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2012 Elections in 3-D!

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Heads up to you voters in Maryland:

On April 3rd at primary election polling places, there will be a petition signing to get a referendum on November's ballot to overturn the recent <strike>gerrymander</strike> congressional district maps. If you have doubts about voting in the primary, this may be a reason to get there, just to tweak the Governor's and Legislature's collective noses.

And for you aspiring thespians in the DC Area, there is a casting call on Sunday for a Netflix political series... http://www.wtop.com/?nid=541&sid=2804109
 
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For all of you heading to Florida next week, be sure to bring your gun. It's legal to shoot people there. Just say you felt threatened.

So, if a player has a breakaway and is THREATENING to score a goal, fans can shoot the kid and it's perfectly legal! Although your team might be penalized, depending on the refs...
 
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For all of you heading to Florida next week, be sure to bring your gun. It's legal to shoot people there. Just say you felt threatened.

So, if a player has a breakaway and is THREATENING to score a goal, fans can shoot the kid and it's perfectly legal! Although your team might be penalized, depending on the refs...

does he have to be a negro? that could severely limit our options
 
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This is why I think most campaign finance laws are silly. I'd much rather have the campaign money go directly to a candidate with full disclosure of where it came from. That way the candidate is tied to what comes out in ads and everyone can see where the money came from and make their own decisions about it.

doesn't everyone already make their own decisions?
 
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Tons of New Balance shoes are made in China, they may make some shoes in the US but not all. Not dissing New Balance, the fact they are still here at all is a great thing. I've heard they are a good outfit to work for and my whole family wears their products

my shoes are made in the USA!! lucchese ;) (i wonder though if they'd be cheaper in price if made in malaysia......)
 
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How is the GOP love for Ronnie any worse than Dems worshipping at the shrine of JFK or for that matter, his drunken drowning younger brother? The "lion of the Senate," my a*s! Wandering around his Florida compound, drunk, with his pants around his ankles, asking women young enough to be his granddaughter to "kiss it." ....

to quote-- sex is natural, sex is good. not everybody does it, but everybody should.
 
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For all of you heading to Florida next week, be sure to bring your gun. It's legal to shoot people there. Just say you felt threatened.

So, if a player has a breakaway and is THREATENING to score a goal, fans can shoot the kid and it's perfectly legal! Although your team might be penalized, depending on the refs...
Unpossible unless you are from the unchosen team.
 
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For all of you heading to Florida next week, be sure to bring your gun. It's legal to shoot people there. Just say you felt threatened.

So, if a player has a breakaway and is THREATENING to score a goal, fans can shoot the kid and it's perfectly legal! Although your team might be penalized, depending on the refs...
The story is still developing. I would hate this to become another Tawana Brawley.
 
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For all of you heading to Florida next week, be sure to bring your gun. It's legal to shoot people there. Just say you felt threatened.

So, if a player has a breakaway and is THREATENING to score a goal, fans can shoot the kid and it's perfectly legal! Although your team might be penalized, depending on the refs...
Floridians will feel threatened by all the players. They're in college after all.
 
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The story is still developing. I would hate this to become another Tawana Brawley.
Whether it is or not, the law is still on the books. I can shoot anyone I want and it's perfectly legal.
 
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For all of you heading to Florida next week, be sure to bring your gun. It's legal to shoot people there. Just say you felt threatened.

A reply from Juan Williams:

The shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida has sparked national outrage, with civil rights leaders from San Francisco to Baltimore leading protests calling for a new investigation and the arrest of the shooter.

But what about all the other young black murder victims? Nationally, nearly half of all murder victims are black. And the overwhelming majority of those black people are killed by other black people. Where is the march for them?

Where is the march against the drug dealers who prey on young black people? Where is the march against bad schools, with their 50% dropout rate for black teenaged boys? Those failed schools are certainly guilty of creating the shameful 40% unemployment rate for black teens.

How about marching against the cable television shows constantly offering minstrel-show images of black youth as rappers and comedians who don't value education, dismiss the importance of marriage, and celebrate killing people, drug money and jailhouse fashion—the pants falling down because the jail guard has taken away the belt, the shoes untied because the warden removed the shoe laces, and accessories such as the drug dealer's pit bull.

Supposedly all of this is just entertainment and intended to co-opt the stereotypes. But it only ends up perpetuating stereotypes in white minds and, worse, having young black people internalize it as an authentic image of a proud black person.

There is no fashion, no thug attitude that should be an invitation to murder. But these are the real murderous forces surrounding the Martin death—and yet they never stir protests.

The race-baiters argue this case deserves special attention because it fits the mold of white-on-black violence that fills the history books. Some have drawn a comparison to the murder of Emmett Till, a black boy who was killed in 1955 by white racists for whistling at a white woman.

The Martin case is very different from the Emmett Till case, in which a white segregationist Mississippi society approved of the murder of a black child. Black America needs to get out of the rut of replaying racial injustices of the past.

All minority parents fear that children who embrace "gangsta" fashion, tattoos and a thug attitude will be prejudged as criminal.

Recall what Jesse Jackson once said: "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . . . After all we have been through. Just to think we can't walk down our own streets, how humiliating."

That is the unfair weight of being black in America for both the black person who feels the fear and the black teen who is judged as a criminal.

