PrezdeJohnson09
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Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
Wouldn't he have to sit out a semester transfering from D-I to D-III?
Wouldn't he have to sit out a semester transfering from D-I to D-III?
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2010 Division III Commitments
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d3follower
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Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
It's the other way around - a transfer from D3 to D1 (Utica to UMass) would require that he sit out a year but there are no restrictions on transferring from D1 to D3.
It's the other way around - a transfer from D3 to D1 (Utica to UMass) would require that he sit out a year but there are no restrictions on transferring from D1 to D3.
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
Pio #1, you should hit up Don Cahoon (head coach at UMass) with an e-mail. That's some sensitive inside info you've got there on one of his recruits. It's not very often that D1 schools offer roster spots and/or scholarships to a student athlete with the open intention of staying only one semester before jumping ship to play at a D3 school. Doesn't make much sense when you think about it, eh?
Pio #1, you should hit up Don Cahoon (head coach at UMass) with an e-mail. That's some sensitive inside info you've got there on one of his recruits. It's not very often that D1 schools offer roster spots and/or scholarships to a student athlete with the open intention of staying only one semester before jumping ship to play at a D3 school. Doesn't make much sense when you think about it, eh?
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
I found the statement Pioneer 1 made odd. I have also known Kiley was a recruited walk on for UMass for quite some time now, and I find it hard to believe he would leave UMass for Utica. What is the speculation based on? Playing time I suspect?
I found the statement Pioneer 1 made odd. I have also known Kiley was a recruited walk on for UMass for quite some time now, and I find it hard to believe he would leave UMass for Utica. What is the speculation based on? Playing time I suspect?
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Nate LePage, Siena '13
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
I would say this speculation is made based on one (or both) of two things:
Playing time, and wishingful thinking.
I would say this speculation is made based on one (or both) of two things:
Playing time, and wishingful thinking.
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Nate LePage, Siena '13
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
1 removed from Wesleyan
1 added to Bowdoin
1 added to Williams
2 added to Middlebury
2010-11 Division III Commitments
1 removed from Wesleyan
1 added to Bowdoin
1 added to Williams
2 added to Middlebury
2010-11 Division III Commitments
Matthew Webb
Whiner.
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
Five more to Stout and one each to St. Scholastica, Hamline, Concordia-MN, Finlandia and Northland.
Also updated a few links and corrected the statistics for Liam Brennan (Marian).
2010-11 Division III Commitments
Five more to Stout and one each to St. Scholastica, Hamline, Concordia-MN, Finlandia and Northland.
Also updated a few links and corrected the statistics for Liam Brennan (Marian).
2010-11 Division III Commitments
d3follower
Registered User
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
This excellent Neumann commitment is not showing up on the commitments list . Ryan Dreger was the second-leading scorer in the Manitoba JHL with 99 points this past season and looks like a big time pick up for Neumann . . .
This excellent Neumann commitment is not showing up on the commitments list . Ryan Dreger was the second-leading scorer in the Manitoba JHL with 99 points this past season and looks like a big time pick up for Neumann . . .
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Nate LePage, Siena '13
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
Sorry, must have missed your initial post about him
1 more to Neumann
2010-11 Division III Commitments
Sorry, must have missed your initial post about him
1 more to Neumann
2010-11 Division III Commitments
Matthew Webb
Whiner.
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
Added. Kind of neat how I hop on to add him myself and I see Nathanael is already on it.
****it, and now he beats my post by about two seconds!
Edit: And sorry about another email on the Buff St. recruit, Nathanael. Somehow I overlooked him on the list...youve already got him on there so disregard.
Added. Kind of neat how I hop on to add him myself and I see Nathanael is already on it.
****it, and now he beats my post by about two seconds!
Edit: And sorry about another email on the Buff St. recruit, Nathanael. Somehow I overlooked him on the list...youve already got him on there so disregard.
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Matthew Webb
Whiner.
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
I found the same profile that I'm assuming stouthockey.com did (130 lbs) but it was from 2007 or 2008. I couldn't find anything more recent so I guessed at 160. Not ideal, but it's gotta be closer to the truth than 130 is.
