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Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
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Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
I thought Maricic played pretty well after some initial jitters. Kind of a tough spot to throw him into with so little playing time. If Allain did chew him out it adds to my lack of respect for him. I was surprised that Yale didn't put up a better effort. It definitely looks to me like they have been degrading since the first Union game. Still if they can get it together they could be a dangerous team in the playoffs.
I thought Maricic played pretty well after some initial jitters. Kind of a tough spot to throw him into with so little playing time. If Allain did chew him out it adds to my lack of respect for him. I was surprised that Yale didn't put up a better effort. It definitely looks to me like they have been degrading since the first Union game. Still if they can get it together they could be a dangerous team in the playoffs.
MarkEagleUSA
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Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
Maricic was visibly upset as he skated to the bench. He went through the door and looked like he was heading down the tunnel when Allain ran to the end of the bench and looked to call him back, almost like telling a little child "you get back here right now". For at least several seconds it looked like Maricic was getting a tongue lashing from his coach. Then, just as quickly as it happened, he skated back to the net at the next stoppage and played a much improved game for the duration. It was but one of several oddities in last nights game, including a puck that split in half resulting in a stoppage of play and there was also a broken stick where the bottom half ended halfway up in the stands from the slot.
nopuckluck
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Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
Perhaps it wasn't a tongue lashing after all but a veteran coach and former goalie pulling him off for a quick pep talk. He certainly came back and played solid. Allain is too smart to thrash a young goalie especially because it appears we're going to need better goaltending to compete. In our 9 loses the save % is scary bad.
Perhaps it wasn't a tongue lashing after all but a veteran coach and former goalie pulling him off for a quick pep talk. He certainly came back and played solid. Allain is too smart to thrash a young goalie especially because it appears we're going to need better goaltending to compete. In our 9 loses the save % is scary bad.
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Crazy game tonight, Yale spent alot of time in the RPI end with little to show for their effort, they outshot them 2-1 but most shots were either directly into the goalies chest or just not quality shots. Merriam for RPI was outstanding in goal as was the RPI defense, which clogged the lane and clared the puck. Yale was out skated alot tonight, even to icings, in the past they have prided themselves on team speed and outhustling their opponents, it is not the case anymore. Being sub .500 for the first time in 4 years is pretty bad IMO but the losses have been close ones except for Cornell. Hopefully we have some size on defense coming in for the future recruiting classes, we also need a forward who can actually stay in front of the net for more than two seconds. Sorry for the rant, getting fed up with the bad bounces and pipes hit (two tonight). Oh BTW Whittemore sux as a ref and completely blew the Day penalty.
Crazy game tonight, Yale spent alot of time in the RPI end with little to show for their effort, they outshot them 2-1 but most shots were either directly into the goalies chest or just not quality shots. Merriam for RPI was outstanding in goal as was the RPI defense, which clogged the lane and clared the puck. Yale was out skated alot tonight, even to icings, in the past they have prided themselves on team speed and outhustling their opponents, it is not the case anymore. Being sub .500 for the first time in 4 years is pretty bad IMO but the losses have been close ones except for Cornell. Hopefully we have some size on defense coming in for the future recruiting classes, we also need a forward who can actually stay in front of the net for more than two seconds. Sorry for the rant, getting fed up with the bad bounces and pipes hit (two tonight). Oh BTW Whittemore sux as a ref and completely blew the Day penalty.
cornellgradyalefan
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Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
The SOG stat is so misleading. I wasn't at the game tonight but my observation from the Union game is that Yale's offense simply can't move the puck smartly into the offensive zone when big and mobile defensemen are standing the forwards up at the blue line and limiting the puck movement that has served them so well since the program's renaissance. Their offensive play against Union lacked poise which led to many misfires on passes and botched plays. I believed that as the freshman gained experience and as the sophomores grew into their expanded roles that the offensive flow would improve, but, if anything, they seem to be going backward.
The SOG stat is so misleading. I wasn't at the game tonight but my observation from the Union game is that Yale's offense simply can't move the puck smartly into the offensive zone when big and mobile defensemen are standing the forwards up at the blue line and limiting the puck movement that has served them so well since the program's renaissance. Their offensive play against Union lacked poise which led to many misfires on passes and botched plays. I believed that as the freshman gained experience and as the sophomores grew into their expanded roles that the offensive flow would improve, but, if anything, they seem to be going backward.
nopuckluck
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Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
I agree that we lack physical grittiness in the offensive and defensive zones and need to improve in those areas. However, don't discount the impact of soft goals on the psyche of a team. An interesting statistical category is Save %. In Yale's 8 wins this season the Save % is .950 while it is a meager .864 in the 9 losses. So, if opponents get 30 shots on goal, we'd typically let in only 1.5 in our wins and over 4 goals a game in our losses. In the RPI game, their goalie stood on his head and stole a win -- particularly in the third period. Let's get it turned around in Beantown. The Crimson are looking pretty good of late.
