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2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

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Rover said:
I'm going to watch either PBS or the BBC. CNN is in the toilet right now as far as analysis goes and no point in watching Fox or MSNBC until after the thing is decided for pure comedy potential.
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Even better will be watching The Daily Show and The Colbert Report tonight and in the upcoming days.

Of course, they'll mostly focus on the absurdity at Fox, but it'll still be a nice to way to condense it down for you so you don't have to waste too much time watching those idiots on Fox and MSNBC. Sort of like watching The Soup so you can make fun of whatever stupid shows your wife watches without actually having to watch them.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Even better will be watching The Daily Show and The Colbert Report tonight and in the upcoming days.

Of course, they'll mostly focus on the absurdity at Fox, but it'll still be a nice to way to condense it down for you so you don't have to waste too much time watching those idiots on Fox and MSNBC. Sort of like watching The Soup so you can make fun of whatever stupid shows your wife watches without actually having to watch them.
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Stewart's been skewering CNN just as often as Fox lately.
 
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Assuming Obama does win, will he spend the next four years talking about the mess he inherited from whomever was President from 2009 - 2012? :rolleyes:


After all, whomever is sworn in next January will have some really daunting challenges to face because whomever was President from 2009 - 2012 did nothing to address them during that time!
 
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FreshFish said:
Assuming Obama does win, will he spend the next four years talking about the mess he inherited from whomever was President from 2009 - 2012? :rolleyes:


After all, whomever is sworn in next January will have some really daunting challenges to face because whomever was President from 2009 - 2012 did nothing to address them during that time!
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Remember, though, the good stuff that's happened in 2009-2012 is all to Obama's credit. All the bad stuff is due to what he inherited. And to think some people buy into it!
 
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In looking at the toss-up states (CO, FL, IA, NH, OH, VA, WI), I can easily imagine Obama only taking OH and NH, which would give Romney the presidency. Maybe I need to actually pay attention to whatever polls are out there for the rest of the toss-up states, but I'm not buying the idea that Obama has that clear of a path to victory. A lot of things need to happen for Romney to win, but they aren't exactly unrealistic things.

FreshFish said:
Assuming Obama does win, will he spend the next four years talking about the mess he inherited from whomever was President from 2009 - 2012? :rolleyes:
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*Foolishly takes this seriously*

He'll probably just rely on the crutch he's been using for a long time: "It coulda been worse".
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
He'll probably just rely on the crutch he's been using for a long time: "It coulda been worse".
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For some reason, you just reminded me of Voltaire's Candide: "This is the best of all possible worlds."











which of course is a tautology since as far as we are concerned it is the only possible world!
 
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Why is it that the most competitive states seem to have the most problems with their voting systems? It's not like they haven't had many years to improve things.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
In looking at the toss-up states (CO, FL, IA, NH, OH, VA, WI), I can easily imagine Obama only taking OH and NH, which would give Romney the presidency. Maybe I need to actually pay attention to whatever polls are out there for the rest of the toss-up states, but I'm not buying the idea that Obama has that clear of a path to victory. A lot of things need to happen for Romney to win, but they aren't exactly unrealistic things.

*Foolishly takes this seriously*

He'll probably just rely on the crutch he's been using for a long time: "It coulda been worse".
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Not only are the goalies still in the nets, we don't even know which team will need to pull theirs yet.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Why is it that the most competitive states seem to have the most problems with their voting systems? It's not like they haven't had many years to improve things.
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All of this stuff is a national disgrace. Getting ballots to overseas military just one sad example. The time to address these problems comprehensively is after an election, not before. And one reasonable, common sense reform would be requiring voters to identify themselves, when they register and when they vote.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Why is it that the most competitive states seem to have the most problems with their voting systems? It's not like they haven't had many years to improve things.
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There are problems in noncompetitive states too. Here in NY we've had really long lines (much worse than four years ago, based on anecdotal evidence anyway) and fairly widespread reports of ballot scanners that aren't working properly. It's just that they aren't really newsworthy in the eyes of the national media because they aren't likely to affect any outcomes like they are in swing states.
 
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Voted at 4:10 pm. No one ahead of me in line. Number1073 at my polling place.
 
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Okay, so my friends and I were trying to quantify how much more valuable your vote is depending on whether you live in one state or another. I proposed this formula as a way to describe it numerically:

In a two party presidential race, you cast a vote in a state with "E" electoral college votes. Your state has a voter turnout of "T", and the margin of victory (in perctentage) is "M". Your vote's value "V" then would be valued by this formula (units would end up being electoral college votes per your vote):

V = (2/(MT))*E

Are there any better statistical models for how "valuable" your vote truly is?
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Okay, so my friends and I were trying to quantify how much more valuable your vote is depending on whether you live in one state or another. I proposed this formula as a way to describe it numerically:

In a two party presidential race, you cast a vote in a state with "E" electoral college votes. Your state has a voter turnout of "T", and the margin of victory (in perctentage) is "M". Your vote's value "V" then would be valued by this formula (units would end up being electoral college votes per your vote):

V = (2/(MT))*E

Are there any better statistical models for how "valuable" your vote truly is?
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V = M

Where M is how much money you have.
 
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Oh, you *******. You're really only calling Vermont and Kentucky?
 
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