Actually, after another quick look this appears more recent so that's what I'm going to go with.
I found the same profile that I'm assuming stouthockey.com did (130 lbs) but it was from 2007 or 2008. I couldn't find anything more recent so I guessed at 160. Not ideal, but it's gotta be closer to the truth than 130 is.
Actually, after another quick look this appears more recent so that's what I'm going to go with.
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Spartanspear
New member
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
Well --With all the hard work put forth uncovering commitments (Thanks to the two of you!), and approximately 1 month until classes. Who are the big winners securing commitments?
Well --With all the hard work put forth uncovering commitments (Thanks to the two of you!), and approximately 1 month until classes. Who are the big winners securing commitments?
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Nate LePage, Siena '13
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
1 more to Hamilton
2010-11 Division III Commitments
It's really hard to tell. Each of these recruits comes from a different league, with a different "style" of play. Some leagues are goal-happy, where 75+ points is the average. Some leagues are defensive, where 1.xx GAA and .9xx save percentage is the norm.
A lot of these guys have good-looking stat lines, but that will very likely only translate into good college numbers for a handful. But a lot of intangible factors, ones that don't show up on the stats sheet, go in to determining which ones will be successful collegiate student-athletes.
My best guess is that the biggest "winners" in this recruiting race would be the programs that fielded solid teams in 09-10, didn't lose a lot, and at least managed to cover their losses. In the east, the teams that stick out to me are Plattsburgh and Middlebury. Both only graduated a few.
Middlebury lost a solid goalie in Kennedy, but Yanchek was just as solid, played about twice the minutes this season, and will still be on for 2 more years. They keep their top 3 scorers, and 5 of the 7 who had at least 20 points. They've picked up a few prep kids with solid numbers for their leagues, including a goaltender, as well as a couple of kids from Delbarton in New Jersey (that school that's been talked about recently on the D3 in the Pros thread, having contributed the like of Alex Smigelski as well as some DI/Draft-calibre players).
Plattsburgh graduated a whopping 3 players. Willock's 23 points, Farrow's 17, and breslin's presence on the blue line will all be missed. But Plattsburgh had a solid team throughout the year, only losing to teams that made the final four (and Middlebury, whom they beat to get to Placid themselves), and already have the guys who can step it up. This will be the last season for Satim and Clarke, who are always offensive threats, and they will certainly be out to finish their careers on a high note. The Cardinals have pulled in solid junior players. None are really standout players on the stat sheet, but it certainly appears at a glance to be enough to cover the 3 graduates. I think Plattsburgh's best move this offseason was picking up Sam Foley. Solid goalie, when compared to the stats of other goalies, and it'll definitely be a good addition to the Leis-Williams pair. With Rossy gone, Plattsburgh has a solid group of 3 goaltenders.
Oswego and Norwich were both VERY good teams this past season (duh), and both have indeed pulled in some good (or great) recruits. But Oswego has lost Selleck, Musselwhite (2 of their biggest offensive threats), Lyon (a huge defensive threat), and KGT... it's going to be one helluva battle to recover after these losses (and I'm still not 100% confident that Beckwith can sustain it for a season... 2 years he's had an opportunity to start, and both times he lost that position). Norwich, on the other hand, has pulled in a couple GREAT goalscorers (not that they necessarily needed it), and one player that I understand was a solid presence on the blue line in junors, but they have some definite questions. Not to say that Dubois isn't a solid goaltender, but if they had at least one more goalie with good numbers, I'd put them as one of the recruiting "winners" from the east along with Plattsburgh and Middlebury.
Now, this is only looking at the east, I'll let Webb speak to the recruiting situation in the West. Also know that any of these recruits could be "the big one" that brings their team to the national spotlight. Especially with those teams that are essentially bringing in a new team, any of these teams could compete for a title this year. We'll never know until, well, tourny time. Elmira, Manhattanville, Utica, and a handful of the other SUNYs have certainly done a spectacular job. This is going to be a good season.
