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2012 Frozen Four: Union vs. Ferris State; Minnesota vs. Boston College

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mnstate0fhockey said:
That said, it really doesn't bother Gopher fans. At least me. We know we're all underdogs in the media's eyes, and kinda like it that way. This team plays better with a chip on their shoulder. It's when everyone expects them to win that this Gopher team seems to crap the bed.
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Very true. Final Five is the perfect example. But what this could lead to is a MN/Union final with MN as a heavy favorite setting up that same scenerio yet again.
 
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i think that when minnesota and BC play their best they are the 2 top teams in the country. sure BC is wonderful at the run and gun- that is the gophers game as well. some of the most talented east coast kids vs some of the most talented minnesota kids. its going to be fun to watch. it should come down to the goaltenders.
 
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goldy_331 said:
Bloggers are media, aren't they?
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Nope.


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Tiggsy said:
Very true. Final Five is the perfect example. But what this could lead to is a MN/Union final with MN as a heavy favorite setting up that same scenerio yet again.
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Yeah, and that scares me should we get to that point. But we won't, because we're completely outclassed by BC ;)
 
Re: 2012 Frozen Four: Union vs. Ferris State; Minnesota vs. Boston College

I was debating whether to watch the game or not.
I hate to waste all that time only to see the Gophs get schooled.

Maybe I'll just catch the BC highlight reel on ESPN.
 
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I apologize for my gopher bretheren. They haven't had their zoloft today.
 
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J.D. said:
I hate sandbagging. Yes, BC is the favorite...albeit maybe a slight one. Somebody has to be. That is not saying anything bad about Minnesota. BC fans are not declaring victory...all that has been done by other fans.
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If I'm reading KRACH correctly, BC would win 62.5% of the time against MN.
 
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Bakunin said:
If I'm reading KRACH correctly, BC would win 62.5% of the time against MN.
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Again though, KRACH only takes into consideration W/L record, and W/L record of opponents, and so on. If the hypothesis that MN has an "unlucky" W/L record based on actual performance is true, KRACH would not be any better at accounting for that than PWR or RPI.

I do think KRACH is a pretty neat little tool though, and a cool way of thinking about the rankings. It just isnt really any different than RPI, just a different way of thinking about it. Hockey is way behind baseball when it comes to advanced metrics.

In the absence of any really good metrics, a good rule of thumb is "what is vegas offering?" On a niche sport like college hockey the gambling market is not as efficient as, say NFL, but its probably better than nothing.
 
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vhawk said:
Again though, KRACH only takes into consideration W/L record, and W/L record of opponents, and so on. If the hypothesis that MN has an "unlucky" W/L record based on actual performance is true, KRACH would not be any better at accounting for that than PWR or RPI.

I do think KRACH is a pretty neat little tool though, and a cool way of thinking about the rankings. It just isnt really any different than RPI, just a different way of thinking about it. Hockey is way behind baseball when it comes to advanced metrics.

In the absence of any really good metrics, a good rule of thumb is "what is vegas offering?" On a niche sport like college hockey the gambling market is not as efficient as, say NFL, but its probably better than nothing.
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Hockey isn't as far behind as you 'd imagine. See Corsi, Fenwick, etc measurements. They just aren't really applied much to the college game.
 
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Bakunin said:
If I'm reading KRACH correctly, BC would win 62.5% of the time against MN.
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I could certainly buy that... 62.5% is by no means prohibitive. 5W:3L ratio.
 
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Kneel before BjugZOD!

It's not a matter of is MN going to win, it's going to be how MUCH does MN win by?
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
I could care less either. In fact, I welcome the lack of respect by the media.
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Just a fun dig, but yes you could care less but you'd have to stop talking about it. ;)

I still think people are overlooking the winner of the 1st semi against BC on Saturday night.





I like our chances.
 
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