10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

[bunt_q]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

I see what point you're making but that was local teams. I think the question Brent is asking is if we can draw that amount for say...UND/UMD and Miami vs. UNO??? I am not sure if we could. I know we did well with the Regionals and the F4...I would hope that translates to the Conference.

I think we'll be fine. They'll make you buy a ticket for both of the semis, and there's a pretty good shot you'll have a DU or a CC or a UND, any of which would probably be enough to sell 10k of those. And the championship game, that's easy. Denver sells out some crazy weird stuff, I think three hockey games every 2 or 3 years will be pretty easy for the Metro Sports Commission to market.

And as for doomsday speculation, UAH folded already. And I predict they are the first of a few.

Oh please. You cannot blame UAH on the NCHC, the Big 10, or any of what's being discussed in this thread. Two words - red herring. UAH's fate was sealed on August 11, 2009 (if my quick google of CCHA-rejection-day is accurate), long before the NCHC was a glimmer in anybody's eye. As for the rest... yes, you are predicting. And I am predicting the opposite. Polish your crystal ball, and I'll polish mine.

The tournament thing sucks. Nothing better than effing Detroit in the spring.

Ech... sorry.

 

[dubbie31]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

I think we'll be fine. They'll make you buy a ticket for both of the semis, and there's a pretty good shot you'll have a DU or a CC or a UND, any of which would probably be enough to sell 10k of those. And the championship game, that's easy. Denver sells out some crazy weird stuff, I think three hockey games every 2 or 3 years will be pretty easy for the Metro Sports Commission to market.



Oh please. You cannot blame UAH on the NCHC, the Big 10, or any of what's being discussed in this thread. Two words - red herring. UAH's fate was sealed on August 11, 2009 (if my quick google of CCHA-rejection-day is accurate), long before the NCHC was a glimmer in anybody's eye. As for the rest... yes, you are predicting. And I am predicting the opposite. Polish your crystal ball, and I'll polish mine.



Ech... sorry.

We don't need anyone polishing their balls on this thread!

 

[The Rube]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

I can blame UAH on the mega-conferences. Yes, CCHA is the original culprit, but with the B1G Mistake forming, there was still a chance UAH could have survived. Nope. Granted, their guy is also very much to blame. Either way, there will be more schools like that that fold because of this shakeup in the sport.

I highly doubt DU will travel to BGSU, and how many trips can schools like that make, even with some financial compensation? And schools like that won't get revenue needed by facing teams like UAA, etc. There are already rumors about Mankato from some of those locals.

So instead of growing the sport, right now it is trending towards the opposite. UND/DU could have been heralded by staying in the WCHA and becoming the face of that conference, taking the place of MN. Nope. They wanted to put on big boy pants too. It was a terrible decision for the sport.

And yes, I'm a MN fan, and we had zero choice in joining the B1G Mistake. I hate it.

 

[bunt_q]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

So instead of growing the sport, right now it is trending towards the opposite. UND/DU could have been heralded by staying in the WCHA and becoming the face of that conference, taking the place of MN. Nope. They wanted to put on big boy pants too. It was a terrible decision for the sport.

We'll see... (polishing my ball).

Seems to me we gained Penn State, and lost UAH. All in all, the last 12 months have been a net win for the sport. We'll have to wait and see what the future holds. I am not as afraid of change as some. I was also less satisfied with the status quo than some. I viewed college hockey as stagnant; it certainly wasn't growing gangbusters. Well, it's not stagnant anymore.

If I was Tech, I'd rather win against LSSU than lose to North Dakota. I'd rather win the new WCHA than continue to lose and lose and lose some more. Seems to me that'd be good for the program, no? That's what everybody keep telling us - the NCHC will be bad, because somebody is going to lose in the new league and lose fan support. Well isn't the converse true - the new-look WCHA will be good, because somebody new will win and gain fan support?

 

[The Rube]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

We'll see... (polishing my ball).

