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World Soccer XXXI: Golden Generation?

2-1 final as the USMNT loses to Canada at home.

FIRE BERHALT… wait.

Hey, maybe it’s the players? (Because pretty much everyone outside of the GK Schulte played with zero urgency and totally sucked)
 
Jimjamesak said:
2-1 final as the USMNT loses to Canada at home.

FIRE BERHALT… wait.

Hey, maybe it’s the players? (Because pretty much everyone outside of the GK Schulte played with zero urgency and totally sucked)
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What's the strategy behind having a nearly 150% advantage in possession yet going down 2 goals 58 minutes in and taking half a many shots?
 
Slap Shot said:
What's the strategy behind having a nearly 150% advantage in possession yet going down 2 goals 58 minutes in and taking half a many shots?
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No strategy, the players suck. Changing coaches isn’t going to change the fact the defenders are terrible. It isn’t going to change the fact that Pulisic is 200-ply soft. It isn’t going to change the fact they can’t score.

Pochettino can maybe cover up some holes but let’s not expect the miracles that many seem to think will happen. I’m gonna keep beating this drum: The players suck and they’re ****ing soft.

At least Turner was finally dropped in favor of a goalie who actually plays, and good thing because it’s probably 4-0 if they don’t.
 
Jimjamesak said:
No strategy, the players suck. Changing coaches isn’t going to change the fact the defenders are terrible. It isn’t going to change the fact that Pulisic is 200-ply soft. It isn’t going to change the fact they can’t score.

Pochettino can maybe cover up some holes but let’s not expect the miracles that many seem to think will happen. I’m gonna keep beating this drum: The players suck and they’re ****ing soft.

At least Turner was finally dropped in favor of a goalie who actually plays, and good thing because it’s probably 4-0 if they don’t.
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You really think the USMNT has less talent than Canada? Complete bullsh**t.
 
Interesting that most organizations have banned Russia AND Belarus, but UEFA only banned Russia. Saw Belarus is playing in the Nations League this morning.
 
Slap Shot said:
You really think the USMNT has less talent than Canada? Complete bullsh**t.
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Uh, Canada has Jonathan David and Alphonso Davies, widely regarded as the two best players in CONCACAF. They’re not better across the board but it’s closer than you think.

A lot of the US players’ talent is vastly overrated. The club names and league names look nice but look a little deeper and you’ll see a bunch of names that ride the bench or play near the bottom of the table.
 
Jimjamesak said:
Uh, Canada has Jonathan David and Alphonso Davies, widely regarded as the two best players in CONCACAF. They’re not better across the board but it’s closer than you think.

A lot of the US players’ talent is vastly overrated. The club names and league names look nice but look a little deeper and you’ll see a bunch of names that ride the bench or play near the bottom of the table.
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Like I said - bullshit. Canada may not be far behind, but the US on average has more talent top to bottom.
 
First Time said:
You'll never convince him the players aren't the problem and not his beloved Berhalter.
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Sure Jan, I give no ****s about Berhalter and he deserved to be fired but you do you.

The players are a huge part of the problem though, and anyone who actually takes an objective look at things would realize that.
 
Slap Shot said:
Like I said - bull****. Canada may not be far behind, but the US on average has more talent top to bottom.
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I call bull**** on your bull****. Canada is very close, just compare:

GK: Turner has dropped off of cliff without playing time, Schulte has a good future but Crepeau is just as capable.

Wingback: Robinson and Dest are very good but Alphonso Davies blows both of them out of the water (best player in CONCACAF, zero doubt) and Alistair Johnson is very capable as well. It's close but Davies gives Canada an edge.

Defense: Ream should never see the field again he's fallen that much and he got covered for a lot at Fulham, Richards is decent but is lazy and makes mistakes, Miles Robinson should probably be starting, and Cameron Carter-Vickers is at Celtic for a reason (he's not good enough). Canada has two solid Ligue 1 defenders in Cornelius and Bombito, Bombito just transfering out of Colorado for a hefty fee. It's a wash here.

Midfield: USMNT has an edge here simply due to Pulisic, but not as much as you think. Reyna, Musah, McKennie, Weah, and Adams are all talented but they barely play. Eustaquio isn't as talented but he's solid and capable, same with Choiniere. Shaffelburg and Ahmed are MLS players but solid.

Forward: Jonathan David wins here hands down. Doesn't matter who the US starts, Balogun, Pepi, Wright, and Sargent are nowhere near David.
 
And if you don't think it's the players, even the interim coach thinks it's the players.

“The mentality is on the players. Sorry, they know it.” “That mentality to fight and to run and to sacrifice, I can’t do that for them. I can’t do that for them. That’s on them.” “The trainings were intense, they were aggressive. But when the game comes, you’ve got to get going.” “The players are the ones who bring that. Coaches can only get you so far on the mentality perspective.” “They’ve got to search deep inside. That’s something I challenge them with.”
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Jimjamesak said:
Sure Jan, I give no ****s about Berhalter and he deserved to be fired but you do you.

The players are a huge part of the problem though, and anyone who actually takes an objective look at things would realize that.
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The players are...and so is the coaching...the directors...the structure.... EVERYTHING'S wrong with USA soccer. But there was one person who kept pimping Berhalter...look in the mirror.
And fuck your Jan shit. Either learn how to actually debate with those who disagree with you without ​​​​​​your juvenile name calling or fuck off.
 
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First Time said:
The players are...and so is the coaching...the directors...the structure.... EVERYTHING'S wrong with USA soccer. But there was one person who kept pimping Berhalter...look in the mirror.
And **** your Jan ****. Either learn how to actually debate with those who disagree with you without ​​​​​​your juvenile name calling or **** off.
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Lost in the shuffle, Alex Morgan played her final game yesterday.

A fine end to a fine career.
 
It’s fun watching the U-20 women’s World Cup - nice to see some of the fresh US talent that will have a chance to make the senior team in about 15 years. 18 tops.
 
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