2012 Elections in 3-D!

[Kepler]

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Another thing about Romney is the way he's won. You want to leave your opponents with some good will at the end of the primaries. Mittens two rivals absolutely hate him. While Obama and Clinton weren't best friends, clearly they got on enough for him to appoint her Sec of State. Can anybody picture Santorum and Romney working together? How awkward would an endoresment look?

I do subscribe to the theory that a lot of "severely conservative" people in the party want him to lose. This opens up the next contest to a far right candidate who can run on the "Romney wasn't conservative enough" platform. I'm wondering how much heavy lifting these people do for the ol' Mittster. McCain was in a similar situation until Palin came along.

Which is why Romney will have to pick an even more unhinged social conservative than Palin, if that's possible, as his running mate. I would have thought Bachmann, but 2008 must have shown the GOP the perils of putting Joe the Plumber under the bright lights.

I think he should pick DeMint. That would be hysterical. What's Tony Perkins doing these days?

 

[Bakunin]

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I say he should pick Reagan as his running mate.

If the dead can vote, they can run as VP candidates.

 

[Priceless]

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Another thing about Romney is the way he's won. You want to leave your opponents with some good will at the end of the primaries. Mittens two rivals absolutely hate him. While Obama and Clinton weren't best friends, clearly they got on enough for him to appoint her Sec of State. Can anybody picture Santorum and Romney working together? How awkward would an endoresment look?

Reagan and Bush weren't exactly pals.

 

[joecct]

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Reagan and Bush weren't exactly pals.

But turn the tables, could Reagan have been the VP to GHW Bush? I think it is easier for the moderate to suck up to the conservative than for the conservative to suck up to the moderate.

 

[Rover]

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But turn the tables, could Reagan have been the VP to GHW Bush? I think it is easier for the moderate to suck up to the conservative than for the conservative to suck up to the moderate.

A good point, and relevant as it applies to Romney. One would think he has to go arch conservative with his pick.

 

[Priceless]

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A good point, and relevant as it applies to Romney. One would think he has to go arch conservative with his pick.

Romney should just pick himself as VP. Run as a moderate presidential candidate and as a very conservative VP candidate. And he has so many home states, he can get around that Constitutional requirement easily enough. It would be perfect!

 

[Kepler]

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Romney should just pick himself as VP. Run as a moderate presidential candidate and as a very conservative VP candidate. And he has so many home states, he can get around that Constitutional requirement easily enough. It would be perfect!

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Priceless again."

 

[geezer]

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Romney should just pick himself as VP. Run as a moderate presidential candidate and as a very conservative VP candidate. And he has so many home states, he can get around that Constitutional requirement easily enough. It would be perfect!

excellent!

 

[FreshFish]

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But turn the tables, could Reagan have been the VP to GHW Bush? I think it is easier for the moderate to suck up to the conservative than for the conservative to suck up to the moderate.

Wasn't Quayle far more conservative than GHWB? Maybe only younger conservatives can be VP with older moderates? (which btw likely will be the case this time as well, Rubio seems to be the VP for sure, both for the conservative and also for the Cuban vote that could put Romney over the top in Florida).

 

[Kepler]

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Wasn't Quayle far more conservative than GHWB? Maybe only younger conservatives can be VP with older moderates? (which btw likely will be the case this time as well, Rubio seems to be the VP for sure, both for the conservative and also for the Cuban vote that could put Romney over the top in Florida).

That might be true. Quayle was pretty much the same as Saint Joan: he memorized all the talking points and would always pivot back everything to three or four empty social con or fiscal con slogans.

(This isn't just snark -- it was honestly hard to know what, if anything, Quayle actually believed, because he was such over-processed cheese.)

The difficulty with Romney is he's the Man Who Isn't There, so pretty much anybody is going to overshadow him. If I were the GOP I'd actually be tempted to audition one of my blue chippers. If the economy doesn't tank you lose anyway, and this puts the name out there for '16. Rubio is a good choice all around, if he'll take it.

 

[Rover]

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Wasn't Quayle far more conservative than GHWB? Maybe only younger conservatives can be VP with older moderates? (which btw likely will be the case this time as well, Rubio seems to be the VP for sure, both for the conservative and also for the Cuban vote that could put Romney over the top in Florida).

