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World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

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With a 5-0 win over Jamaica and a surprising 3-0 win for Haiti over Mexico, the USWNT clinches top two in the group and a berth in the World Cup next year.

Haiti and Jamaica play in the final game of group play with a World Cup berth on the line. A win or draw for Haiti and they're in. Loser almost assuredly moves on to the intercontinental qualifier, which is much different than the men's. The women send two teams from each confederation (save Oceania and UEFA which send one). Those 12 teams are then put into three 4-team tournaments where the final three berths will be decided.

Mexico is technically still alive, but they would need to beat the US, and hope the other game doesn't end in a draw, and then play the goal differential game.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
With a 5-0 win over Jamaica and a surprising 3-0 win for Haiti over Mexico, the USWNT clinches top two in the group and a berth in the World Cup next year.
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Just saw the highlights for that match and oof what a disaster for Mexico. They’ve started putting money into their domestic development with Liga MX Femenil and really have made it a point to play those players over the Gringas (American born dual nationals) but oof is it not paying off.

The FMF is just a gongshow at this point. The MNT is stagnant, their WNT is walking disaster, and they just had the U20 failure. They’ve got a bright spot in their female youth teams but everything else is terrible.

Spartanforlife4 said:
Haiti and Jamaica play in the final game of group play with a World Cup berth on the line. A win or draw for Haiti and they're in. Loser almost assuredly moves on to the intercontinental qualifier, which is much different than the men's. The women send two teams from each confederation (save Oceania and UEFA which send one). Those 12 teams are then put into three 4-team tournaments where the final three berths will be decided.
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This is actually the future format for the Intercontinental Playoffs on the Men’s side as well. It’ll be similar for 2026.

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Mexico is technically still alive, but they would need to beat the US, and hope the other game doesn't end in a draw, and then play the goal differential game.
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Mexico at this point needs a miracle. The USWNT rotated the lineup today in anticipation of the Mexico game. The USWNT has to be smelling blood in the water at this point (also they probably want to avoid the Canadians in the semifinals).
 
Jimjamesak said:
Just saw the highlights for that match and oof what a disaster for Mexico. They’ve started putting money into their domestic development with Liga MX Femenil and really have made it a point to play those players over the Gringas (American born dual nationals) but oof is it not paying off.

The FMF is just a gongshow at this point. The MNT is stagnant, their WNT is walking disaster, and they just had the U20 failure. They’ve got a bright spot in their female youth teams but everything else is terrible.

Mexico at this point needs a miracle. The USWNT rotated the lineup today in anticipation of the Mexico game. The USWNT has to be smelling blood in the water at this point (also they probably want to avoid the Canadians in the semifinals).
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I didn’t realize they had been relying on Americans. Makes sense given the training infrastructure in the US with college.

Reminds me of the last Olympic softball tournament. Mexico was literally all Americans so there were essentially two US national teams. Italy had quite a few Americans, and most of the players across all teams, minus Japan, had played college softball in the US.
 
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I didn’t realize they had been relying on Americans. Makes sense given the training infrastructure in the US with college.

Reminds me of the last Olympic softball tournament. Mexico was literally all Americans so there were essentially two US national teams. Italy had quite a few Americans, and most of the players across all teams, minus Japan, had played college softball in the US.
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The US has the best female soccer player development system in the world*, we have hundreds of elite level players going through the NCAA system, why wouldn’t you want to poach players out of it? Well, in Mexico’s case it’s racism and stubborn pride.

A good example is the Philippines who qualified for their first World Cup: Their roster is largely American born Filipinas playing college soccer or recent graduates, the majority of them born and raised in California. And they finished fourth in Asia behind Japan, China, and S. Korea.

*Obscene amounts of money required to participate.
 
Jimjamesak said:
The US has the best female soccer player development system in the world*, we have hundreds of elite level players going through the NCAA system, why wouldn’t you want to poach players out of it? Well, in Mexico’s case it’s racism and stubborn pride.

A good example is the Philippines who qualified for their first World Cup: Their roster is largely American born Filipinas playing college soccer or recent graduates, the majority of them born and raised in California. And they finished fourth in Asia behind Japan, China, and S. Korea.

*Obscene amounts of money required to participate.
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It helps the Philippines that North Korea withdrew.

Between bans, COVID, and an unfortunate draw/format in qualification, it’ll now be at least 13 years in 2024 before they return to one of the major tournaments.
 
Watching the Women’s Euros I’m not really seeing any stand out teams in comparison to the USWNT except for maybe Spain.
 
USWNT escape Mexico 1-0 with a goal in the 89th. Mexico played with 10 for the final 15 minutes.

Meanwhile over in Euros, England destroyed 11th ranked Norway 8-0.
 
Also, annoyed at CBS putting it on Paramount+. It’s summer, they don’t have any baseball or MLS contracts, CBSSN has nothing else to show at 10 on a Monday in July, just show the game on regular cable.

To compound it, they’re showing the semifinals on Thursday on CBSSN before optioning the 3rd/final on Monday to Paramount+.
 
Looking at the standings and Group C currently has third place between Sweden and Netherlands decided by the very last tiebreaker of UEFA coefficient. So if all else is tied, UEFA decided to just let the better team through? That doesn’t seem fair. Prior performance shouldn’t have any bearing on the current tournament. That advantage already occurred during the group drawing when teams were seeded into pots and the better team was already slotted to face worse opponents. If you’re at the point where even sportsmanship ratings are tied, it should just be a drawing of lots.
 
It’ll be US and Canada for the CONCACAF W Championship next Monday. Costa Rica and Jamaica in the third place game.

I like what CONCACAF did to make the third place game relevant. With two bids to the Olympics, rather than give the bids to the finalists, the winner of the W championship earns one bid, while the 2nd place team will host the winner of the third place game in a one game playoff to decide the second bid.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
It’ll be US and Canada for the CONCACAF W Championship next Monday. Costa Rica and Jamaica in the third place game.

I like what CONCACAF did to make the third place game relevant. With two bids to the Olympics, rather than give the bids to the finalists, the winner of the W championship earns one bid, while the 2nd place team will host the winner of the third place game in a one game playoff to decide the second bid.
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That is good. Because Consies suck.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
It’ll be US and Canada for the CONCACAF W Championship next Monday. Costa Rica and Jamaica in the third place game.

I like what CONCACAF did to make the third place game relevant. With two bids to the Olympics, rather than give the bids to the finalists, the winner of the W championship earns one bid, while the 2nd place team will host the winner of the third place game in a one game playoff to decide the second bid.
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It's a lot better than making the semifinals a win and in.
 
Interesting possibility in Group C that probably has little chance of happening.

If Switzerland beats Netherlands 2-1 and Portugal beats Sweden 1-0, all teams end up tied at four points.

All teams would also have a goal differential of 0.

Netherlands, Portugal, and Switzerland would have 5 goals scored. Sweden would only have three so they'd be eliminated at this point. The tiebreak would then restart with Netherlands, Portugal, and Switzerland in games involving those teams.

Netherlands would have lost to Portugal and Switzerland, so they'd be eliminated. Then the tiebreak would come down to Portugal and Switzerland.

Portugal and Switzerland tied each other in game 1, so the tiebreak would go all the way down to step 8 for disciplinary points. If they happen to be tied on that, they'd go to higher UEFA coefficient, which I can't seem to find one for national teams, but if it's the club coefficient so some reason, Portugal would advance ranked 17th vs 18th against Switzerland.
 
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