2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

[CrankIt]

Re: 2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

Madison Packer told a story on a recent UND at UW webcast about a coach dropping Ann-Renee Desbiens off with her and having to help her get immersed in her new life in Madison with Desbiens possessing very limited command of English. I'd imagine that new teammates are the first stop for most of the questions involving language or anything else that they need in day-to-day life. It has probably been easier in Duluth because there are so many other players that are or have been in the same predicament.

To spend an extended amount of time with the team, it's incredible, really the way they all interact. At any one time you could be hearing conversations in 4, 5, 6 different languages happening. It's all fun for everyone. They're teaching each other new words, new phrases, talking about their home countries. I recall hearing a conversation in German between 3 players from 3 different countries. They all spoke German but different dialects of it. They would all start talking and laughing and then one would get confused because her dialect didn't translate exactly to the other two dialects. It's great really to see them form bonds over learning things about each other that aren't superficial

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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To spend an extended amount of time with the team, it's incredible, really the way they all interact. At any one time you could be hearing conversations in 4, 5, 6 different languages happening. It's all fun for everyone. They're teaching each other new words, new phrases, talking about their home countries. I recall hearing a conversation in German between 3 players from 3 different countries. They all spoke German but different dialects of it. They would all start talking and laughing and then one would get confused because her dialect didn't translate exactly to the other two dialects. It's great really to see them form bonds over learning things about each other that aren't superficial

That is fantastic

 

[pokechecker]

Re: 2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

For those referring to the lack of recruitment of European players by Coach Miller, it is widely known that the recruiting budget and overall budget was drastically slashed when Chancellor Martin retired. There is also an extreme lack of cooperation in the admissions department getting the European players the tools they need to be accepted into the school. For multiple kids to miss passing their writing test by ONE point and the university forceing them to wait an entire year instead of coming up with a solution shows a lack of interest in women's hockey by the administration. One of the reasons this years freshman class is so large is because a few of those players were supposed to join the team last year but could not because of test scores.

try reading your own post, but without rose colored glasses
see it now?

 

[Plante26]

For those referring to the lack of recruitment of European players by Coach Miller, it is widely known that the recruiting budget and overall budget was drastically slashed when Chancellor Martin retired. There is also an extreme lack of cooperation in the admissions department getting the European players the tools they need to be accepted into the school. For multiple kids to miss passing their writing test by ONE point and the university forceing them to wait an entire year instead of coming up with a solution shows a lack of interest in women's hockey by the administration. One of the reasons this years freshman class is so large is because a few of those players were supposed to join the team last year but could not because of test scores.

Your insinuation that admissions standards should be bent or broken to facilitate the eligibility of a student-athlete is rather disturbing.

 

[ne7minder]

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Your insinuation that admissions standards should be bent or broken to facilitate the eligibility of a student-athlete is rather disturbing.

Yeah, that NEVER happens in D-I sports!

 

[CrankIt]

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Your insinuation that admissions standards should be bent or broken to facilitate the eligibility of a student-athlete is rather disturbing.

I'm merely implying that the admissions department take a look at the academic history of European players in the program. They consistently perform better than the Americans and Canadians off the ice. Test scores have never proven to be a good measure of the depth of knowledge anyone, athlete or otherwise, possesses.

 

[Plante26]

I'm merely implying that the admissions department take a look at the academic history of European players in the program. They consistently perform better than the Americans and Canadians off the ice. Test scores have never proven to be a good measure of the depth of knowledge anyone, athlete or otherwise, possesses.

So we should direct the admissions department to make assumptions about a student-athlete's classroom success based on the track record of past athletes with a shared nationality?

Yikes.

I'm sure that doesn't violate any federal/state laws or NCAA regulations.

 

[CrankIt]

So we should direct the admissions department to make assumptions about a student-athlete's classroom success based on the track record of past athletes with a shared nationality?

Yikes.

I'm sure that doesn't violate any federal/state laws or NCAA regulations.

My original comment merely suggests that the American education system stop determining the intelligence of students based on meaningless test scores that have no real, applicable use outside of said test. Also, most of the UMD athletes who don't get in to UMD right away, end up taking classes at UMTC for a semester and then transfer those credits over. If UMTC lets these students in, what's stopping UMD from letting them in? More than likely speaks to a larger issue happening in the administration which is what this whole debacle has been about.

 

[brookyone]

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My original comment merely suggests that the American education system stop determining the intelligence of students based on meaningless test scores that have no real, applicable use outside of said test. Also, most of the UMD athletes who don't get in to UMD right away, end up taking classes at UMTC for a semester and then transfer those credits over. If UMTC lets these students in, what's stopping UMD from letting them in? More than likely speaks to a larger issue happening in the administration which is what this whole debacle has been about.

Isn't it pertinent to consider that the bulk of student athletes manage to navigate admissions and satisfy admissions requirements just fine?

 

[CrankIt]

Isn't it pertinent to consider that the bulk of student athletes manage to navigate admissions and satisfy admissions requirements just fine?

Which is exactly my point... The only program getting extra difficulty from admissions is the women's hockey team. I've heard of student athletes from other sports being admitted with a 16 on their ACT. You basically get a 16 just by filling in the bubble for your name the right way. I have yet to see any one from a different team's point of view comment on how it's also difficult for their international athletes to gain admission into their school.