I agree that we lack physical grittiness in the offensive and defensive zones and need to improve in those areas. However, don't discount the impact of soft goals on the psyche of a team. An interesting statistical category is Save %. In Yale's 8 wins this season the Save % is .950 while it is a meager .864 in the 9 losses. So, if opponents get 30 shots on goal, we'd typically let in only 1.5 in our wins and over 4 goals a game in our losses. In the RPI game, their goalie stood on his head and stole a win -- particularly in the third period. Let's get it turned around in Beantown. The Crimson are looking pretty good of late.
FlagDUDE08
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Part of that seems like you're playing a great game that works against the trap, only we don't do that. It sounded like your team adapted to what RPI has thrown at your team and played the trap on us back in November (I didn't attend Black Friday this year), and it happened to work. I'm actually a little surprised you didn't try it again; you may have won.
Full credit to your goalies for great play in these past few seasons, but at least in the games I have witnessed, your goalies seem to have a bit of trouble, especially top shelf (yes, I realize that one save your goalie had on us in the second was pure highway robbery, obvious contradiction to my statement, but I'm speaking in general terms). I don't know where most of the goals have been in relation to net placement (five-hole, top shelf, stick side, etc.), but it may behoove Coach Allain (now that we don't have to play you anymore aside from maybe the playoffs
) to work with them on that.
Part of that seems like you're playing a great game that works against the trap, only we don't do that. It sounded like your team adapted to what RPI has thrown at your team and played the trap on us back in November (I didn't attend Black Friday this year), and it happened to work. I'm actually a little surprised you didn't try it again; you may have won.
Full credit to your goalies for great play in these past few seasons, but at least in the games I have witnessed, your goalies seem to have a bit of trouble, especially top shelf (yes, I realize that one save your goalie had on us in the second was pure highway robbery, obvious contradiction to my statement, but I'm speaking in general terms). I don't know where most of the goals have been in relation to net placement (five-hole, top shelf, stick side, etc.), but it may behoove Coach Allain (now that we don't have to play you anymore aside from maybe the playoffs
) to work with them on that.
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Yale/Harvard will be televised on NBC sports Network formerly Versus
http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/mice/2011-12/releases/120123_nbc
Yale/Harvard will be televised on NBC sports Network formerly Versus
http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/mice/2011-12/releases/120123_nbc
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Heading up to the Harvard game with my wife for a nice overnight in the Boston area. Anyone else from the Eli faithful going to be in attendance? Yale Athletics is hosting a get together before the game, you can pay at the door. See below.
Schley Room on the Road
Friday, Jan. 27 @Harvard
Location: Gordon Track & Athletic Center, Harvard University
6:30pm - Pre-game reception
appetizers/beer, wine & soft drinks
7:30pm - Yale vs. Harvard
beer, wine, & soft drinks will be served in the Gordon Track mezzanine between periods and for 30 minutes following the end of the game
Yale Hockey Association Members - $20
Non-Association Members & Guests - $30
Children (under 18) - $10
Please contact the Yale Hockey Association to RSVP:
203-432-1434 or
support.athletics@yale.edu
Heading up to the Harvard game with my wife for a nice overnight in the Boston area. Anyone else from the Eli faithful going to be in attendance? Yale Athletics is hosting a get together before the game, you can pay at the door. See below.
Schley Room on the Road
Friday, Jan. 27 @Harvard
Location: Gordon Track & Athletic Center, Harvard University
6:30pm - Pre-game reception
appetizers/beer, wine & soft drinks
7:30pm - Yale vs. Harvard
beer, wine, & soft drinks will be served in the Gordon Track mezzanine between periods and for 30 minutes following the end of the game
Yale Hockey Association Members - $20
Non-Association Members & Guests - $30
Children (under 18) - $10
Please contact the Yale Hockey Association to RSVP:
203-432-1434 or
support.athletics@yale.edu
bulldawg21
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Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
In regards to Sullivan: From what I hear, the original agreement, between family and Yale, was for Sullivan to play a year in the USHL and come in with the class of 2014. The family recently decided that they wanted him to be admitted to Yale with the 2013 recruiting class.
