment is only a Division I thing???
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I've been wondering about this. I know all the adjustments are always driven by the D1 men, and it has always bothered me that (apparently) everyone else has to go along with it. But, you seem to have found evidence that is not the case (and I know the D1 women are now using what's called the NPI instead of PWR). I can find out. Let me ask around.
 
SNC SID said:
I was looking at the NCAA D3 Pre-Champonships Manual today and in the Pairwise Criteria for Division III it says, "No adjustment to calculation for games decided in overtime." So apparently the OT adjustment is only a Division I thing???
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That’s news to me. I just looked, and last season’s pre-championship manual did say “overtime calculation adjustment applied.”

The DIII women’s hockey pre-championship manual for THIS season still says “Games decided in overtime will be weighted at a 67/33% ratio.” So apparently this must have been a decision specifically made by the DIII men’s hockey championship committee for this season.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
I've been wondering about this. I know all the adjustments are always driven by the D1 men, and it has always bothered me that (apparently) everyone else has to go along with it. But, you seem to have found evidence that is not the case (and I know the D1 women are now using what's called the NPI instead of PWR). I can find out. Let me ask around.
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And if the D3 calculation truly is different than the D1 calculation, do the USCHO pairwise rankings account for the difference?
 
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