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World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
I always forget that the 1950 World Cup didn't have a Final.

Of the 5 countries that have hosted the World Cup twice (Mexico, Italy, France, Germany, and Brazil), Mexico and Brazil are the only ones not to have won the World Cup at least once (Mexico, of course, has never even reached the Semifinals, let alone win the World Cup). The US will likely be added to this list following 2026...although I would love to be proven wrong.
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You never really know with a host nation sometimes. France was coming off not qualifying in 1990 and 1994 before winning in 1998 (though they finished fourth and third in 1982 and 1986).

Though most of the “host nation wins” are more examples of corruption and cheating than “great play inspired by home crowds”.

1934: Mussolini basically interfered in everything.
1966: The English organizers are reported to have tipped the scales with referee selections among other smaller controversies. The quarterfinal match against Argentina is good example of this.
1974: Not so much corruption but CONCACAF-style s-thousing by the Germans. They overwatered the field before the final to slow down the Dutch and the PK awarded to Germany is considered highly questionable.
1978: The World Cup that should not have happened. The Argentine military government basically interfered in everything, the biggest being a match between Argentina and Peru largely believed to be fixed by both governments.
 
Jimjamesak said:
You never really know with a host nation sometimes. France was coming off not qualifying in 1990 and 1994 before winning in 1998 (though they finished fourth and third in 1982 and 1986).

Though most of the “host nation wins” are more examples of corruption and cheating than “great play inspired by home crowds”.

1934: Mussolini basically interfered in everything.
1966: The English organizers are reported to have tipped the scales with referee selections among other smaller controversies. The quarterfinal match against Argentina is good example of this.
1974: Not so much corruption but CONCACAF-style s-thousing by the Germans. They overwatered the field before the final to slow down the Dutch and the PK awarded to Germany is considered highly questionable.
1978: The World Cup that should not have happened. The Argentine military government basically interfered in everything, the biggest being a match between Argentina and Peru largely believed to be fixed by both governments.
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I'm fairly familiar with the 1966, 1974, and 1978 "controversies" (my father-in-law is Brazilian and occasionally subscribes to the theory that, at minimum, the '66 and '74 World Cups were rigged and that Brazil should have won 5-straight World Cups...which I believe was also championed by the corrupt Joao Havalange). I am not familiar with the issues with the 1934 World Cup.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
I'm fairly familiar with the 1966, 1974, and 1978 "controversies" (my father-in-law is Brazilian and occasionally subscribes to the theory that, at minimum, the '66 and '74 World Cups were rigged and that Brazil should have won 5-straight World Cups...which I believe was also championed by the corrupt Joao Havalange). I am not familiar with the issues with the 1934 World Cup.
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According to the Wikipedia article (bad source I know):
Throughout the years, several sources have reported that the tournament was marred by bribery and corruption, and could have been influenced by Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, who used the tournament as a propaganda tool for fascism. According to these accusations, Mussolini personally selected referees for the matches where the Italian national team were playing, while the Italian government meddled in FIFA's organisation of events, re-organizing the logistics of the matches to further promote fascism.
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It should be said, Italy did win the Olympics in 1936 and the next World Cup in 1938.
 
I think South Korea's 2002 run shows what "home field" can do. There weren't any shenanigans around that of which I am aware of....
 
Also, fun fact: The 2002 World Cup Quarterfinals featured teams from five different continents, the only one ever.

Europe: England, Germany, Spain, and Turkey
Africa: Senegal
Asia: South Korea
North America: US
South America: Brazil
 
Jimjamesak said:
Also, fun fact: The 2002 World Cup Quarterfinals featured teams from five different continents, the only one ever.

Europe: England, Germany, Spain, and Turkey
Africa: Senegal
Asia: South Korea
North America: US
South America: Brazil
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The US got jobbed against Germany that year - the handball on the line that went uncalled was brutal.
 
unofan said:
The US got jobbed against Germany that year - the handball on the line that went uncalled was brutal.
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I have an uncontrollable moment of anger/disgust whenever I see or hear the name Hugh Dallas or Torsten Frings…

The officiating in that tournament was terrible with a few moments of brilliance (Collina, Brian Hall from the US, the Portuguese referee in the US-Mexico game).
 
The last two friendlies were announced for September:

Japan somewhere in the US on 09/23 and Saudi Arabia in Murcia, Spain on 09/27
 
Oh, Canada…

Canada eliminated from the CONCACAF U-20 Championship in the Round of 16 by Guatemala.

No U-20s, no Olympics (this tournament is also Olympic qualifying) for Canada.
 
US qualifies for the 2023 U20 World Cup by beating Costa Rica 2-0, they will play the winner of Honduras v Panama for a spot in the 2024 Olympics on Friday.
 
Jimjamesak said:
US qualifies for the 2023 U20 World Cup by beating Costa Rica 2-0, they will play the winner of Honduras v Panama for a spot in the 2024 Olympics on Friday.
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Stupid question perhaps - if any of the U20 eligible players get a cap with the big boys does that make them ineligible for the Olympics?
 
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