 

[pokechecker]

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My original comment merely suggests that the American education system stop determining the intelligence of students based on meaningless test scores that have no real, applicable use outside of said test. Also, most of the UMD athletes who don't get in to UMD right away, end up taking classes at UMTC for a semester and then transfer those credits over. If UMTC lets these students in, what's stopping UMD from letting them in? More than likely speaks to a larger issue happening in the administration which is what this whole debacle has been about.

just about anybody can register for a class as a non degree seeking student, I believe having been out out of school for 4-5 years and have a HS education allows you to
my guess is that they take classes at UM-TC because there are more classes to chose from, easier to find a suitable job, and greater opportunities during free time
and oh yeah, the TC area has so much nicer weather (or so people who used to live in Duluth claim although the recent weather says otherwise)

meaningless test scores??? for one, the test scores are excellent indicators of SES, IOW, high test score=high family income, the kid comes from a family with money, never forget it is about the money, especially with the high cost of college today

 

[Blackbeard]

Re: 2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

You'd figure Grgas Wheeler would get this stuff right...it's not like this information is a secret or not readily accessible thereby preventing her from proof reading her story.

Winberg scored the winning goal in Turin in '06 which sent the Americans packing and advanced Sweden to the Gold Medal Game.

Did somebody mention misinformation being spread at universities?

http://www.umdbulldogs.com/news/2014/12/19/WHOCKEY_1219141647.aspx?path=whockey

 

[ARM]

Re: 2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

Winberg scored the winning goal in Turin in '06 which sent the Americans packing and advanced Sweden to the Gold Medal Game.

Winberg scored first and Rooth scored second, but because her goal clinched the win, Rooth was credited with the winning goal in the 2-0 shootout win for Sweden. It seemed screwy to me, but apparently that's how they do it.

 

[Blackbeard]

Re: 2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

Winberg scored first and Rooth scored second, but because her goal clinched the win, Rooth was credited with the winning goal in the 2-0 shootout win for Sweden. It seemed screwy to me, but apparently that's how they do it.

Yeah, Winberg gets no respect in this video...doesn't even show her winning goal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRDVjbsli0Q
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And she barely gets a mention in this article...

http://www.iihf.com/iihf-home/the-iihf/100-year-anniversary/100-top-stories/story-35/
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But a couple of interesting photos for WHCA and Team USA fans during those games:... no, from Sochi, (photos shouldn't be on this site...oh, well, enjoy anyway) :


http://www.olympic.org/multimedia-p...e-games-united-states-womens-ice-hockey-team/


http://www.olympic.org/multimedia-p...games-united-states-womens-ice-hockey-team-2/

 

[Blackbeard]

Re: 2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

BSU 3 - UMD 1 after two.

BSU with a late goal in the first. Then Hickel in the second with a disallowed goal and then one that counted to tie the game.

BSU employing the old UND defensive strategy of 5 years ago or so when UMD was controlling the puck in BSU's end.

Gorgeous stretch pass by BSU to spring a forward with a breakaway who didn't have any trouble netting the opportunity.

Then shorthanded for too many men!!!...UMD pays the price and it's 3-1 but the momentum was mostly UMD's in the 2nd but that doesn't show on the scoreboard.

No Hansen...a new crew, play by play and colour commentators...very energetic...refreshing.

 

[Blackbeard]

Re: 2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

BSU 4 - UMD 1 final.

Mowatt was solid and the 'Dogs couldn't score.

 

[CrankIt]

BSU 4 - UMD 1 final.

Mowatt was solid and the 'Dogs couldn't score.

I thought UMD outplayed BSU the entire game. The Beavers just got the bounces but that's the way they play. Gopher fans would say they got all the bounces in their series as well. UMD didn't have all of their players back from international competition until Friday afternoon so their first real action all together in 34 days was today's game. They just need a few more days to really get back together. I would expect better chemistry and flow tomorrow

 

[Blackbeard]

Re: 2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

UMD didn't have all of their players back from international competition until Friday afternoon so their first real action all together in 34 days was today's game. They just need a few more days to really get back together. I would expect better chemistry and flow tomorrow

Yeah, I didn't realize this until Miller mentioned it in the video interview that I posted in the "Miller Out at UMD" thread which interview contained some other interesting comments as well about the team.

I thought this was a somewhat more entertaining game than the UW-UM game on the bigger little screen.

 

[ARM]

Re: 2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

The Beavers just got the bounces but that's the way they play. Gopher fans would say they got all the bounces in their series as well.

I don't know that I'd say that. One goal in each was a bit of a bounce, and UM did have a goal waved off in the tie that may have been a BSU break. So BSU got a couple of bounce goals against UM, but so did the Bulldogs. However, the Gophers got a few breaks, too with things that could have been called and weren't and they did get some PP opportunities. The Beavers played a very aggressive style against the Gophers and their defensive play was excellent. They aren't the most talented team and won't have the most dynamic offense, but they will work hard and be opportunistic.

 

[NMH]

Re: 2014-2015 University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs Womens Hockey

UMD didn't have all of their players back from international competition until Friday afternoon so their first real action all together in 34 days was today's game.

Anyone know why this is? I know UW got their Canadian players back from Nations Cup on like the 5th.