Seems to me we gained Penn State, and lost UAH. All in all, the last 12 months have been a net win for the sport. We'll have to wait and see what the future holds. I am not as afraid of change as some. I was also less satisfied with the status quo than some. I viewed college hockey as stagnant; it certainly wasn't growing gangbusters. Well, it's not stagnant anymore.

If I was Tech, I'd rather win against LSSU than lose to North Dakota. I'd rather win the new WCHA than continue to lose and lose and lose some more. Seems to me that'd be good for the program, no? That's what everybody keep telling us - the NCHC will be bad, because somebody is going to lose in the new league and lose fan support. Well isn't the converse true - the new-look WCHA will be good, because somebody new will win and gain fan support?

Not necessarily. Still need the tourney revenue. MN/WI or no MN/WI, the F5 at the X was THE tourney of all tourneys. Now that's gone. And again, not everyone can be a winner in the Nacho Conference. There will be bottom feeders. Personally, I hope WMU cleans everyone's clocks in that conference as a big middle finger for the late pity-invite.

 

[giwan]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

I thinOh please. You cannot blame UAH on the NCHC, the Big 10, or any of what's being discussed in this thread. Two words - red herring. UAH's fate was sealed on August 11, 2009 (if my quick google of CCHA-rejection-day is accurate), long before the NCHC was a glimmer in anybody's eye. As for the rest... yes, you are predicting. And I am predicting the opposite. Polish your crystal ball, and I'll polish mine.Ech... sorry.

Since there is nothing like a good rumor what possible programs would be next?

 

[bunt_q]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

Not necessarily. Still need the tourney revenue. MN/WI or no MN/WI, the F5 at the X was THE tourney of all tourneys. Now that's gone. And again, not everyone can be a winner in the Nacho Conference. There will be bottom feeders. Personally, I hope WMU cleans everyone's clocks in that conference as a big middle finger for the late pity-invite.

If you want the late pity-invite win, then it's St. Cloud you should be rooting for.

The tourney has been discussed to death here. For you guys, it's the welfare argument. You guys are mad because DU stole the Soo and UND was your payday. But I am sure you'll figure something out in the new WCHA. I hear Detroit is nice in the spring.

I can tell you, from where we sit, the tournament was a lot less exciting. I am sure the NCHC tourney will be fine. 8 teams is nice and round - no awkward play-ins. A rotation, say Denver - Grand Forks - Omaha - Twin Cities - someplace east (Chicago/Detroit) will work nicely. Denver for CC/DU will sell enough. Like I said before, 15,000/12 is the same as 10,000/8, so the bar is lower to begin with, and the potential is higher. My worry about Grand Forks is not that it'll fail, but that nobody else will be able to get a ticket! (12,000 is plenty) Omaha seems to support well, and it's relatively central. I am sure St. Cloud/Duluth can fill any arena they want in Minnesota. Or at least 10k, which is good enough. I don't know about the eastern games, but I'm not concerned. If a Frozen Four in Tampa can work, anything can for the NCHC tourney.

Since there is nothing like a good rumor what possible programs would be next?

Mankato, I assume. But I've never heard any evidence other than doomsday predictions from Mankato fans. The crystal balls in southern MN seem to be just as powerful as the ones up in the U.P.

 

[bunt_q]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

Double post, somehow.

 

[The Rube]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

bunt. You obviously missed the part where I said I was a MN fan. We were the ones handing out the welfare. DU drew nothing to the F5. There are annually more Tech fans than DU/CC fans combined at any given F5. And St, Clooud is a friggin' hyprocrite for joining the conference. Don't even get me started on them.

Edit: and SCSU really doesn't travel well. Even the short jaunt to the Twin Cities.

 

[bunt_q]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

bunt. You obviously missed the part where I said I was a MN fan. We were the ones handing out the welfare. DU drew nothing to the F5. There are annually more Tech fans than DU/CC fans combined at any given F5. And St, Clooud is a friggin' hyprocrite for joining the conference. Don't even get me started on them.

