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2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
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Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
13.5 is AFAIK below the NCAA minimum for a Frozen Four.
I disagree, it would be completely horrible. Notwithstanding the impact on capacity, it also wrecks sightlines in the cutoff area
13.5 is AFAIK below the NCAA minimum for a Frozen Four.
moose97
New member
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
As noted, standing room. Also, the UC underwent a big renovation of the 300 level before last season, and official capacity was reduced from the long-standing 20,500 to the presently listed 19,717:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Center#300_Level_Renovations
scroll up where it notes, even this year, that the 'Hawks drew 22,309 to a game vs. Detroit...
As noted, standing room. Also, the UC underwent a big renovation of the 300 level before last season, and official capacity was reduced from the long-standing 20,500 to the presently listed 19,717:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Center#300_Level_Renovations
scroll up where it notes, even this year, that the 'Hawks drew 22,309 to a game vs. Detroit...
waterlover
Repeat?
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
Its expected that they'll announce 2013, 2014 and 2015 in the next 3-6 weeks but I also remember hearing about a year ago that they were going to announce it by October 2009. (but have no idea where I heard that from)
Its expected that they'll announce 2013, 2014 and 2015 in the next 3-6 weeks but I also remember hearing about a year ago that they were going to announce it by October 2009. (but have no idea where I heard that from)
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
Usually they announce the bidding venues first.
Usually they announce the bidding venues first.
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Raleigh doesnt have the hotels or "other attractions" needed to host an event like this...
Tickets however would be easy to get for fans willing to travel to NC. The novelty of hockey is wearing off and attendance is WAY down in Carolina.
What school or conference would be "hosting" in Raleigh? Closest schools:
Princeton 458 miles
Miami University 558 miles
Raleigh doesnt have the hotels or "other attractions" needed to host an event like this...
Tickets however would be easy to get for fans willing to travel to NC. The novelty of hockey is wearing off and attendance is WAY down in Carolina.
What school or conference would be "hosting" in Raleigh? Closest schools:
Princeton 458 miles
Miami University 558 miles
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
Duke and the All Cash Conference, of which BC is a member.
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
The arena's in the middle of nowhere. I went to a Hurricane game a couple years ago, never even saw Raleigh. However, having Ric Flair "Wooo" after ever goal would be a nice addition.
The arena's in the middle of nowhere. I went to a Hurricane game a couple years ago, never even saw Raleigh. However, having Ric Flair "Wooo" after ever goal would be a nice addition.
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
He has sold that "Wooooo" now any team can have it; if the price is right...
He has sold that "Wooooo" now any team can have it; if the price is right...
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Interesting...He must really need to pay for all of his wives.
I wonder how much it sells for...
Interesting...He must really need to pay for all of his wives.
I wonder how much it sells for...
nbetweennownthen
Beach bum
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
Raleigh is not as easy to get to as you may think for travel, unless you're along I-95 /85. The novelty of hockey is most certainly NOT wearing off here in NC- the Albany River Rats are moving to Charlotte next season. People aren't following the Canes this year because they stink on ice.
If you're going to put it anywhere in the state of North Carolina, it would be Charlotte. Easy access from Douglas Airport into downtown (easier than Raleigh, at least)...plenty of hotels in the downtown area, walking distance from Time Warner Cable Arena...and TWC-A is only 5 years old and is a better facility for hockey than RBC Center, IMO. It's a much more bustling town than Raleigh- more to do in the downtown area...
Add to that, US Airways' primary southern hub is Charlotte-Douglas, and it's an easy flight in from nearly anywhere in the country.
Raleigh is not as easy to get to as you may think for travel, unless you're along I-95 /85. The novelty of hockey is most certainly NOT wearing off here in NC- the Albany River Rats are moving to Charlotte next season. People aren't following the Canes this year because they stink on ice.
If you're going to put it anywhere in the state of North Carolina, it would be Charlotte. Easy access from Douglas Airport into downtown (easier than Raleigh, at least)...plenty of hotels in the downtown area, walking distance from Time Warner Cable Arena...and TWC-A is only 5 years old and is a better facility for hockey than RBC Center, IMO. It's a much more bustling town than Raleigh- more to do in the downtown area...
Add to that, US Airways' primary southern hub is Charlotte-Douglas, and it's an easy flight in from nearly anywhere in the country.
hockeyplayer1015
Capt
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
I will amend my statement to wearing off in Raleigh Agreed that Charlotte is a better choice- I have been to may Checkers games, dating back to Independence Arena and it seems to be a better college type atmosphere. I am sure that they can talk Michael Jordan into giving up a weekend of Bobcats games if the price is right.
If somehow they can get USAirways to sponsor the event, whats the line on a Sully Sullengerberger appearance? I am sure they have contractual rights to drag him out for appearances even in his retirement.
