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2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
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FadeToBlack&Gold
Kettle Medallion
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
I agree with this. That said, Halak has considerable potential and is going to a team with some talented young players like himself. St. Louis just has to be careful and only give him 55-60 games. Conklin had good stats for a backup and should be right over Halak's shoulder if he's not performing like he should.
I agree with this. That said, Halak has considerable potential and is going to a team with some talented young players like himself. St. Louis just has to be careful and only give him 55-60 games. Conklin had good stats for a backup and should be right over Halak's shoulder if he's not performing like he should.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
The Blackhawks called the Blues to swear at them for that after Niemi chose arbitration.
The Blackhawks called the Blues to swear at them for that after Niemi chose arbitration.
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
Yesterday. It's not insensitive, unless you're talking about something Probert-related.
Yesterday. It's not insensitive, unless you're talking about something Probert-related.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Something like this:
Probert said:
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
Ah, I misunderstood.
Well, that's just plain funny right there, if you ask me.
Ah, I misunderstood.
Well, that's just plain funny right there, if you ask me.
OvahInDovah
New member
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
Speculation on Metro is that he may head back over to the Swiss League, where he once won a scoring title.
Speculation on Metro is that he may head back over to the Swiss League, where he once won a scoring title.
OvahInDovah
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Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
To his credit, Chiarelli has built a solid core of young talent in Boston. The problem is that the majority of these players are his guys...and that makes it considerably tougher to make the difficult choices. In an ideal world, Chiarelli would move veterans like Tim Thomas, Michael Ryder and Andrew Ference for picks and prospects.
Umm ya. Well, if Chiarelli didn't sign him to a three year extension which nobody saw coming...
Does anyone know what Savard's exact quote was about the too many men penalty? Maybe that's what sent Neely over the edge?
To his credit, Chiarelli has built a solid core of young talent in Boston. The problem is that the majority of these players are his guys...and that makes it considerably tougher to make the difficult choices. In an ideal world, Chiarelli would move veterans like Tim Thomas, Michael Ryder and Andrew Ference for picks and prospects.
Umm ya. Well, if Chiarelli didn't sign him to a three year extension which nobody saw coming...
Does anyone know what Savard's exact quote was about the too many men penalty? Maybe that's what sent Neely over the edge?
thecomicbookguy
Nobody.
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
From espn.com:
"I was coming back and then no one jumped so I stayed on," Savard said. "I'm not sure what happened after that. I went back to get on the puck and then, I don't know."
Sobotka explained it this way:
"I don't really know. I just saw that Savvy was changing, and I heard my name, so I jumped on the ice and there were six guys on the ice.
"I thought he was coming for a change. I didn't see that he went back for the backcheck."
Sobotka didn't want to get into who called his name. It doesn't matter. Obviously more than one person thought Savard was getting a change and his decision to not hit the bench cost the Bruins.
If there was any question about who was at fault, coach Claude Julien cleared it up without criticizing anyone by name.
"We had a player come to the bench and had his stick up like he wanted to change, and he changes his mind and we had the next centerman jumping on," Julien said. "So they made that call."
To his credit, Chiarelli has built a solid core of young talent in Boston. The problem is that the majority of these players are his guys...and that makes it considerably tougher to make the difficult choices. In an ideal world, Chiarelli would move veterans like Tim Thomas, Michael Ryder and Andrew Ference for picks and prospects.
Umm ya. Well, if Chiarelli didn't sign him to a three year extension which nobody saw coming...
Does anyone know what Savard's exact quote was about the too many men penalty? Maybe that's what sent Neely over the edge?
From espn.com:
"I was coming back and then no one jumped so I stayed on," Savard said. "I'm not sure what happened after that. I went back to get on the puck and then, I don't know."
Sobotka explained it this way:
"I don't really know. I just saw that Savvy was changing, and I heard my name, so I jumped on the ice and there were six guys on the ice.
"I thought he was coming for a change. I didn't see that he went back for the backcheck."
Sobotka didn't want to get into who called his name. It doesn't matter. Obviously more than one person thought Savard was getting a change and his decision to not hit the bench cost the Bruins.
If there was any question about who was at fault, coach Claude Julien cleared it up without criticizing anyone by name.
"We had a player come to the bench and had his stick up like he wanted to change, and he changes his mind and we had the next centerman jumping on," Julien said. "So they made that call."
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
Eh, that doesn't seem nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Savard didn't mention anybody by name and didn't directly blame Sobotka. Would it have been better for him to take full responsibility? Absolutely, but is that quote somehow the reason they want to move him?
Eh, that doesn't seem nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Savard didn't mention anybody by name and didn't directly blame Sobotka. Would it have been better for him to take full responsibility? Absolutely, but is that quote somehow the reason they want to move him?
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
Neither Ference nor Thomas are likely to go anywhere as their contracts give them negative value and Ference was just extended (inexplicably, I might add). Ryder has some value for a team that needs some forward depth. Sure, his scoring touch is mostly gone, but he played very good two-way hockey last year and despite his $4 million cap hit, it's an expiring contract for a team looking for a quick stop-gap, or a team like the Islanders who might need to get above the minimum (heard some chatter on the NHL Network aboot this).
