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World Soccer XVIII: A New Season

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If only the owners had sold to the Man City owner, things could be glorious.

Go get your own Sheikh!!! lol :p

On a more serious note,

City fans plan to honor Malcolm Allison on Sunday. Initial plans are to stand silent with scarves aloft for the first 5 minutes of the match. I think 5 minutes is a bit much, but if it is done, it would be an amazing tribute.

The club will honor him before the match against Arsenal with a Minute's Silence.
 
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West Brom is SOMEHOW level 2-2 with Man U in the 57th minute...

Down 2-0 at half time, an odd goal from a freekick, and a god-awful play by Van Der Sar that led to West Brom's equalizer. He just fumbled a cross, easy catch....


And Portsmouth's up 1-0 on Watford right now. Pompey's been playing very well lately.
 
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I get the feeling that Liverpool will be a copy of the Red Sox in many ways... and I'm not sure Liverpool fans are going to like it per se.

First of all, we all know that Henry is not Abrimovich or the Saudis(?) who own Man City... he's somebody who has made slow and steady gains but will first and foremost be using the club's revenues to further the club and not his own piggy bank.

I think we'll see "moneyball thinking" in the way that they select their managers and other support staff. While soccer is hard to quantify... not for lack of effort.... with the interest in soccer being what it is there is a lot more people trying to analyze it... I have to believe they're like the NFL in that the competition mechanism they'll gladly slaughter sacred cows if it gave them an edge. Baseball has traditionally been lazier and melancholy when dealing with the competitive framework.... such is the nature of the sport when parity is what it is. That being said, i think the same type of thinking will be reflective in the management they choose... its effectiveness will be muted in that others probably already think along the same lines. I also think that fans won't be so thrilled because the effort is more of a growth model than a purchase model. So many fans want "the miracle" to happen where they go out and spend whatever it takes to get certain players... Sox fans are not immune to this... no sports fan is immune to this. Nevertheless, I think you'll see an eye towards internal player development and resource management... its funny to have Henry and the Kraft/Belichek in the same (New England) market because they're similar in that type of strategy. Also, like the Red Sox, there exists a budget, yes its larger than most teams, but it does and will exist.

Also, in terms of stadiums... I've seen a lot of writing on how the "fenway preservation" will be the model for Liverpool. Not knowing Liverpool and their geographic reality I would say that while it may be likely due to the success of the Fenway modernization project, I think its silly to say that such things are inevitable. I have to think that Henry will study that situation, if he hasn't already, and make that decision independent of the goings in Boston. The only issue will be, "if you build a new stadium it will cost money"... but all stadiums do in the end. Keeping the old stadium is often an advantage because you don't have to go deeper into debt. Of course, myself not knowing Liverpool, can he tap into the same kind of insanity that envelopes the Red Sox?

It should be interesting to see what happens... and while I've foresworn "taking on an EPL team" or getting invested into club soccer I can't help but be interested to see what road Liverpool goes down as their situation is a little testy and that Henry isn't the magical billionaire investor who will throw around dollars like it was water.
 
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Wow. West Brom draws with Manchester United.

The Pompey-Watford game is insane! I so wish I could watch it!

Pompey was up 1-0 at half, and then Watford got goals in the 67th and 70th minute to go up 2-1. Pompey then came back and got a goal in the 72nd to pull level, and then a goal in the 80th to go up 3-2! In stoppage time right now, trying to hang on...
 
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OK United. If you continue to play like this, you won't even make the Europa League. I guess the Glazer's ineptitude is finally infecting the coaching staff.
 
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Poor decision by the ref to allow Spurs' winner today.
 
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He wants out. SAF has been dropping him while healthy and then lying to the media about it. Rooney is done.

So, what's our bet for a location?

In England, Man City would surely love him, but that article detailed their wage issues vis a vis a UEFA ban. Liverpool? Would John Henry want to make a big splash? Would Rooney fit in? Chelsea could afford him but doesn't need him. Arsenal? How about Everton bringing back their former youth player?

The big two in Spain are sure to be interested, but how would Rooney fit in in Spain?
 
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So, what's our bet for a location?

In England, Man City would surely love him, but that article detailed their wage issues vis a vis a UEFA ban. Liverpool? Would John Henry want to make a big splash? Would Rooney fit in? Chelsea could afford him but doesn't need him. Arsenal? How about Everton bringing back their former youth player?

The big two in Spain are sure to be interested, but how would Rooney fit in in Spain?

I'm sure there are a bunch of NA teams that would love to add another designated player. ;)
 
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So, what's our bet for a location?

In England, Man City would surely love him, but that article detailed their wage issues vis a vis a UEFA ban. Liverpool? Would John Henry want to make a big splash? Would Rooney fit in? Chelsea could afford him but doesn't need him. Arsenal? How about Everton bringing back their former youth player?

The big two in Spain are sure to be interested, but how would Rooney fit in in Spain?

Whoa. I wouldn't be too sure about that. I'd say there's a decent portion of supporters who would never root for him, just cause of his United affiliation.
I'm not in that camp, but I still wouldn't want him. Not on this form, and City have enough distractions as it is. If we really need a striker, we can find an equally competent one- without the baggage.
 
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The big two in Spain are sure to be interested, but how would Rooney fit in in Spain?
I don't know that I can see Barcelona going for him. Villa-Rooney-Messi is a fearsome front three, but you'd be severely blocking the progress of guys like Pedro and Bojan and Jeffren from the youth system. That isn't generally their style, although I suppose they did that with Villa, but with Ibrahimovic outgoing at the same time. I guess you never know though.
 
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So, what's our bet for a location?

In England, Man City would surely love him, but that article detailed their wage issues vis a vis a UEFA ban. Liverpool? Would John Henry want to make a big splash? Would Rooney fit in? Chelsea could afford him but doesn't need him. Arsenal? How about Everton bringing back their former youth player?

The big two in Spain are sure to be interested, but how would Rooney fit in in Spain?

For some reason, English players don't do well in Spain. (Beckham did fine, but he wasn't all world.) Rooney could do what all English do in Spain and enjoy the nightlife a tad too much. If Rooney is the locker room cancer, than United has to get rid of him. Maybe they can buy some backline players with the money they get from the tranfer.
 
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I'm sure there are a bunch of NA teams that would love to add another designated player. ;)

Yeah, but where among the MLS that would be a good fit for him? I would think he would want to go to at least a major market. Who does Toronto have as their DP?
 
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Yeah, but where among the MLS that would be a good fit for him? I would think he would want to go to at least a major market. Who does Toronto have as their DP?
JPA would appear to be headed elsewhere next season and the Red Bulls have shown that they're willing to pay the luxury tax to sign a third DP. I'm just saying. :D
 
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