What the family doesn't realize/understand is the five hockey admission slots for the Yale men's hockey team have been committed to in '13. The Yale Hockey team can't "snap it's fingers" and add another recruiting slot just because said recruit's family thinks he's ready in 2013. The family obviously doesn't understand how it works in the Ivy League, in terms of recruiting, and seems to be more focused on Sullivan's hockey career than a Yale degree. Whatever happens, good luck to the kid. I hope whatever decision is made benefits him in the long run.
In regards to Sullivan: From what I hear, the original agreement, between family and Yale, was for Sullivan to play a year in the USHL and come in with the class of 2014. The family recently decided that they wanted him to be admitted to Yale with the 2013 recruiting class.
What the family doesn't realize/understand is the five hockey admission slots for the Yale men's hockey team have been committed to in '13. The Yale Hockey team can't "snap it's fingers" and add another recruiting slot just because said recruit's family thinks he's ready in 2013. The family obviously doesn't understand how it works in the Ivy League, in terms of recruiting, and seems to be more focused on Sullivan's hockey career than a Yale degree. Whatever happens, good luck to the kid. I hope whatever decision is made benefits him in the long run.
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That's too bad about Sullivan, it would have been nice to have another local kid on the team. Good effort at Harvard but two defensive lapses left Malcom out to dry. Nice to see they broke the losing streak in Hanover. Quite a comeback on an emotional night for Dartmouth.
That's too bad about Sullivan, it would have been nice to have another local kid on the team. Good effort at Harvard but two defensive lapses left Malcom out to dry. Nice to see they broke the losing streak in Hanover. Quite a comeback on an emotional night for Dartmouth.
Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
Just found this article about Rob O'Gara a Boston draft pick and committed to Yale next season. A big boy, which is what Yale needs on D.
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post/_/id/8398/player-perspective-rob-ogara
BTW Colin Sullivan is already off of Hiesenbergs list
Matt Beattie-RW 12/31/11 Phillips Exeter 6'3 185 12-14-92 .
Mitch Witek-D 12/12/11 Waterloo (USHL) 6'1 195 2-4-92.
Ryan Obuchowski-D 9/12/11 Indiana (USHL) 6'1 175 6-6-92 54-5-8-13-31.
Ryan Hithcock-LC 9/11/11 2014 NJ Rockets (Metro) 5'9 155 3-3-96.
Griff Martin-LD 5/26/11 2014 Avon Old Farms 6'1 175 3-19-94 .
Tim Bonner-LC 5/6/11 2012 or 2013 Tri-City (USHL) 5'8 170 8-19-92.
Alex Lyon-G 4/7/11 2013 Omaha (USHL) 6'1 200 12-9-92.
Johnny Baiocco-RW 2/3/11 2014 Delbarton 5'8 150 6-6-95.
Patrick Spano-G 1/1/11 2013 Westminster Prep 6'1 180 3-1-93.
Rob O'Gara-LD 12/29/10 Milton Prep 6'3 190 7-6-93.
John Hayden-RC 11/30/10 2014 USNDPT U17 Team 6'1 180 2-14-95.
Cody Learned-RW 8/30/10 Jr.Bruins (EJHL) 5'9 160 10-2-91 .
Michael Doherty-LW 8/21/10 2013 Groton Prep 5'11 175 8-21-93 .
Stu Wilson-LW 2/10/10 Cedar Rapids (USHL) 6' 160 11-15-91 .
Carson Cooper-LC 1/6/10 Spruce Grove (AJHL) 6' 170 3-18-92 51-6-15-21-41.
Charles Orzetti-W 8/23/08 Surrey (BCHL) 6'3 205 2-28-92
Just found this article about Rob O'Gara a Boston draft pick and committed to Yale next season. A big boy, which is what Yale needs on D.
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post/_/id/8398/player-perspective-rob-ogara
BTW Colin Sullivan is already off of Hiesenbergs list
Matt Beattie-RW 12/31/11 Phillips Exeter 6'3 185 12-14-92 .
Mitch Witek-D 12/12/11 Waterloo (USHL) 6'1 195 2-4-92.
Ryan Obuchowski-D 9/12/11 Indiana (USHL) 6'1 175 6-6-92 54-5-8-13-31.
Ryan Hithcock-LC 9/11/11 2014 NJ Rockets (Metro) 5'9 155 3-3-96.
