2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

[Old Pio]

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Do you really believe he wasn't vetted? He ran against a Clinton for cripes sake.

Then show us the transcript. Or promise right here and now you and the rest of the ladies' chorale won't mention Perry's grades at A&M.

 

[Bob Gray]

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You blew right by the point. Nice.

We seem to be doing a lot of that these days.

Glad you enjoyed Tucson. Not a bad place other than the U of A!

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Then show us the transcript. Or promise right here and now you and the rest of the ladies' chorale won't mention Perry's grades at A&M.

I know you're delusional but I had no idea it was at this grand a scale.

Your premise suggest two things that don't exist.

1. That life is fair.
2. That anyone who matters cares about Rick Perry's grades.

Makes me wonder what Rick Parry's grades were though. Oh well.

Now that I've looked up his grades I feel good about my opinion of him which was that he's an idiot.

 

[unofan]

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Then show us the transcript. Or promise right here and now you and the rest of the ladies' chorale won't mention Perry's grades at A&M.

I don't need Rick Perry's transcripts to recognize that he's an idiot. I'm still wondering how he's gonna get past the fact that he was a Democrat until 2001...

 

[Old Pio]

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I don't need Rick Perry's transcripts to recognize that he's an idiot. I'm still wondering how he's gonna get past the fact that he was a Democrat until 2001...

Ahh, the voice of reason. I'd imagine Perry's about as smart as you are, but as you say, who cares? The answer is every snarky libtard who posts here for openers. Being a Democrat didn't seem to hurt Reagan (Perry admittedly has a long way to go to fill those shoes--like stomping every Democrat who opposed him into jelly).

 

[Old Pio]

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I know you're delusional but I had no idea it was at this grand a scale.

Your premise suggest two things that don't exist.

1. That life is fair.
2. That anyone who matters cares about Rick Perry's grades.

Makes me wonder what Rick Parry's grades were though. Oh well.

Now that I've looked up his grades I feel good about my opinion of him which was that he's an idiot.

Next thing you know you're gonna smell your own arm pits. Get all your "Perry is an idiot" bon mots ready. I have a feeling he's going to gut Deadmeat like a fish. And thanks for finally admitting that you don't matter.

 

[Tundra]

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Frankly on principle, I have no intention of changing the US Constitution to limit Americans rights as does Perry...rather than ensure Americans rights as the founders intended. But I am not a big government, social conservative...pretty much the worst combination.

I don't use the term culturally inept for Perry lightly.

Looks like some of the founders didn't even want the Bill of rights in the constitution. And it was only added later as amendments 1-10. (which includes corporations now according to SCOTUS)

Makes me wonder what would be (ex)included in a constitution written by our parties today. And what label to stick... federalist or anti-federalist.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/charters_of_freedom_7.html

At the Constitutional Convention, the proposal to include a bill of rights was considered and defeated. The Bill of Rights was added to the Constitution as the first ten amendments on December 15, 1791.

To the Federalists, those who favored the Constitution, a bill of rights was unnecessary because the Federal Government was limited in its powers and could not interfere with the rights of the people or the states; also, most states had bills of rights. To the Anti-Federalists, those who opposed the Constitution, the prospect of establishing a strong central government without an explicit list of rights guaranteed to the people was unthinkable.

 

[5mn_Major]

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I don't need Rick Perry's transcripts to recognize that he's an idiot. I'm still wondering how he's gonna get past the fact that he was a Democrat until 2001...

Wiki has that being '89.

Good lord, indeed. Why should anyone, ever, expect libs to be consistent or even make sense? Huffpo thinks Perry's transcript is a vital document in chosing who our next president is. But Deadmeat's transcript(s) are of no importance whatsoever. And pointing out this glaring inconsistency brings out the wails of anguish from all the little girls hiding under the bedclothes at the prospect of Rick Perry in the WH.

I for one haven't been claiming Perry is dumb (just at the fringe of American culture is all). But I don't see why one should in general welcome putting someone with a lower IQ in the most challenging and important job in the world.

And regarding Obama, birth certificate issue is actually not just wrong news but quite old:

Stephanopoulos: According to the bill ‘a candidate for president or vice president shall attach to and file with the affidavit a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate certified by the appropriate official in the candidate’s state of birth.’

Bachmann: That’s right.

