What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

Status
Not open for further replies.
Slap Shot said:
What's next for USMNT at any level? Any big friendlies and/or tournaments on the horizon?
Click to expand...
Nations League finishes up with two group stage matches in March. Assuming they win those two (Grenada on the road, El Salvador at Home) then there’s the Nations League Finals in June. Gold Cup is then at the end of June and July.
 
U17 qualifying is in February.

U20 World Cup is at the end of May. We don’t know the final makeup of teams as qualifying isn’t done yet but the US should be seeded in Pot 1 as they’ve made the quarterfinals in the last three U20s and are Confederational Champions.
 
Quick note about the U17s, if the US wins the qualifying tournament the US will hold all the active CONCACAF soccer titles at the same time: Gold Cup, Nations League, Champions League, U20s, U17s, Women’s Championship, U20 Women’s, and U17 Women’s.

I specify soccer because the US does not hold the Futsal or Beach titles (though they did make the finals in both).
 
Jimjamesak said:
Quick note about the U17s, if the US wins the qualifying tournament the US will hold all the active CONCACAF soccer titles at the same time: Gold Cup, Nations League, Champions League, U20s, U17s, Women’s Championship, U20 Women’s, and U17 Women’s.

I specify soccer because the US does not hold the Futsal or Beach titles (though they did make the finals in both).
Click to expand...

I assume that can't be bad, but in your opinion do you think it is a significant indicator of the US maturing into a serious power, or just the tallest dwarf in CONCACAF, i.e., "Better than Mexico"?
 
Kepler said:
I assume that can't be bad, but in your opinion do you think it is a significant indicator of the US maturing into a serious power, or just the tallest dwarf in CONCACAF, i.e., "Better than Mexico"?
Click to expand...
Probably a bit of both. Being able to dominate at all levels is no small feat but, it is still CONCACAF.

Finding some consistency at the youth levels would be a good sign of maturity and they’ve been able to do that at the U20 level for the men.

The youth tournament results on the women’s side should have the alarm bells ringing though.
 
On a business note, the referees for the USL, NWSL, and MLS Next Pro (called PRO2) recently won union recognition and have been hashing out a CBA. The NWSL responded by announcing they’d increase their investment to refereeing and will be introducing VAR next season. MLS Next Pro (basically MLS’ minor league with their reserve teams and an increasing number of independent teams) has been quiet but they’re continuing with PRO2.

The USL has decided to go in a different direction.

Because nothing says “we’re a totally stable and professional soccer league” like cheaping out on your refs. Solid move for a league that is trying to position itself as an MLS competitor.
 
Jimjamesak said:
On a business note, the referees for the USL, NWSL, and MLS Next Pro (called PRO2) recently won union recognition and have been hashing out a CBA. The NWSL responded by announcing they’d increase their investment to refereeing and will be introducing VAR next season. MLS Next Pro (basically MLS’ minor league with their reserve teams and an increasing number of independent teams) has been quiet but they’re continuing with PRO2.

The USL has decided to go in a different direction.

Because nothing says “we’re a totally stable and professional soccer league” like cheaping out on your refs. Solid move for a league that is trying to position itself as an MLS competitor.
Click to expand...

Is USL destined to become the relegation league when we go to tiers?
 
I just saw on the ticker that Russia is considering withdrawing from UEFA and joining the Asian region. I suspect they think there will be enough Asian countries who will not vote on banning them.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
I just saw on the ticker that Russia is considering withdrawing from UEFA and joining the Asian region. I suspect they think there will be enough Asian countries who will not vote on banning them.
Click to expand...
China, India, and the Middle Eastern countries don’t care. Japan, South Korea and Australia probably won’t like it but will be outvoted.

I wonder if it could lead to the Asian Confederation splitting along East/West like they should?
 
Jimjamesak said:
On a business note, the referees for the USL, NWSL, and MLS Next Pro (called PRO2) recently won union recognition and have been hashing out a CBA. The NWSL responded by announcing they’d increase their investment to refereeing and will be introducing VAR next season. MLS Next Pro (basically MLS’ minor league with their reserve teams and an increasing number of independent teams) has been quiet but they’re continuing with PRO2.

The USL has decided to go in a different direction.

Because nothing says “we’re a totally stable and professional soccer league” like cheaping out on your refs. Solid move for a league that is trying to position itself as an MLS competitor.
Click to expand...

USL sounds like they will be working with the same tier of officials that you see in Independant League Baseball. Basically I'm guessing NCAA guys working semi-close to home in the NCAA's off-season. I assume that is made up of guys who tend to be older and/or realize that life won't allow them to make the sacrifices needed to progress in the "pro"/FIFA ranks (pun not intended).
 
RaceBoarder said:
USL sounds like they will be working with the same tier of officials that you see in Independant League Baseball. Basically I'm guessing NCAA guys working semi-close to home in the NCAA's off-season. I assume that is made up of guys who tend to be older and/or realize that life won't allow them to make the sacrifices needed to progress in the "pro"/FIFA ranks (pun not intended).
Click to expand...
Nope, NCAA guys won’t touch anything at that level. They’re either already on the path towards MLS or they’re not going to take the pay cut. Most likely it’ll be guys like me, older Regional Referees looking for one last chance or younger referees passed over looking for a desperate chance.

A good example would be the people who referee Rounds One and Two of the US Open Cup. There’ll be a couple of good ones but it’ll be a lot of people out of their element and barely hanging on.
 
Jimjamesak said:
Nope, NCAA guys won’t touch anything at that level. They’re either already on the path towards MLS or they’re not going to take the pay cut. Most likely it’ll be guys like me, older Regional Referees looking for one last chance or younger referees passed over looking for a desperate chance.

A good example would be the people who referee Rounds One and Two of the US Open Cup. There’ll be a couple of good ones but it’ll be a lot of people out of their element and barely hanging on.
Click to expand...

I gotcha...

I didn't realize that NCAA was officials that were still climbing the ladder. I got the impression that NFHS and the NCAA kind of did their own thing outside of FIFA/US Soccer, so I figured that the officials would be outsiders as well, so to speak.
 
RaceBoarder said:
I gotcha...

I didn't realize that NCAA was officials that were still climbing the ladder. I got the impression that NFHS and the NCAA kind of did their own thing outside of FIFA/US Soccer, so I figured that the officials would be outsiders as well, so to speak.
Click to expand...
NCAA officials, well the D1 folks, kind of used to be like that but about 5-6 years ago the major D1 conferences started getting pretty serious about their officials. Most of the Midwest and East Coast conferences run through the Elite College Soccer Referees organization (that’s run by a former MLS referee) that does pretty extensive training and I know the Pac 12 and SEC have pretty similar setups. You’re not getting into any of those games without having some kind of resume through USSF games. Because of that, most tend to do both.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top