Quayle was just a bad pick period. Really not sure what they were trying to accomplish although I don't remember who else was under consideration.

While Rubio has ruled himself out, he does make sense on paper. I've heard rumblings that his finances are a mess however (personnel debt I believe) which he's cleaning up and would like to get some distance from that before he launches on the national stage. Given the scrutiny Palin went under that's probably not a bad idea.

 

[Kepler]

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Quayle was just a bad pick period. Really not sure what they were trying to accomplish although I don't remember who else was under consideration.

Bush had a gender gap and some genius in the RNC thought JFK was elected because he was attractive, so they picked a cute guy. After about 15 minutes it became obvious that DQ wasn't up to the job, but by then it was too late so we all held our breath for four years and hoped the old man's heart held.

 

[Old Pio]

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Forgive me, I'm not sure where to put this. There are about a half dozen "Obama's the greatest thing since chunky peanut butter" threads that I had a hard time deciding. But I just had to pass along this example of Keith Ellison, D Abu Dhabi, channeling Bluto Blutarski. In about 90 seconds, Ellison jumps to the top of the heap of dimwit congressmen. Try to imagine if Dan Quayle had said this. Or Sarah Palin. I know, I know, that's different. It's always different.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...-keith-ellison-says-nazis-bombed-pearl-harbor

 

[Old Pio]

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Bush had a gender gap and some genius in the RNC thought JFK was elected because he was attractive, so they picked a cute guy. After about 15 minutes it became obvious that DQ wasn't up to the job, but by then it was too late so we all held our breath for four years and hoped the old man's heart held.

But I'll bet you were enthusiastic when Mondale selected an unknown, undistinguished female congressman as his running mate. Her husband was mobbed up to his lips and she spent considerable time posing as your average multi-millionaire housewife doing her own grocery shopping. But I don't recall anyone on the left complaining about her thin resume. Mostly, they were in love with her breasts.

 

[joecct]

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But I'll bet you were enthusiastic when Mondale selected an unknown, undistinguished female congressman as his running mate. Her husband was mobbed up to his lips and she spent considerable time posing as your average multi-millionaire housewife doing her own grocery shopping. But I don't recall anyone on the left complaining about her thin resume. Mostly, they were in love with her breasts.

Her landholdings were huge!

Trivia -- who was McGovern's 1st VP candidate? And no using Wiki or Google!!!

 

[FreshFish]

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Her landholdings were huge!

Trivia -- who was McGovern's 1st VP candidate? And no using Wiki or Google!!!

Honest, by memory only: Thomas Eagleton, Senator from Missouri, seemed attractive enough at the outset, until it turned out that, 11 years earlier, he had undergone electroshock therapy as treatment for post-campaign depression.

 

[joecct]

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Honest, by memory only: Thomas Eagleton, Senator from Missouri, seemed attractive enough at the outset, until it turned out that, 11 years earlier, he had undergone electroshock therapy as treatment for post-campaign depression.

Bing!

So he wasn't the VP Candidate because he was crazy? Or was he crazy for accepting #2 on McGovern's ticket?

 

[mookie1995]

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Quayle was just a bad pick period. Really not sure what they were trying to accomplish although I don't remember who else was under consideration.

While Rubio has ruled himself out, he does make sense on paper. I've heard rumblings that his finances are a mess however (personnel debt I believe) which he's cleaning up and would like to get some distance from that before he launches on the national stage. Given the scrutiny Palin went under that's probably not a bad idea.

i'm remembering howard baker and bob dole.. not sure who else

 

[mookie1995]

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and i don't recall ferraro having a rack

 

[Kepler]

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But I'll bet you were enthusiastic when Mondale selected an unknown, undistinguished female congressman as his running mate.

No, I wasn't, but primarily because I thought Ferraro was a crook.

And for somebody who rants about Obama's supposed blind love, I have a strong suspicion the Cult of Personality that surrounded The Actor never bothered you one bit. The GOP still hasn't stopped their Saint Ronny circle jerk.