Also, it should be noted that the list is very likely nowhere near complete. Clearly, Norwich can't field a team without another goaltender. Plattsburgh and Elmira each have 1 more that I don't know the name of yet, because the teams and players have agreed to keep it all under wraps until rosters are announced, and I'm sure many other teams are doing the exact same thing. And of course, you never know when a Ryan Klingensmith is going to try out for the team as a walk-on.
Anyway, this is just my opinion. It might be spot-on. It might be partially right. Or, it might just be a bunch of crap.
1 more to Hamilton
2010-11 Division III Commitments
It's really hard to tell. Each of these recruits comes from a different league, with a different "style" of play. Some leagues are goal-happy, where 75+ points is the average. Some leagues are defensive, where 1.xx GAA and .9xx save percentage is the norm.
A lot of these guys have good-looking stat lines, but that will very likely only translate into good college numbers for a handful. But a lot of intangible factors, ones that don't show up on the stats sheet, go in to determining which ones will be successful collegiate student-athletes.
My best guess is that the biggest "winners" in this recruiting race would be the programs that fielded solid teams in 09-10, didn't lose a lot, and at least managed to cover their losses. In the east, the teams that stick out to me are Plattsburgh and Middlebury. Both only graduated a few.
Middlebury lost a solid goalie in Kennedy, but Yanchek was just as solid, played about twice the minutes this season, and will still be on for 2 more years. They keep their top 3 scorers, and 5 of the 7 who had at least 20 points. They've picked up a few prep kids with solid numbers for their leagues, including a goaltender, as well as a couple of kids from Delbarton in New Jersey (that school that's been talked about recently on the D3 in the Pros thread, having contributed the like of Alex Smigelski as well as some DI/Draft-calibre players).
Plattsburgh graduated a whopping 3 players. Willock's 23 points, Farrow's 17, and breslin's presence on the blue line will all be missed. But Plattsburgh had a solid team throughout the year, only losing to teams that made the final four (and Middlebury, whom they beat to get to Placid themselves), and already have the guys who can step it up. This will be the last season for Satim and Clarke, who are always offensive threats, and they will certainly be out to finish their careers on a high note. The Cardinals have pulled in solid junior players. None are really standout players on the stat sheet, but it certainly appears at a glance to be enough to cover the 3 graduates. I think Plattsburgh's best move this offseason was picking up Sam Foley. Solid goalie, when compared to the stats of other goalies, and it'll definitely be a good addition to the Leis-Williams pair. With Rossy gone, Plattsburgh has a solid group of 3 goaltenders.
Oswego and Norwich were both VERY good teams this past season (duh), and both have indeed pulled in some good (or great) recruits. But Oswego has lost Selleck, Musselwhite (2 of their biggest offensive threats), Lyon (a huge defensive threat), and KGT... it's going to be one helluva battle to recover after these losses (and I'm still not 100% confident that Beckwith can sustain it for a season... 2 years he's had an opportunity to start, and both times he lost that position). Norwich, on the other hand, has pulled in a couple GREAT goalscorers (not that they necessarily needed it), and one player that I understand was a solid presence on the blue line in junors, but they have some definite questions. Not to say that Dubois isn't a solid goaltender, but if they had at least one more goalie with good numbers, I'd put them as one of the recruiting "winners" from the east along with Plattsburgh and Middlebury.
Now, this is only looking at the east, I'll let Webb speak to the recruiting situation in the West. Also know that any of these recruits could be "the big one" that brings their team to the national spotlight. Especially with those teams that are essentially bringing in a new team, any of these teams could compete for a title this year. We'll never know until, well, tourny time. Elmira, Manhattanville, Utica, and a handful of the other SUNYs have certainly done a spectacular job. This is going to be a good season.
Also, it should be noted that the list is very likely nowhere near complete. Clearly, Norwich can't field a team without another goaltender. Plattsburgh and Elmira each have 1 more that I don't know the name of yet, because the teams and players have agreed to keep it all under wraps until rosters are announced, and I'm sure many other teams are doing the exact same thing. And of course, you never know when a Ryan Klingensmith is going to try out for the team as a walk-on.
Anyway, this is just my opinion. It might be spot-on. It might be partially right. Or, it might just be a bunch of crap.
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norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
Any word on where Rossy is going - or is he just leaving the team and continuing his education?