Despite stereotypes, the responsibility for the Florida shooting lies with the individual who pulled the trigger. The fact that the man pursued the teen after a 911 operator told him to back off, and the fact that he alone had a gun, calls for him to be arrested and held accountable under law. The Department of Justice is investigating the incident and the governor of Florida has appointed a special prosecutor to review the case.

But on a larger scale, all of this should open a serious national conversation about how our culture made it easier for this type of crime to take place.

As President Obama said last week, "I think all of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how does something like this happen. And that means we examine the laws and the context for what happened, as well as the specifics of the incident."

While civil rights leaders have raised their voices to speak out against this one tragedy, few if any will do the same about the larger tragedy of daily carnage that is black-on-black crime in America.

The most recent comprehensive study on black-on-black crime from the Justice Department should have been a clarion call for the black community to take action. There is no reason to believe that the trends it reported have decreased since 2005, the year for which the data were reported.

Almost one half of the nation's murder victims that year were black and a majority of them were between the ages of 17 and 29. Black people accounted for 13% of the total U.S. population in 2005. Yet they were the victims of 49% of all the nation's murders. And 93% of black murder victims were killed by other black people, according to the same report.

Less than half of black students graduate from high school. The education system's failure is often a jail sentence or even a death sentence. The Orlando Sentinel has reported that 17-year-old Martin was recently suspended from his high school. According to the U.S. Department of Education's Civil Rights Office, in the 2006-07 school year, 22% of all black and Hispanic K-12 students were suspended at least once (as compared to 5% of whites).

This year 22% of blacks live below the poverty line and a shocking 72% of black babies are born to unwed mothers. The national unemployment rate for black people increased last month to over 13%, nearly five points above the average for all Americans.

The killing of any child is a tragedy. But where are the protests regarding the larger problems facing black America?

Two of Juan's sentences really stood out for me:

"While civil rights leaders have raised their voices to speak out against this one tragedy, few if any will do the same about the larger tragedy of daily carnage that is black-on-black crime in America." and " a shocking 72% of black babies are born to unwed mothers."
 
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Two of Juan's sentences really stood out for me:

"While civil rights leaders have raised their voices to speak out against this one tragedy, few if any will do the same about the larger tragedy of daily carnage that is black-on-black crime in America." and " a shocking 72% of black babies are born to unwed mothers."

Ya..

First of all, it always seems like there is a backhand to some on liberal side from Juan so that it can make it on the air over at Fox. This is 'civil rights leaders ignore the problems' is the one in this story.

But most importantly it seems to me Juan is missing the point here. He asks why the outrage about Martin...but none regarding all the other similar crimes, 'guilty' police outfits and the larger black problem. But in reality...the civil rights orgs are doing just that. The methodology is to highlight high profile cases to show abuses. This creates public awareness and sensitivity. And ultimately, that's how society wide change happens.

Does Juan not see this or is he just talking to talk?
 
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The methodology is to highlight high profile cases to show abuses. This creates public awareness and sensitivity.


hmm...information starting to emerge indicates that we may be seeing another Tawana Brawley situation here....I heard a news report that said a witness has come forward who saw the "victim" on top of the shooter, smashing his head repeatedly into the ground; and the police report supposedly has the shooter with a broken nose and multilple lacerations to the back of his head. We'll see what facts finally do get reported.
 
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hmm...information starting to emerge indicates that we may be seeing another Tawana Brawley situation here....I heard a news report that said a witness has come forward who saw the "victim" on top of the shooter, smashing his head repeatedly into the ground; and the police report supposedly has the shooter with a broken nose and multilple lacerations to the back of his head. We'll see what facts finally do get reported.

If true...Ya...we'll see what happens. Timing is important. Did 911 tell him not to chase...and after he did, his head got smashed? That doesn't sound good for the shooter. Did his head get smashed first...then Martin fled, then the guy chased him and shot him? That doesn't sound good for the shooter. Frankly, I don't see too many scenarios where they guy was forced to shoot Martin due to the 911 recording. Also the witness of that event wil be important. You have to make sure that Martin actually did it.
 
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If true...Ya...we'll see what happens. Timing is important. Did 911 tell him not to chase...and after he did, his head got smashed? That doesn't sound good for the shooter. Did his head get smashed first...then Martin fled, then the guy chased him and shot him? That doesn't sound good for the shooter. Frankly, I don't see too many scenarios where they guy was forced to shoot Martin due to the 911 recording. Also the witness of that event wil be important. You have to make sure that Martin actually did it.

Not sure why the issue of this guy's decision to ignore the instructions of the 911 operator is being emphasized so much. It was obviously a foolish decision but, I guess I don't see that that issue is all that relevant in determining whether or not the shooting was justified. There seems to be this belief among the 'string up now, ask questions later' crowd (not to say that you are one of those) that because Zimmerman decided to pursue Martin against the instructions of the operator, he has lost all right to physically defend himself IF attacked.
 
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Not sure why the issue of this guy's decision to ignore the instructions of the 911 operator is being emphasized so much. It was obviously a foolish decision but, I guess I don't see that that issue is all that relevant in determining whether or not the shooting was justified. There seems to be this belief among the 'string up now, ask questions later' crowd (not to say that you are one of those) that because Zimmerman decided to pursue Martin against the instructions of the operator, he has lost all right to physically defend himself IF attacked.
So by the Florida law, if Zimmerman chased Martin and Martin felt threatened...
 
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