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Re: 2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
Can't disagree. Obama is to the right of Bush on most issues.
Can't disagree. Obama is to the right of Bush on most issues.
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2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
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Re: 2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
To be fair, it was apparently the name of the property before Perry's parents bought it a generation ago. A lot of places had similar names back in the bad ol' days. Kind of a stupid issue to hang your opposition to his candidacy on when there's so much more relevant material. Do you think your grandfather ever came into contact with someone who used that word? Should we bash you because of it?
To be fair, it was apparently the name of the property before Perry's parents bought it a generation ago. A lot of places had similar names back in the bad ol' days. Kind of a stupid issue to hang your opposition to his candidacy on when there's so much more relevant material. Do you think your grandfather ever came into contact with someone who used that word? Should we bash you because of it?
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Re: 2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
yes I do. I'm an optimist. I believe the vast majority of Americans believe in freedom for all. the odd skinhead and Louis Farrakhan aside.
yes I do. I'm an optimist. I believe the vast majority of Americans believe in freedom for all. the odd skinhead and Louis Farrakhan aside.
huskyfan
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actually, yes, I am that old. I actually remember Martin Luther King. the separate drinking fountains. all that cr^p. in the 70's and 80's you could still find restaurants in the South where the blacks sat in the backroom. sorry, Foxton, but you are swimming uphill when you deny the Democratic party's history. founded by and for slave owners. Ron Paul is a wingnut.
actually, yes, I am that old. I actually remember Martin Luther King. the separate drinking fountains. all that cr^p. in the 70's and 80's you could still find restaurants in the South where the blacks sat in the backroom. sorry, Foxton, but you are swimming uphill when you deny the Democratic party's history. founded by and for slave owners. Ron Paul is a wingnut.
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Even in light of the exact opposite that has been listed in previous posts? How do you reconcile that opinion with Cain's statement that Muslims need not apply for any job in his Administration?
Even in light of the exact opposite that has been listed in previous posts? How do you reconcile that opinion with Cain's statement that Muslims need not apply for any job in his Administration?
Re: 2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
I think the question was whether he was planning to hire a Muslim to serve in his cabinet. No? Do you think he should be forced to hire someone you recommend?
I think the question was whether he was planning to hire a Muslim to serve in his cabinet. No? Do you think he should be forced to hire someone you recommend?
Re: 2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
We were on one of my old man's spring vacation civil war battlefield tours when an elderly waiter, with tears in his eyes, shoved a copy of the local paper in my father's hands and said: "Look what they're doing to my people." It was a cover story with dogs, hoses and clubs. A powerful memory. Please recall when the Democrats nominated the "liberal" Adlai Stevenson in '52 his running mate was John Sparkman of Alabama. When they renominated Adlai in '56, his running mate was Estes Kefauver of Tennessee. Trust me, these two weren't exactly civil rights stalwarts.
We were on one of my old man's spring vacation civil war battlefield tours when an elderly waiter, with tears in his eyes, shoved a copy of the local paper in my father's hands and said: "Look what they're doing to my people." It was a cover story with dogs, hoses and clubs. A powerful memory. Please recall when the Democrats nominated the "liberal" Adlai Stevenson in '52 his running mate was John Sparkman of Alabama. When they renominated Adlai in '56, his running mate was Estes Kefauver of Tennessee. Trust me, these two weren't exactly civil rights stalwarts.
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Re: 2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
Uh..no.
At a debate he was asked
Uh..no.
Herman Cain said:
At a debate he was asked
Foxton
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And Ron Paul like Bachmann is up there with your boy Herman "No Muslims" Cain on the stage trying to be the republican candidate for the president. If he's just a wingnut, how wingnutty do you have to be not to be considered for a republican nomination?
He's also said there should be bans on mosque's if people want to or not.
When did I ever deny it? You've brought up the democrats in a similar and erroneous way before completely missing that the two parties have flip flopped political positions. Furthermore that doesn't include that up from about 1890 to 1964 it was really one party divided by North/South. Two guesses, one doesn't count, which region moved on over to the republicans?
And Ron Paul like Bachmann is up there with your boy Herman "No Muslims" Cain on the stage trying to be the republican candidate for the president. If he's just a wingnut, how wingnutty do you have to be not to be considered for a republican nomination?
In the debate yes.
He's also said there should be bans on mosque's if people want to or not.
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Maybe I'm being unusually dense here, but that Cain quote seems to support Geezer. Cain said "no" to the cabinet and "no" to the federal bench. And nothing else. As I understand it, there are lots of other jobs in the federal government. For instance, Muslims could be Army psychiatrists, what could possibly go wrong?
Maybe I'm being unusually dense here, but that Cain quote seems to support Geezer. Cain said "no" to the cabinet and "no" to the federal bench. And nothing else. As I understand it, there are lots of other jobs in the federal government. For instance, Muslims could be Army psychiatrists, what could possibly go wrong?
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that's disheartening. I think the fear of Sharia Law in the US is overblown and it's sad that a leading candidate has apparently fallen for it. Full freedom (including of religions) as a demonstrated alternative, might be a better way to win them (the extremists) over.
that's disheartening. I think the fear of Sharia Law in the US is overblown and it's sad that a leading candidate has apparently fallen for it. Full freedom (including of religions) as a demonstrated alternative, might be a better way to win them (the extremists) over.
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When he said the Islamic religion tells its followers to convert or kill infidels, he may have gotten Muhammad mixed up with Anne Coulter.
When he said the Islamic religion tells its followers to convert or kill infidels, he may have gotten Muhammad mixed up with Anne Coulter.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: 2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
Coulter's a fraud too. She's in love with Christie. Christie is just another Romney/Perry type. This is their time to get their candidate and they don't have one to nominate.