Stephanopoulos: Well I have the president’s certificate right here. It’s certified, it’s got a certification number. It’s got the registrar of the state signed. It’s got a seal on it. And it says ‘this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.’

Bachmann: Well, then that should settle it.

 

[Old Pio]

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Wiki has that being '89.



I for one haven't been claiming Perry is dumb (just at the fringe of American culture is all). But I don't see why one should in general welcome putting someone with a lower IQ in the most challenging and important job in the world.

And regarding Obama, birth certificate issue is actually not just wrong news but quite old:

Stephanopoulos: According to the bill ‘a candidate for president or vice president shall attach to and file with the affidavit a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate certified by the appropriate official in the candidate’s state of birth.’

Bachmann: That’s right.

Stephanopoulos: Well I have the president’s certificate right here. It’s certified, it’s got a certification number. It’s got the registrar of the state signed. It’s got a seal on it. And it says ‘this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.’

Bachmann: Well, then that should settle it.

So college transcripts are accurate indicators of IQ? Really? You libtards can keep begging that question 'til the cows come home, that doesn't make it true. Are you so blinded by your love of Deadmeat you can't differentiate between transcripts and birth certificates? Evidently. So you eloquently rebut an argument I didn't make with a gratuitous tutorial from that greasy little dwarf Stephanopolous. The issue I've been raising is about TRANSCRIPTS, not BIRTH CERTIFICATES. Are you capable of wrapping your meager intellect around that? You libtards have your noses so far up his a*s. What's going to happen when the "stupid" governor of Texas sends Deadmeat packing?

 

[Tundra]

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Being a Democrat didn't seem to hurt Reagan (Perry admittedly has a long way to go to fill those shoes--like stomping every Democrat who opposed him into jelly).

It's one thing to stomp on your opponent but they also need oratory skills and charisma. Obama clearly had it and so did Reagan. Lets hope the best person get elected with vision and real change that we can believe in.

After watching Ron Paul several times, it's clear he isn't very good. I agree with most of his policy goals but not the rationale behind it or how he present them.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/charters_of_freedom_12.html

In 1989, the fortieth President of the United States, Ronald Reagan, reflected on the current state of the American Dream: "After 200 years . . . [America's] still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home."

The bosom of America is open to receive not only the Opulent & respectable Stranger,
but the oppressed & persecuted of all Nations & Religions;
whom we shall wellcome to a participation of all our rights & previleges.

George Washington, Address to Irish Immigrants, draft handwritten by David Humphries, December 2, 1783

 

[Old Pio]

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It's one thing to stomp on your opponent but they also need oratory skills and charisma. Obama clearly had it and so did Reagan. Lets hope the best person get elected with vision and real change that we can believe in.

After watching Ron Paul several times, it's clear he isn't very good. I agree with most of his policy goals but not the rationale behind it or how he present them.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/charters_of_freedom_12.html

These days great oratorical skills are a big plus, no doubt. And, like you, I thought Deadmeat brought those skills to the job. Lately, however, he's been tinny and whiney, and far from the oratorical juggernaut we first thought he was. I believe in this area, like most others, he was oversold. "Tingles" Mathews comes to mind. Deadmeat is apparantly unable to say much more than his name without a teleprompter. Reagan, you'll recall, delivered his speeches using 3X5 cards (and was roundly snarked because of it). I'd have to say the three great presidential communicators of my life are JFK, Clinton and Reagan. Deadmeat may be in the top ten (barely) but not in the same league with those guys.

'Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge—and more."

Jack Kennedy spoke those words at his inaugural. I can imagine Reagan saying them. But can anyone honestly say they think Deadmeat would utter them?

Part of why Reagan always out performed expectations was something more than oratorical skills and charisma. He had "it." In his first run he took on incumbent governor Pat Brown in California. Brown enjoyed a 2X1 Democrat to Republican registration advantage and publicly mused about how he wanted to take on the actor. Reagan beat him by a million votes. Similarly, an incumbent president yammered about wanting to face Reagan, and in a three way race, the old actor beat HIM in 44 states and helped bring in a Republican majority in the Senate.

As to Ron Paul, anyone who's comfortable with a nuclear Iran is, ipso facto, unfit to be president--of anything.

 

[5mn_Major]

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The issue I've been raising is about TRANSCRIPTS

Juris doctor magna cum laude at Harvard and sr professor at U Chicago in Constitutional Law (both usually top 10 in Constitutional Law).