Looks like Bryan Hince along with University of Wisconsin Stout's Derek Hanson will be trying out for the Ice Bears this October.
... With Rossy gone, Plattsburgh has a solid group of 3 goaltenders...
Any word on where Rossy is going - or is he just leaving the team and continuing his education?
Looks like Bryan Hince along with University of Wisconsin Stout's Derek Hanson will be trying out for the Ice Bears this October.
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
I don't think they will be that bad off without Selleck, remember he faded toward the end of the season and I think a first line of Lags, Fox and Boots will be just as potent. Musselwhite will be missed because of his PK work but I think Kelly can pick up the slack. Lyon's leadership,more then anything, may be missed, we'll see how the new captains lead. I think Beckwith will have no problem filling in for KGT. Granted he lost the starters position but it wasn't because of poor play. Freshman year he was nursing an injury which required surgery in the off season and last season he gets sick for one weekend and KGT performs exceptionally. When Beckwith was called upon he was more then up to the task.
1 more to Hamilton
2010-11 Division III Commitments
But Oswego has lost Selleck, Musselwhite (2 of their biggest offensive threats), Lyon (a huge defensive threat), and KGT... it's going to be one helluva battle to recover after these losses (and I'm still not 100% confident that Beckwith can sustain it for a season... 2 years he's had an opportunity to start, and both times he lost that position). .
I don't think they will be that bad off without Selleck, remember he faded toward the end of the season and I think a first line of Lags, Fox and Boots will be just as potent. Musselwhite will be missed because of his PK work but I think Kelly can pick up the slack. Lyon's leadership,more then anything, may be missed, we'll see how the new captains lead. I think Beckwith will have no problem filling in for KGT. Granted he lost the starters position but it wasn't because of poor play. Freshman year he was nursing an injury which required surgery in the off season and last season he gets sick for one weekend and KGT performs exceptionally. When Beckwith was called upon he was more then up to the task.
93GreatLaker
Registered User
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
I agree with you on Beckwith. If he stays healthy he is every bit as good as KGT. In regards to Selleck, while he may have "faded" down the stretch, he did still average over a point a game in the 2nd half of the season and was only held off the scoresheet 3 times over the last 15 games. Not too bad considering teams without a doubt knew who he was and were accounting for him all of the time. It is much tougher for a player that has dominated the first half of a season to duplicate their efforts in the latter half.
I agree with you on Beckwith. If he stays healthy he is every bit as good as KGT. In regards to Selleck, while he may have "faded" down the stretch, he did still average over a point a game in the 2nd half of the season and was only held off the scoresheet 3 times over the last 15 games. Not too bad considering teams without a doubt knew who he was and were accounting for him all of the time. It is much tougher for a player that has dominated the first half of a season to duplicate their efforts in the latter half.
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
I think what helped Selleck in the first half was that line played unselfishly and he and Fox benefitted from that. In the 2nd half there didn't appear to be that unselfish play and that line couldn't put up the same numbers. However, it could also be that teams adjusted to that lines play. We'll see how the new 1st line plays this year and hopefully egos won't interfer with another stellar year.
I think what helped Selleck in the first half was that line played unselfishly and he and Fox benefitted from that. In the 2nd half there didn't appear to be that unselfish play and that line couldn't put up the same numbers. However, it could also be that teams adjusted to that lines play. We'll see how the new 1st line plays this year and hopefully egos won't interfer with another stellar year.
Re: 2010 Division III Commitments
At the risk of passing off bad information I was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny that Dan Bremner (forward Mercyhurst College) has transfered and would play out his senior season for Oswego? He supposedly has friends on the team and would like nothing more than to win a championship. Word has it that he was excused from his scholarship for non-hockey related disciplinary reasons. Great news for the Lakers if this, in fact, is true..
At the risk of passing off bad information I was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny that Dan Bremner (forward Mercyhurst College) has transfered and would play out his senior season for Oswego? He supposedly has friends on the team and would like nothing more than to win a championship. Word has it that he was excused from his scholarship for non-hockey related disciplinary reasons. Great news for the Lakers if this, in fact, is true..