The Savard stuff, though, I think is dead in the water. Despite a few reports from the Toronto media claiming they were going to get him and a few idiot reporters in Boston parroting those same rumors, it's all been pure speculation with nearly nothing to back it up. Sure, Neely fanned the flames with his comments a little and we have the words of the doddering old fool who used to ruin (sorry, I mean run) this team from a few years ago, but that's it. Usually where there's this much smoke there's fire, but I think (and hope) that this is all pure, unadulterated media bull****.
Neither Ference nor Thomas are likely to go anywhere as their contracts give them negative value and Ference was just extended (inexplicably, I might add). Ryder has some value for a team that needs some forward depth. Sure, his scoring touch is mostly gone, but he played very good two-way hockey last year and despite his $4 million cap hit, it's an expiring contract for a team looking for a quick stop-gap, or a team like the Islanders who might need to get above the minimum (heard some chatter on the NHL Network aboot this).
The Savard stuff, though, I think is dead in the water. Despite a few reports from the Toronto media claiming they were going to get him and a few idiot reporters in Boston parroting those same rumors, it's all been pure speculation with nearly nothing to back it up. Sure, Neely fanned the flames with his comments a little and we have the words of the doddering old fool who used to ruin (sorry, I mean run) this team from a few years ago, but that's it. Usually where there's this much smoke there's fire, but I think (and hope) that this is all pure, unadulterated media bull****.
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
Ryder has scored 54 goals in two years with the Bruins (playoffs included).
He's not the complete bum some people think he is. I don't expect him to match his 27 from two years ago, but I think he has more than 18 of last year in the regular season. I think he scores 22 this year.
Ryder has scored 54 goals in two years with the Bruins (playoffs included).
He's not the complete bum some people think he is. I don't expect him to match his 27 from two years ago, but I think he has more than 18 of last year in the regular season. I think he scores 22 this year.
OvahInDovah
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Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
Some updates from around the league today:
* Rob Niedermayer signs a 1 yr deal with Buffalo for 1.15M plus bonuses.
* Michal Nylander waived by the Capitals today. Cap hit of 4.875M (real salary this year is only 3M).
* Jeff Schultz reups in Washington; 4 yrs/11M.
Some updates from around the league today:
* Rob Niedermayer signs a 1 yr deal with Buffalo for 1.15M plus bonuses.
* Michal Nylander waived by the Capitals today. Cap hit of 4.875M (real salary this year is only 3M).
* Jeff Schultz reups in Washington; 4 yrs/11M.
OvahInDovah
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Jon
Say, this is nice.
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
He could have gone to Sweden to torment PJ Axelson.
He could have gone to Sweden to torment PJ Axelson.
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
That whole 4.875 goes towards their cap?
That whole 4.875 goes towards their cap?
OvahInDovah
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Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
I believe that this is a move just to see if anyone claims him; similar to what we saw with Souray last week. My guess is that with that cap hit, he will go unclaimed. And he'll essentially be in limbo.
I'm not sure if Washington has any players left that filed for arbitration now that Schultz has signed. If they do, there's a possibility that if a deal does not get worked out between the club and the arbitration eligible player and it goes to hearing, that the Caps could then potentially buy out someone after the arbitration award.
Not sure if anyone else (GLM?) can add to my understanding of the post arbitration award buyout.
Edit: The other reason that they're doing this is that "loans" to another league (he was in the KHL last year IIRC) have to be negotiated each year, and I think he has to go through waivers first here in the NHL.
I believe that this is a move just to see if anyone claims him; similar to what we saw with Souray last week. My guess is that with that cap hit, he will go unclaimed. And he'll essentially be in limbo.
I'm not sure if Washington has any players left that filed for arbitration now that Schultz has signed. If they do, there's a possibility that if a deal does not get worked out between the club and the arbitration eligible player and it goes to hearing, that the Caps could then potentially buy out someone after the arbitration award.
Not sure if anyone else (GLM?) can add to my understanding of the post arbitration award buyout.
Edit: The other reason that they're doing this is that "loans" to another league (he was in the KHL last year IIRC) have to be negotiated each year, and I think he has to go through waivers first here in the NHL.
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GreatLakerMohawk
Mushroom Cloud-Laying Mofo
Re: 2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink
They waived him to see if someone who desperately needed a wildly under performing and selfish #2 center would take him. His cap hit blows, but he's only due to be paid $3 million this season. If his cap hit was $3 million, I think someone would take a shot on him. As it is, no way.
The Caps have had him buried in the minors the last two years basically so the money doesn't hurt their cap. It was a brutally bad signing from the get-go for the Caps. The Oilers have to be thankful that he gave them the finger to sign in Washington. The Caps had Nylander loaned out to the AHL Griffins for a spell last year. He ended up playing for Jokerit in Finland for a few games last year.
The guy is basically radioactive at this point NHL-wise. If the Caps can bury his money again they'll be happy as I doubt anyone wants him.
They waived him to see if someone who desperately needed a wildly under performing and selfish #2 center would take him. His cap hit blows, but he's only due to be paid $3 million this season. If his cap hit was $3 million, I think someone would take a shot on him. As it is, no way.
The Caps have had him buried in the minors the last two years basically so the money doesn't hurt their cap. It was a brutally bad signing from the get-go for the Caps. The Oilers have to be thankful that he gave them the finger to sign in Washington. The Caps had Nylander loaned out to the AHL Griffins for a spell last year. He ended up playing for Jokerit in Finland for a few games last year.
The guy is basically radioactive at this point NHL-wise. If the Caps can bury his money again they'll be happy as I doubt anyone wants him.