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World Soccer XVI: The Sadness

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Seemed to me that the Uruguayan goalie was doing a trick I learned when I was a goalkeeper. Shift a little to one side, and then dive back the other way. Unless the shooter puts it on the bar you have a decent shot of stopping it.
 
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I'm not really happy that Uruguay cheated and still won. I know the rules and all, but that's just not right. The game winning goal was undeniably going in the net with absolutely no time left. The penalty kick is designed to replicate a lost scoring opportunity, but this wasn't a possible goal. It was a real actual game-winning goal that should have counted. What Suarez did was ten times worse than what Henry did to Ireland.

At least there is a little karma. Uruguay will certainly miss Suarez in the next round. It's not like they lost a replaceable defender or something. He is a cog in their machine. I hope he sits the final as well. If that penalty doesn't come with at least a five match FIFA ban, there is no justice.

I would actually have no problem with a life-time FIFA tournament ban for this. Really.
 
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JohnN said:
I'm not really happy that Uruguay cheated and still won. I know the rules and all, but that's just not right. The game winning goal was undeniably going in the net with absolutely no time left. The penalty kick is designed to replicate a lost scoring opportunity, but this wasn't a possible goal. It was a real actual game-winning goal that should have counted. What Suarez did was ten times worse than what Henry did to Ireland.

At least there is a little karma. Uruguay will certainly miss Suarez in the next round. It's not like they lost a replaceable defender or something. He is a cog in their machine. I hope he sits the final as well. If that penalty doesn't come with at least a five match FIFA ban, there is no justice.

I would actually have no problem with a life-time FIFA tournament ban for this. Really.
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If Ghana just makes the **** PK, then no one cares.

I say its karma coming home to roost. If only every team that dived that egregiously got punished like that.
 
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Finally saw the replay. I've got no problem with what happened. The guy got the automatic red card. Ghana missed the PK. I stand by what I said before.
 
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unofan said:
If Ghana just makes the **** PK, then no one cares.
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Pretty much yeah. All he had to do there was put it under the crossbar, and Ghana is partying like its 1999. They had their shot, and well, it went Scott Norwood on them.
 
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They had their shot and it was going in.

This is not a situation where a penalty kick is a proper remedy.

They scored, except the other team blatantly and cynically cheated.

I know it's just Ghana, so it doesn't really matter, but this was the worst professional foul I have seen in my entire life.


I find it odd that many of you get all bent out of shape about a little diving and yet the most blatant cheating of the World Cup is no big thing.
 
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They had their shot and it was going in.

This is not a situation where a penalty kick is a proper remedy.

They scored, except the other team blatantly and cynically cheated.

I know it's just Ghana, so it doesn't really matter, but this was the worst professional foul I have seen in my entire life.
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Didn't Australia's Kewell do the same thing but Ghana scored on the PK?
 
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Kewell's arm was at his side and he leaned into the ball to stop it.

Suarez literally lifted both hands in the air and swung at the ball to knock it out of the air.

Both were bad, but Suarez' was clearly more blatant and cynical.
 
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A rule question/clarification, if Uruguay and Ghana had gone to the eleventh round in a PK shootout, Uruguay simply wouldn't have a shooter and it would count basically as a miss?

And I wouldn't mind seeing Suarez banned for the rest of the Cup, but like everyone else has mentioned, he merely used a tactic that appears frequently in every sport at the end of a game. I still remember wishing the Cornell goalie had leveled the Syracuse lacrosse player from behind (with 7 seconds remaining) and taken the penalty in the NCAA final in 2009 rather than allow him to shoot.

edit: I actually kind of like the goal tending rule. If a player's arm clearly impedes the ball and is the last thing between it and the goal line, a goal is given. I'd probably lower the offender's punishment to yellow.
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
This was way more blatant and dirty than Kewell's. But the end result was the same, saved a clear goal.
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Yes I know Suarez was way more blatant, I've seen both highlights.

Remember when college football tried to make games shorter by starting the game clock at the moment of impact on kickoffs instead of after the receiving team touched the ball? I remember the Wisconsin Badgers very late in a game after taking the lead vs Penn State. They intentionally were 10 yards down the field when they kicked off because it would waste clock and the other team would have to choose whether to give up the time on the clock or let the badgers try again...was that blatant...yes, was it dirty? no I dont think so because it was within the rules.
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
So would Ghana have all 11 players go before they turnover but Uruguay would have had 10? interesting I was wondering about that too
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Edit: Sorry, Ghana would have picked 10, probably keeping their goalie out of the shoot-out. So an even number of takers.
 
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Ghana converted two of five PKs. Stew on that for a while.

That game was touted as the least compelling Quarter and it will likely end up the most memorable of the entire WC.
 
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