Haha, too true. I personally think they'll become one of those bottom-feeders. But you never know, there are conferences (in other sports, at least) that maintain some modicum of parity. Or at least, rotating success, which would be good enough. I'd prefer not to have perennial bottom-feeders that never escape, but if you're never down you lose perspective, too, I think.

EDIT:

Edit: and SCSU really doesn't travel well. Even the short jaunt to the Twin Cities.

That's okay, they (and Duluth) will need a turn to host too. If the stands are full of Gopher fans who'd rather stay and boo the Soo, rather than partake in a Big 10 spring in Detroit, well, it's still butts in seats!

 

[stuckinwi]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

7-2... Holy smokes. Didn't see that coming. Gwoz is trashing a hotel room tonight!

 

[The Darkness]

Tech sweeps.

5-1, 4-3.

So close. Tomorrow will be a closer game.

 

[MagnessMan]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

Great effort by the Huskies from start to finish tonight. You guys came to win. Looks like a new era for MTU. There is no other program that deserves it more. Sounds like the new coach has them working hard. I'm thinking you guys have a good chance to sweep and should be in the top 20 if you do.

 

[stuckinwi]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

Great effort by the Huskies from start to finish tonight. You guys came to win. Looks like a new era for MTU. There is no other program that deserves it more. Sounds like the new coach has them working hard. I'm thinking you guys have a good chance to sweep and should be in the top 20 if you do.

It's a beautiful thing. The sweep over Wisconsin wasn't a fluke, they are a different team from last year, from the last 10 years. Truly exciting to see. This is way I'm ****ed about the NCHC!!!

 

[Biddco]

It's a beautiful thing. The sweep over Wisconsin wasn't a fluke, they are a different team from last year, from the last 10 years. Truly exciting to see. This is way I'm ****ed about the NCHC!!!

Cue the insufferable NCHC related gloated in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

 

[stuckinwi]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

Cue the insufferable NCHC related gloated in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

Don't we deserve a bit of it? I mean... aren't we the team that's not worthy of your fancy pants new league?

 

[CCtig]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

I LOVE YOU TECH! PARTY ALL NIGHT LONG!! DU (or is it Metro State?) is over..... rated, and Mich Tech is under..... rated. Bring it again Saturday Tech!!

 

[geezer]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

If I was Tech, I'd rather win against LSSU than lose to North Dakota. I'd rather win the new WCHA than continue to lose and lose and lose some more.

hee hee. this gloating sounds funny now that Tech has made a habit of upsetting Denver. How's that winning attitude holding up?
A couple of observations tonight. Tech played a good first period, and DU made 3 major blunders that lost the game from their perspective: coming out absolutely flat in the first, taking some stupid penalties, and that terrible decision to pull the goalie with 7 minutes left when the way DU was playing, the outcome was still far from certain. As soon as he was pulled, I turned to my wife and said, "that's the stupidest thing I've ever seen a coach do. He just gave the game to Tech." sure enough, that was it. Can't imagine what he was thinking keeping him on the bench, other than wanting to rub in the loss to his own team???
DU was the victim of some questionable penalty calls in the 2nd period that held off the seemingly inevitable comeback, but they also got away with a flagrant stick to the head after a whistle, for which they only got two minutes so... I don't feel sorry.

 

[ronmexico]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

DU can... SUCK IT!

 

[Hatch_man]

Re: 10/28-10/29 Michigan Tech vs. Denver - Don't Leave without your Ice Cream

Great win for Mi Tech!!!! Couple questions though, I hope someone can answer them..

1st -- Why was the Denver goal disallowed in the 2nd period (It was waved off immediately)?? I saw the replay numerous times and the DU player was out of the crease, didn't touch the goaltender, and the puck went clearly off his stick(at least from what I saw).

2nd -- what was Gwoz thinking leaving the net empty after giving up the first empty-netter??? My best guess is that it was a psychological game to make the kids mad and more focused for sat. night. It felt like he was sending the message to his guys that if you are gonna embarrass me by getting beat by MTU 4-1, I'm gonna embarrass you by not putting the goalie back in.

Finally, I am glad to have Milos back in the lineup