2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

[walrus]

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Nope just tired of politicians who are waay culturally out of step with the country trying to enforce their opinions on everyone. so.

I don't even know who you are talking about(I assume Rick Perry), if he wins does that mean you are culturally out of step with America?

 

[Kepler]

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I might even be able to stomach Bachmann. If Perry gets that far, I activate for Obama. No more cultural extremist knuckheads.

You could vote for Bachmann but you don't like cultural extremists?

Perry is Dubya plus Rove in one package. He may also be the only high profile Neocon remaining anywhere outside the AEI. If the GOP invites those guys back into the fold after what they did to the country, they deserve to lose by a Reagan-Mondale landslide. His cultural reactionary act doesn't bother me nearly so much as his imperial pretensions. The former is just how you harvest votes as a Republican in Texas -- he'd be a fool to turn down that easy A. The latter he might actually believe.

It's way too early, but I think Perry has the best chance of any Republican in this field to be president someday, if only because the country has already demonstrated it can make that mistake twice, so why not thrice? Obviously, a Perry or Bachmann would destroy a Paul or Huntsman in the primaries because on the right gorillas always beat chimpanzees.

An Obama presidency with a Republican House and a Republican Senate would actually be tolerable and might address real budgetary reform (unless the Tea Party continues to make the GOP leadership its bitch, in which case nothing will get done).

 

[Bakunin]

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Honestly I kind of want her to win just to see how horrible things can become.

• 9%+ unemployment
• Stock market in a severe correction
• Lifeless housing market
• Tepid to non-existent economic expansion based on the last GDP number
• Still involved in three ****ing wars
• Credit rating downgraded by S&P and possibly to be downgraded by the other two ratings agencies

I don't know how exactly you define "horrible", but I think we've already got that one very well-covered.

 

[Kepler]

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• 9%+ unemployment
• Stock market in a severe correction
• Lifeless housing market
• Tepid to non-existent economic expansion based on the last GDP number
• Still involved in three ****ing wars
• Credit rating downgraded by S&P and possibly to be downgraded by the other two ratings agencies

I don't know how exactly you define "horrible", but I think we've already got that one very well-covered.

The market may not be in a "correction." It's just HIGHLY volatile, alternating between +/- 400 point days. It was up +420 Thursday. I suspect the smart money is really creaming the dumb money these last couple weeks.

But things are bad and they may get worse, which is why this isn't a good election cycle to nominate a nut -- they might actually win, and I don't share Foxton's curiosity.

In case anyone (everyone?) missed last night's debate, this is a much better experience than actually being exposed to it.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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There's only two I would vote for that were on the stage last night. Ron Paul and Michele. Both are pure as driven snow. The rest are all snakes.

 

[Kepler]

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There's only two I would vote for that were on the stage last night. Ron Paul and Michele.

I suspect you are not taking this thing seriously, young man.

 

[unofan]

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BTW, when are we going to see HIS transcripts?

Jesus H. Christ in a handbasket...is this the next round of birtherism?

 

[unofan]

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Ron Paul is winning this debate as far as I'm concerned. Bachmann has been the most Presidential of the bunch.

According to a friend who was there, she was being fed lines from off stage during every commercial break. Either that, or she had a major case of the runs, since she'd sprint off every single time.

 

[Bakunin]

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The market may not be in a "correction."

Once it drops more than 10% from the peak, it's in correction territory. We nearly saw it drop more than 20%, which would have put us right back into a bear market.

I suspect the smart money is really creaming the dumb money these last couple weeks.

That happens pretty much every week and isn't at all unusual.

But things are bad and they may get worse, which is why this isn't a good election cycle to nominate a nut -- they might actually win, and I don't share Foxton's curiosity.

They may get worse due to factors beyond the nut's control. They may also improve. We assign far too much credit/blame to political leadership when it comes to these things (although the debt ceiling stalemate was clearly a situation where assigning blame was simple and straightforward).

 

[bigblue_dl]

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According to a friend who was there, she was being fed lines from off stage during every commercial break. Either that, or she had a major case of the runs, since she'd sprint off every single time.

She takes every opportunity she gets to read her bible, including commercial breaks.

 

[Bakunin]

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According to a friend who was there, she was being fed lines from off stage during every commercial break. Either that, or she had a major case of the runs, since she'd sprint off every single time.

Why did I interpret this as her being given lines of coke?

It would explain a lot.

 

[Kepler]

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They may get worse due to factors beyond the nut's control. They may also improve. We assign far too much credit/blame to political leadership when it comes to these things (although the debt ceiling stalemate was clearly a situation where assigning blame was simple and straightforward).

I agree with you. I wasn't saying "don't elect a nut because they might make the market worse." I was saying "don't elect a nut because putting The Bomb in the hands of a Dispensationalist is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very bad idea." The fact that the market is bad and could get worse increases the likelihood of the incumbent losing no matter what kind of doorstop the GOP eventually anoints, so it's kind of up to them to be responsible for once. Not a hopeful prospect given their track record.

 

[Bakunin]

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What are you, afraid of death? It's one of the few things in life that is guaranteed to happen.

We all b*tch and moan about uncertainty, yet we spend most of our lives worried about things that are inevitable over which we have no control.

Besides, a nuclear exchange would put a cap on global warming *and* clear up the excess housing. That's what I call a two-fer.

 

[Kepler]

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What are you, afraid of death? It's one of the few things in life that is guaranteed to happen.

We all b*tch and moan about uncertainty, yet we spend most of our lives worried about things that are inevitable over which we have no control.

Besides, a nuclear exchange would put a cap on global warming *and* clear up the excess housing. That's what I call a two-fer.

After being in Tucson last week, it did occur to me that the best way to correct the housing crisis is to firebomb every development with over 25 units built in the United States after 1997. We would also improve the national IQ by giving no warning.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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According to a friend who was there, she was being fed lines from off stage during every commercial break. Either that, or she had a major case of the runs, since she'd sprint off every single time.

She needed to borrow the Presidential teleprompter.

 

[unofan]

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She needed to borrow the Presidential teleprompter.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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I liked it. She's the only one on that stage who has the moxy to use it.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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After being in Tucson last week, it did occur to me that the best way to correct the housing crisis is to firebomb every development with over 25 units built in the United States after 1997. We would also improve the national IQ by giving no warning.

Firebombing? C'mon Kepler, you're too smart to be saying such stupid things even in jest. If it's a great idea, these are all 25 unit developments post-1997. Start there.

 

[Kepler]

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If it's a great idea, these are all 25 unit developments post-1997. Start there.

Good idea. South Baker now, South Baker tomorrow, South Baker forever.

 

[5mn_Major]

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If he wins does that mean you are culturally out of step with America?

Don't think so. Perhaps you are among the 38% who want a US Constitution to ban gay marriage. I am not. Conservatives from rural Texas...and Bush II was and Bush III if he happens will be.

Frankly on principle, I have no intention of changing the US Constitution to limit Americans rights as does Perry...rather than ensure Americans rights as the founders intended. But I am not a big government, social conservative...pretty much the worst combination.

I don't use the term culturally inept for Perry lightly.