Griff Martin-LD 5/26/11 2014 Avon Old Farms 6'1 175 3-19-94 .
Tim Bonner-LC 5/6/11 2012 or 2013 Tri-City (USHL) 5'8 170 8-19-92.
Alex Lyon-G 4/7/11 2013 Omaha (USHL) 6'1 200 12-9-92.
Johnny Baiocco-RW 2/3/11 2014 Delbarton 5'8 150 6-6-95.
Patrick Spano-G 1/1/11 2013 Westminster Prep 6'1 180 3-1-93.
Rob O'Gara-LD 12/29/10 Milton Prep 6'3 190 7-6-93.
John Hayden-RC 11/30/10 2014 USNDPT U17 Team 6'1 180 2-14-95.
Cody Learned-RW 8/30/10 Jr.Bruins (EJHL) 5'9 160 10-2-91 .
Michael Doherty-LW 8/21/10 2013 Groton Prep 5'11 175 8-21-93 .
Stu Wilson-LW 2/10/10 Cedar Rapids (USHL) 6' 160 11-15-91 .
Carson Cooper-LC 1/6/10 Spruce Grove (AJHL) 6' 170 3-18-92 51-6-15-21-41.
Charles Orzetti-W 8/23/08 Surrey (BCHL) 6'3 205 2-28-92
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nopuckluck
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Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
With former Yale assistant Kyle Wallack coaching Obuchowski at Indiana he should come in ready to go. Looking forward to seeing O'Gara as well though it's a big jump from playing defense in prep school to D1 level.
With former Yale assistant Kyle Wallack coaching Obuchowski at Indiana he should come in ready to go. Looking forward to seeing O'Gara as well though it's a big jump from playing defense in prep school to D1 level.
cornellgradyalefan
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Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
Well this confirms that there is no juice in the Yale fan base this year. Its been 5 days since anyone posted on this thread. I went to the SLU game tonight. Some observations: 1) Yale seems to get everyone's A game this year. SLU was tied for last in the ECAC going into this game, and they played like world beaters, 2) Yale is unable to sustain consistent effort through a game. They played well in the first, dreadful in the 2nd, and ok in the 3rd, 3) I was sitting across from the Yale bench and Keith looked like he wanted to be anywhere but on the bench, at times throughout the game. I have never seen him less animated behind the bench, 4) I struggle to figure out what assistant coach Red actually does. He is certainly not engaged with the players the way Kyle Wallach was throughout his tenure with Yale, 5) Kevin Peel's injury looked bad. He crashed into the boards legs first, tried to put weight on his right leg three times and couldn't and was helped awkwardly off the ice. A **** shame if that's a career-ender, and, 6) the boarding call on Laganiere in OT was chicken **** call and it cost Yale the game. There's an unwritten rule that you basically have to mug someone in OT to get a penalty. Lags checked a SLU player who then took a dive IMO and was called for boarding. The hit was in no way a penalty and was especially curious given the lack of calls on all of the hitting after the whistle that SLU was engaging in throughout the 3rd period. It was the kind of call that gives the ECAC the justifiable reputation of being the most poorly officiated league in college hockey.
Well this confirms that there is no juice in the Yale fan base this year. Its been 5 days since anyone posted on this thread. I went to the SLU game tonight. Some observations: 1) Yale seems to get everyone's A game this year. SLU was tied for last in the ECAC going into this game, and they played like world beaters, 2) Yale is unable to sustain consistent effort through a game. They played well in the first, dreadful in the 2nd, and ok in the 3rd, 3) I was sitting across from the Yale bench and Keith looked like he wanted to be anywhere but on the bench, at times throughout the game. I have never seen him less animated behind the bench, 4) I struggle to figure out what assistant coach Red actually does. He is certainly not engaged with the players the way Kyle Wallach was throughout his tenure with Yale, 5) Kevin Peel's injury looked bad. He crashed into the boards legs first, tried to put weight on his right leg three times and couldn't and was helped awkwardly off the ice. A **** shame if that's a career-ender, and, 6) the boarding call on Laganiere in OT was chicken **** call and it cost Yale the game. There's an unwritten rule that you basically have to mug someone in OT to get a penalty. Lags checked a SLU player who then took a dive IMO and was called for boarding. The hit was in no way a penalty and was especially curious given the lack of calls on all of the hitting after the whistle that SLU was engaging in throughout the 3rd period. It was the kind of call that gives the ECAC the justifiable reputation of being the most poorly officiated league in college hockey.
Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
CGYF, great post, but I would call the game SLU/ Whittimore 4 Yale 3. The officiating in this game was horrible. The hit in the third on Peel was easily boarding, the slu player had him in a vunerable position and assisted his headlong crash. The overtime penalty was a joked, a six foot three player giving a moderate check and alas the dive wins the game. Props to SLU for out playing Yale.
CGYF, great post, but I would call the game SLU/ Whittimore 4 Yale 3. The officiating in this game was horrible. The hit in the third on Peel was easily boarding, the slu player had him in a vunerable position and assisted his headlong crash. The overtime penalty was a joked, a six foot three player giving a moderate check and alas the dive wins the game. Props to SLU for out playing Yale.
cornellgradyalefan
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Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
Whittemore's call was pathetic, much like his style of refereeing. Yale was outplayed overall, but the way they carried the play in OT, they were at worst going to walk out of Ingalls that night with a tie.
Whittemore's call was pathetic, much like his style of refereeing. Yale was outplayed overall, but the way they carried the play in OT, they were at worst going to walk out of Ingalls that night with a tie.
critsports
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Re: Yale Bulldogs Hockey 2011 -2012
Was at the game myself and agree to disagree with you on part of what you and LTsatch wrote. It's the ECAC......we all know we live and die by the inconsistency of the officiating. Other than the non call on Peel (which I expected a penalty on) the referee tandem all night did let a lot of stuff go. Both coaches were working them over pretty good on non calls and to see Mike Hurlbut (SLU coach in Marsh's absence) animated and yelling at the referee's is an odd occurrence. I thought the boarding call on Langaniere in OT was the EXACT, and I repeat EXACT same call they made on Dewey in the almost identical spot to give Yale the 5 on 3 PP in the first. Yes it was OT but almost without fail if you have anyone cross check someone into the boards they are going to call it. Neither hit (Langanier's or Dewey's was egregious) but they called them both.
Believe me over the years we as I am sure you have..........have been on the bad receiving end of calls and non calls by Wittemore.
I don't know what it is about Yale that brings out the best in the Saints but I was at both games last weekend and we would have been hard pressed to beat Hamden H.S. the last few weeks as we weren't even competitive. I'm sure Allain is also pretty tired of seeing Greg Carey. He has literally been stymied all year except against your team.
Overall I thought Yale played well and I agree without the PP they had all the momentum going into the OT. The first goal SLU scored seemed to really lift the Saints (first goal in over 7 periods of hockey). Yale can still turn the puck up ice and get on the attack better than any team in the ECAC and the people I was watching with were nervous every time #9 was on the ice for you. Man that kid can play hockey.
What's with the student presence or lack of it at Ingalls? Was there just too much going on with the BB game and other stuff? I agree there wasn't alot of energy in the building.
Was at the game myself and agree to disagree with you on part of what you and LTsatch wrote. It's the ECAC......we all know we live and die by the inconsistency of the officiating. Other than the non call on Peel (which I expected a penalty on) the referee tandem all night did let a lot of stuff go. Both coaches were working them over pretty good on non calls and to see Mike Hurlbut (SLU coach in Marsh's absence) animated and yelling at the referee's is an odd occurrence. I thought the boarding call on Langaniere in OT was the EXACT, and I repeat EXACT same call they made on Dewey in the almost identical spot to give Yale the 5 on 3 PP in the first. Yes it was OT but almost without fail if you have anyone cross check someone into the boards they are going to call it. Neither hit (Langanier's or Dewey's was egregious) but they called them both.
Believe me over the years we as I am sure you have..........have been on the bad receiving end of calls and non calls by Wittemore.
I don't know what it is about Yale that brings out the best in the Saints but I was at both games last weekend and we would have been hard pressed to beat Hamden H.S. the last few weeks as we weren't even competitive. I'm sure Allain is also pretty tired of seeing Greg Carey. He has literally been stymied all year except against your team.
Overall I thought Yale played well and I agree without the PP they had all the momentum going into the OT. The first goal SLU scored seemed to really lift the Saints (first goal in over 7 periods of hockey). Yale can still turn the puck up ice and get on the attack better than any team in the ECAC and the people I was watching with were nervous every time #9 was on the ice for you. Man that kid can play hockey.
What's with the student presence or lack of it at Ingalls? Was there just too much going on with the BB game and other stuff? I agree there wasn't alot of energy in the building.