Nowhere does it say "seed each region separately" either.
It does say "the committee will pair the teams regionally, based on geographic location of all participants and final seeding." So actually it does pretty much say that.
Nowhere does it say "seed each region separately" either.
...has it really come to this...? (asking for a friend)![]()
It does say "the committee will pair the teams regionally, based on geographic location of all participants and final seeding." So actually it does pretty much say that.
So after an entire day of "debate" you finally get to this after Webb pointed out the absurdity of giving Norwich a bye? Norwich is playing the lowest seeded team in the tournament and then has a week off. I fail to see where there is a legitimate complaint.
If you go way back the reason the 500 mile rule exists is because before it did schools who had to fly would pay their own way to fly in a championship as a tradeoff for increased tournament access. Rule was created so schools wouldn't be stuck with the bill for a flight to play one game. Paying for a flight for some schools could be burdensome. This is the trade-off and not a bad one at that. If you don't like it, take it up with the Division III Management Council. I'm sure they'd be happy to educate you further. Unless of course you have no interest in understanding how most of this works.
"The sky has clouds", See it really does say that it's blue!
Somebody is hard-done by the system in every sport every year. This year, it was Norwich. Last year, it was Plattsburgh in many people's opinions. Remember that time St. Norbert had to play a first-rounder as the #1 seed because SOMEBODY had to play Adrian? Or the time Plattsburgh had to "host" Trinity in Connecticut because the Women's team was too good? Or the time the Saints had to travel to the 7-9 Seahawks because of an arbitrary divisional structure? I could go on and on, but I think you get the point. There are too many variables at play in sports playoffs for everybody nobody to get screwed.
Don't shoot the messenger. I've read the NCAA handbook for the tournament online. Have you?
Amen...Saturday can't come fast enough...Somebody is hard-done by the system in every sport every year. This year, it was Norwich. Last year, it was Plattsburgh in many people's opinions. Remember that time St. Norbert had to play a first-rounder as the #1 seed because SOMEBODY had to play Adrian? Or the time Plattsburgh had to "host" Trinity in Connecticut because the Women's team was too good? Or the time the Saints had to travel to the 7-9 Seahawks because of an arbitrary divisional structure? I could go on and on, but I think you get the point. There are too many variables at play in sports playoffs for everybody nobody to get screwed.
Yes, (page 16) and your quote does not indicate that the regions should be seeded separately, despite your "pretty much".
The thing is, people get fleeced in any system where the seeding is subjective - which is every NCAA tournament as far as I'm aware. Whether we're talking about the billion-dollar business of DI football or cash-strapped DIII hockey, someone always feels like they're getting hosed.
I was watching Mike & Mike this morning when they talked about how Monmouth got screwed in their conference basketball tournament. As the #1 seed they had to play a true road game at tournament host #4 seed Sienna simply because Sienna sells more tickets. And Monmouth lost. That puts into perspective the minor complaints we have about seeding and the system, which while perhaps irksome are rational and logical. I believe that generally speaking most people involved in DIII athletics have the best interests of the student-athletes, the schools, and their respective sports in mind. We should be thankful we don't have to deal with the blatant corruption and hypocrisy that is DI.
Which I also completely agree with. Glad to hear someone say it.They (Mike & Mike) also talked about how the automatic bid to the tournament should not go to the conference tournament winner, but to the regular season champion......just saying.![]()
They (Mike & Mike) also talked about how the automatic bid to the tournament should not go to the conference tournament winner, but to the regular season champion......just saying.![]()
But that's completely up to the individual conferences. That's not the NCAA's fault that they all pick the tournament champion. Even the Ivy League finally caved and is having a four-team tournament this year, which I'm not sure whether Mike & Mike were aware of or not...
In some cases, this is the only way some conferences can get two teams into the tourney.
LOL! I was driving and arrived at my destination, so only heard the first 60 seconds or so of the discussion. Like I said.....just saying.They actually did bring up the Ivy League. Greeney said that the Ivy League was the only one to do it right, unaware that they did change this year, upon which he was corrected and said "Even the Ivy League, with their trillion dollar endowments, caved to the cash-grab of conference tournaments."
Agree as well.Which I also completely agree with. Glad to hear someone say it.