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World Soccer XVI: The Sadness

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To be fair to the referee, no TV camera really seemed to catch a good view of it. Like the announcers said all match, the refs positioning was great all game, so if he thought that merited a red, I'm inclined to believe he saw something to warrant it.

Also, rough stat delivered by Martin Tyler at the end there. 7/8 of the group winners move on, the only one going home is the US.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
This is the World Cup and not the World Diving Championships. :D There have been some misses, but I'd rather the whistle be kept in the pocket than calling a foul every three seconds.
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Agree.

What's the deal with the lone goal? Was it offsides?
 
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J.D. said:
Agree.

What's the deal with the lone goal? Was it offsides?
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It's kind of confusing, on the initial pass he was well onside, then it looked like there was a backheel on the way through. If the backheel made contact, he was offside.
 
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GreatLakerMohawk said:
Didn't look like it was. A lone defender appeared to keep him onside.
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Sorry for the grainy picture quality but thats from the video I watched on my phone...he looks off to me. Thoughts?
 
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The ball had already been released when you snapped the picture. You can see the ball.

Got a better picture for me.
 
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Just re-watched the goal. He was a half-body offside. But the linesman would have had to have seen that through 4 Portugal players. And since he scored on the rebound, that amount of distance doesn't excuse the team not getting back to defend.
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
From 30 yards away?
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Like I said, all the replays we've seen so far seem to be with Capdevilla already flailing backwards. So, there's two possibilities: 1.) That's really all that happened, and the Spaniard dove or 2.) Something happened that the cameras didn't catch but the referee did.

Since the referee had a very good game up to that point, I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
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Tough break for Portugal, but offsides in soccer is one of the toughest calls in all of sports IMO. You ask a lot of one person to see when a ball is kicked and at the same time where a player was, etc.

It actually amazes me how often these guys get it right.

More officiating news:

JOHANNESBURG -- Uruguay's Jorge Larrionda and Italy's Roberto Rosetti, whose blunders have prompted FIFA to rethink using video technology, have been left off the list of referees for the rest of the World Cup.

Larrionda failed to see an England shot cross the line in a 4-1 loss to Germany, and Rosetti wrongly awarded a goal to Argentina's Carlos Tevez against Mexico when he was offside.

Without giving reasons, FIFA announced the cut Tuesday.

Two more left out were Koman Coulibaly of Mali, who disallowed a third United States goal in a 2-2 draw with Slovenia, and French ref Stephane Lannoy, who harshly sent off Brazil's Kaka for a second yellow after Ivory Coast's Kader Keita ran into him while going for the ball.

LOL at FIFA blaming the refs in the England game for not seeing that the ball was over the line. That was nearly impossible to rule a goal live.

Also, what's this about FIFA warning the French government to stay out of soccer issues? Is FIFA like the UN or something? :confused:
 
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J.D. said:
Also, what's this about FIFA warning the French government to stay out of soccer issues? Is FIFA like the UN or something? :confused:
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FIFA has been on that kick for awhile... they don't want gov't interference with football. I can see why one would want that... but it has to be tempered. What you don't want is football associations having to deal with people like Uday Hussein.

They've made it a point to threaten nations that get involved with their football associations... I believe Chile or Peru got threatened over gov't issues with the domestic leagues... i believe they've suspended Iraq and Greece at different points in time.

edit: I think they'd do the same to the US if Congress decided to investigate US Soccer.
 
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Patman said:
FIFA has been on that kick for awhile... they don't want gov't interference with football.
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Yeah, this part of FIFA is actually probably for the best -- it's supposed to, say, prevent bad characters from playing domestic political games and using their athletes as pawns. Dunno how effective it is, but it is well-intentioned.
 
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Patman said:
FIFA has been on that kick for awhile... they don't want gov't interference with football. I can see why one would want that... but it has to be tempered. What you don't want is football associations having to deal with people like Uday Hussein.

They've made it a point to threaten nations that get involved with their football associations... I believe Chile or Peru got threatened over gov't issues with the domestic leagues... i believe they've suspended Iraq and Greece at different points in time.

edit: I think they'd do the same to the US if Congress decided to investigate US Soccer.
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I think El Salvador actually just got suspended recently for something similar.
 
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J.D. said:
JOHANNESBURG -- Uruguay's Jorge Larrionda and Italy's Roberto Rosetti, whose blunders have prompted FIFA to rethink using video technology, have been left off the list of referees for the rest of the World Cup.

Larrionda failed to see an England shot cross the line in a 4-1 loss to Germany, and Rosetti wrongly awarded a goal to Argentina's Carlos Tevez against Mexico when he was offside.
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Truth is, Larrionda wouldn't have still been in the mix anyway since Uruguay reached the quarter-finals, and it's not really Rosetti's job to make offside calls, that falls to the ARs. Rosetti's usually one of the best in the biz, sucks to see that he is gone. On the other hand, Larrionda has been skating on crappy calls for years.
 
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