I will amend my statement to wearing off in Raleigh Agreed that Charlotte is a better choice- I have been to may Checkers games, dating back to Independence Arena and it seems to be a better college type atmosphere. I am sure that they can talk Michael Jordan into giving up a weekend of Bobcats games if the price is right.
If somehow they can get USAirways to sponsor the event, whats the line on a Sully Sullengerberger appearance? I am sure they have contractual rights to drag him out for appearances even in his retirement.
GB Puck Fan
It's A Great Day For Hockey
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
While I'm not sure I like the NC idea, I'm sure a host can be found. One of the Alaskas hosted in Anaheim.
I like the idea of the "usuals" - Boston, St. Paul, Milwaukee. I thought DC was great. Other scattered MW and NE cities are good. These things to Tampa, Anaheim and even STL - outside college hockey country don't make lots of sense to me. Especially with big arenas within the footprint wanting to host.
That said, I like Chicago...
While I'm not sure I like the NC idea, I'm sure a host can be found. One of the Alaskas hosted in Anaheim.
I like the idea of the "usuals" - Boston, St. Paul, Milwaukee. I thought DC was great. Other scattered MW and NE cities are good. These things to Tampa, Anaheim and even STL - outside college hockey country don't make lots of sense to me. Especially with big arenas within the footprint wanting to host.
That said, I like Chicago...
STATEdude3
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Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
I agree with the usuals, but I disagree about STL and CHI. The Frozen Four needs to be THE EVENT in town. That is the only way the Frozen Four seems to turn out as "successful". The city of St. Louis was absorbed in Frozen Four madness in 2007 and I thought that was great, even in an unconventional location. I feel like college hockey would not even be a blip on the radar in Chicago.
I agree with the usuals, but I disagree about STL and CHI. The Frozen Four needs to be THE EVENT in town. That is the only way the Frozen Four seems to turn out as "successful". The city of St. Louis was absorbed in Frozen Four madness in 2007 and I thought that was great, even in an unconventional location. I feel like college hockey would not even be a blip on the radar in Chicago.
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
I've got news for you, you probably wouldn't like a FF in Boston much either. It'd be going on at the beginning of the Red Sox season when nothing else matters in the minds of everyone around here.
I've got news for you, you probably wouldn't like a FF in Boston much either. It'd be going on at the beginning of the Red Sox season when nothing else matters in the minds of everyone around here.
STATEdude3
Registered User
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
I was not at 98 or 04, but I would think the 4 beanpot schools would carry enough weight to make that a successful city for the games. There is local media and a sizable fan base for college hockey. That doesnt exist in Chicago.
I was not at 98 or 04, but I would think the 4 beanpot schools would carry enough weight to make that a successful city for the games. There is local media and a sizable fan base for college hockey. That doesnt exist in Chicago.
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
The local media won't care in any major city...They have too much other stuff to care about. Chicago will have the 'Hawks, Bulls, Cubs and Sox. That'll be about all the time they'll have for sports. New York/Jersey will have the Knicks, Nets, Yankees, Mets, Rangers, Devils, and Islanders competing for your time.
A lot of these cities will have no local angle and probably won't care. If you go to more of a mid-market sized city, with less going on, you'll get more media exposure as they'll have more time for you because there's less going on. Kansas City may be an excellent choice on this factor. They're wanting something in the Sprint Center. You'll create a media buzz showing how you see out every arena the game is played in and you've got a media hook.
The local media won't care in any major city...They have too much other stuff to care about. Chicago will have the 'Hawks, Bulls, Cubs and Sox. That'll be about all the time they'll have for sports. New York/Jersey will have the Knicks, Nets, Yankees, Mets, Rangers, Devils, and Islanders competing for your time.
A lot of these cities will have no local angle and probably won't care. If you go to more of a mid-market sized city, with less going on, you'll get more media exposure as they'll have more time for you because there's less going on. Kansas City may be an excellent choice on this factor. They're wanting something in the Sprint Center. You'll create a media buzz showing how you see out every arena the game is played in and you've got a media hook.
Terrierbyassociation
Fight Cancer, Wherever You Find It
Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites
That's really not true. They did it in St. Louis and even though there was nothing going on in that city at all, no one knew what was going on. So no. I don't want it in Kansas City. The media didn't care, the city didn't care and most of the populace didn't even know it was happening. That all goes directly against your opinion that a mid sized city should have it. MSG would sell out the event and people would go. Problem is logistics.
That's really not true. They did it in St. Louis and even though there was nothing going on in that city at all, no one knew what was going on. So no. I don't want it in Kansas City. The media didn't care, the city didn't care and most of the populace didn't even know it was happening. That all goes directly against your opinion that a mid sized city should have it. MSG would sell out the event and people would go. Problem is logistics.
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