Coulter's a fraud too. She's in love with Christie. Christie is just another Romney/Perry type. This is their time to get their candidate and they don't have one to nominate.
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Re: 2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
I know I'm a couple of pages behind here, but for once I have something I actually want to say that I won't argue about, I just want to put out there.
Since I think the concept of an "illegal" is BS, I agree with Old Pio, but since that BS concept does currently exist, I can see Scooby's point as well. The thing is, Texas is one of the few states that is trying to make higher education a route to legal residency, a cause that I think is very important. It feels weird to say, but on this issue, Texas is probably the most progressive state in the country.
As for the racism thing; racism isn't just people screaming epithets and hanging people from trees. The constant sense that a significant number of Americans give that "you don't belong here" is racism. The feeling that you have to always be smarter, and better, and more efficient than the rest of your coworkers so that they don't think you're an "equal opportunity" hire is racism. The fact that, yes, minorities still make less money for many jobs than whites is racism. Racism is not dead. It's not even mortally wounded. It may not even have a tummy ache. Ok, maybe a tummy ache. But racism is a daily part of life for millions of Americans.
And before anyone starts in on me, yes it goes the other way as well in some places. That doesn't make it better, it makes it more insidious. I am white. I am male. I am heterosexual (I think). Every day, I can go wherever I want, and no one EVER questions my right to be there. No one ever looks at me or speaks to me like I'm up to no good. Clerks at grocery stores don't look at me and speak to me like they're better than I am. That isn't true of everyone in this country. It isn't true of everyone in Denver, where I live. Racism in the current day is not a liberal/conservative issue, and my fellow liberals who think it is are only fooling themselves. And anyone who thinks racism is dead is REALLY fooling him or herself.
Racism today is a festering boil under the surface of what looks like a peaceful society. I hope the days of yore stay in yore, but I'm not positive that they will.
I know I'm a couple of pages behind here, but for once I have something I actually want to say that I won't argue about, I just want to put out there.
Since I think the concept of an "illegal" is BS, I agree with Old Pio, but since that BS concept does currently exist, I can see Scooby's point as well. The thing is, Texas is one of the few states that is trying to make higher education a route to legal residency, a cause that I think is very important. It feels weird to say, but on this issue, Texas is probably the most progressive state in the country.
As for the racism thing; racism isn't just people screaming epithets and hanging people from trees. The constant sense that a significant number of Americans give that "you don't belong here" is racism. The feeling that you have to always be smarter, and better, and more efficient than the rest of your coworkers so that they don't think you're an "equal opportunity" hire is racism. The fact that, yes, minorities still make less money for many jobs than whites is racism. Racism is not dead. It's not even mortally wounded. It may not even have a tummy ache. Ok, maybe a tummy ache. But racism is a daily part of life for millions of Americans.
And before anyone starts in on me, yes it goes the other way as well in some places. That doesn't make it better, it makes it more insidious. I am white. I am male. I am heterosexual (I think). Every day, I can go wherever I want, and no one EVER questions my right to be there. No one ever looks at me or speaks to me like I'm up to no good. Clerks at grocery stores don't look at me and speak to me like they're better than I am. That isn't true of everyone in this country. It isn't true of everyone in Denver, where I live. Racism in the current day is not a liberal/conservative issue, and my fellow liberals who think it is are only fooling themselves. And anyone who thinks racism is dead is REALLY fooling him or herself.
Racism today is a festering boil under the surface of what looks like a peaceful society. I hope the days of yore stay in yore, but I'm not positive that they will.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: 2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
Palin's out.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...or-president/2011/10/05/gIQApU3lOL_story.html
Milquetoast for the win I guess.
Palin's out.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...or-president/2011/10/05/gIQApU3lOL_story.html
Milquetoast for the win I guess.
Re: 2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel
well that's accurate, according to an interpretation that's way too popular (lest we forget); but I don't think that's a reason to keep the sane ones from having a mosque in the good ol' USA. Such a ban only reinforces the nutjobs.
well that's accurate, according to an interpretation that's way too popular (lest we forget); but I don't think that's a reason to keep the sane ones from having a mosque in the good ol' USA. Such a ban only reinforces the nutjobs.
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'Merica already has religious nuts trying to control everyone's lives we don't need some offshoot of that religion coming in and messing with their turf.
(Oh and this guy is the major talking head for one of the major groups that supported Perry's pray for rain/away the gay/anti-abortion rally)
But 'Merica is a xtian nation and the 1st amendment doesn't apply to anyone else.... including mormons, sorry Romney.
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'Merica already has religious nuts trying to control everyone's lives we don't need some offshoot of that religion coming in and messing with their turf.
(Oh and this guy is the major talking head for one of the major groups that supported Perry's pray for rain/away the gay/anti-abortion rally)
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huskyfan
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I am absolutely opposed to government officials who would protect Sharia Law over our own constitution and laws. What is wrong with you guys? Sharia is Hilter, Stalin and Attila the Hun wrapped in a giant holocaust for women. people are dying ... DYING ... so women are not genitally multilated, so they can drive, vote, handle money, get educated. and you would like Sharia Law introduced into the US?????!!!??? ***?
I am absolutely opposed to government officials who would protect Sharia Law over our own constitution and laws. What is wrong with you guys? Sharia is Hilter, Stalin and Attila the Hun wrapped in a giant holocaust for women. people are dying ... DYING ... so women are not genitally multilated, so they can drive, vote, handle money, get educated. and you would like Sharia Law introduced into the US?????!!!??? ***?
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