Challenging O's scholastic credentials? You can't be serious.

 

[Old Pio]

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Juris doctor magna cum laude at Harvard and sr professor at U Chicago in Constitutional Law (both usually top 10 in Constitutional Law).

Challenging O's scholastic credentials? You can't be serious.

Oh, so now you're focused. Yes, he's well educated, and probably pretty smart too, although his performance as president doesn't indicate it. But, please God, nobody's questioning his "academic credentials," because we know they are accurate predictors of success in office. Like Jimmy Carter, who was a newqueler engineer. How'd that work out? As usual you're missing the point. Let me 'splain it to you Lucy: why has he not released all of those glittering transcripts?

Huffpo has released Perry's. Why won't Deadmeat release his, at least to prove how much smarter than Perry he is? What on earth would explain his reluctance? And why don't libtards who place such an emphasis on these matters demand that "the smartest guy in the room" release those transcripts? It's not a matter of questioning his academic achievements. It's a matter of what's good for the goose should be good for the gander. Dual standard, get it?

 

[5mn_Major]

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Oh, so now you're focused. Yes, he's well educated, and probably pretty smart too, although his performance as president doesn't indicate it. As usual you're missing the point. Let me 'splain it to you Lucy: why has he not released all of those glittering transcripts?

Huffpo has released Perry's. Why won't Deadmeat release his, at least to prove how much smarter than Perry he is? What on earth would explain his reluctance? And why don't libtards who place such an emphasis on these matters demand that "the smartest guy in the room" release those transcripts? It's not a matter of questioning his academic achievements. It's a matter of what's good for the goose should be good for the gander. Dual standard, get it?

They don't release them because there's no news. When your a Harvard magna cum laude...seeing he got an A in all these classes but a B in Psych doesn't change the story that O was a great student.

Explaining that Perry was a poor student might just matter to some people...and therefore, is news. Maybe your point is that they just should have said that he was placed on academic probation for bad grades...rather than he got 9 Ds in college. That's a valid point.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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My Zach, there's a conspiracy. Just like the birth certificate.

 

[Old Pio]

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They don't release them because there's no news. When your a Harvard magna cum laude...seeing he got an A in all these classes but a B in Psych doesn't change the story that O was a great student.

Explaining that Perry was a poor student might just matter to some people...and therefore, is news. Maybe your point is that they just should have said that he was placed on academic probation for bad grades...rather than he got 9 Ds in college. That's a valid point.

Were you tugging yourself when you counted up those D's? I assume that blather about A's and a B in psych is just an overworked imagination. Do you honestly think Perry's college grades will or should save Deadmeat's skin? Dream on. And if you've got the actual grades then why not dazzle us? I'm also interested in his grades at Columbia. Wonder if he was an equal opportunity admit to Harvard Law.

As usual, your desire to "defend Deadmeat" overrides common sense and good sentence construction. Hence your phrase "placed on academic probation for bad grades." Strikes me as a tiny bit redundant, but "must defend Deadmeat."

I would call Perry an indifferent student, which many folks are. You got Harry Truman's grades on your rolodex? But what somebody does in his 20's is not always or even usually predictive of what he'll be doing in his 50's and 60's. This is first cousin to Kerry's ridiculous campaign based on his service as a very young man. And we should ignore a quarter of a century in the Senate. Anyone who bases his vote for president in whole or in part on what a middle aged man did in college is a fool or a libtard.

 

[Old Pio]

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My Zach, there's a conspiracy. Just like the birth certificate.

If you can't add anything relevant or truthful to the conversation, then why not apply the Desitin and call me in the morning?

 

[Kepler]

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If you move to AZ and treat me nice, I'll tell you about the time I had a meal with Ned Harkness.

It's a date. My friends have told me some Ned stories, but they were all during his "wizened, elder statesman" period when he was on his best behavior.

 

[Kepler]

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Glad you enjoyed Tucson. Not a bad place other than the U of A!

I was there before the student influx. I would probably not have cared for the area around the university if it was crawling with drunken college kids. From living in Chapel Hill in my thirties I know they lose their appeal very quickly. How they appear once you're in your forties I can't imagine. It was great to have the Hotel Congress to ourselves, as it was.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Good lord, indeed. Why should anyone, ever, expect libs to be consistent or even make sense?

Your sanctimony is consistent.