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World Soccer XV: Diver Down
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Terrierbyassociation
Fight Cancer, Wherever You Find It
Re: World Soccer XV: Diver Down
The handball rule is the most poorly applied rule in sports.
Every ref has a different opinion. Unintentional Handball by offensive player? Whistle immediately. No whistle. Whistle if he puts it into the net.
Unintentional handball by defensive player? Whistle Immediately. Don't whistle. Is his arm away from his body? Is it right next to his body? Is it denying a goal? Is it Intentional? Unintentional?
The punishments are also enforced haphazardly.
The handball rule is the most poorly applied rule in sports.
Every ref has a different opinion. Unintentional Handball by offensive player? Whistle immediately. No whistle. Whistle if he puts it into the net.
Unintentional handball by defensive player? Whistle Immediately. Don't whistle. Is his arm away from his body? Is it right next to his body? Is it denying a goal? Is it Intentional? Unintentional?
The punishments are also enforced haphazardly.
JF_Gophers
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Re: World Soccer XV: Diver Down
So uh yeah, I had group A wrong.
But since I had group B completely right my 2nd round picks are still in tact.
For Wednesday we have...
So uh yeah, I had group A wrong.
But since I had group B completely right my 2nd round picks are still in tact.For Wednesday we have...
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Re: World Soccer XV: Diver Down
No. Do you really want to see St. Kitts play? Nobody wants to see that.
No. Do you really want to see St. Kitts play? Nobody wants to see that.
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Priceless
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Re: World Soccer XV: Diver Down
Argentina scored a goal on a possible handball? I'm shocked.
Argentina scored a goal on a possible handball? I'm shocked.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
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Great piece on how racism is still around in Europe. It had Oneywu, Edu and Beasley. I can't believe some of the crap they deal with. Gumbel also talked to Henry. I may call Thierry a cheat, but NO ONE should have to deal with that crap. NO ONE.
Great piece on how racism is still around in Europe. It had Oneywu, Edu and Beasley. I can't believe some of the crap they deal with. Gumbel also talked to Henry. I may call Thierry a cheat, but NO ONE should have to deal with that crap. NO ONE.
Terrierbyassociation
Fight Cancer, Wherever You Find It
Re: World Soccer XV: Diver Down
My friend went to games in Spain where supporters had Nazi flags and they were constantly doing monkey noises.
Its awful in Europe.
My friend went to games in Spain where supporters had Nazi flags and they were constantly doing monkey noises.
Its awful in Europe.
joegrav
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Re: World Soccer XV: Diver Down
The World Cup format is perfect. They should never change it, unless enough teams get really good that they can go to 64 teams and keep the same general format.
But even now I think there are already some teams in that we don't really need to watch three times. (North Korea, Honduras... France)
Keep it as it is.
The World Cup format is perfect. They should never change it, unless enough teams get really good that they can go to 64 teams and keep the same general format.
But even now I think there are already some teams in that we don't really need to watch three times. (North Korea, Honduras... France
)Keep it as it is.
Un_Poco_Lento
Professional Slacker
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I think they should add sudden death to the group phases, and for a touch of added fun make any OT winners count double for goal difference. What could possibly go wrong with that plan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Caribbean_Cup_1994#Anomaly
(one of my co-workers just passed this along to me)
The World Cup format is perfect. They should never change it, unless enough teams get really good that they can go to 64 teams and keep the same general format.
But even now I think there are already some teams in that we don't really need to watch three times. (North Korea, Honduras... France
Keep it as it is.
I think they should add sudden death to the group phases, and for a touch of added fun make any OT winners count double for goal difference. What could possibly go wrong with that plan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Caribbean_Cup_1994#Anomaly
(one of my co-workers just passed this along to me)
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Easy, Coastal Carolina or College of Charleston.
I'm mostly kidding with the play-in theme.
It stands to reason that somebody will decide there is more money to be made if the field expands. I don't know what the method will be and doubt we'd all like it. Purists will say it should never change but those same things have been said for other sports and they all followed the money.
I think most of us would agree that not all of the qualifying regions are equal and the last team eliminated in certain regions is probably better than at least half the teams in the tournament. I don't know the highest FIFA rated team ever to not make the WC but there would be money to be made by having them get in.
Especially with an event that is every 4 years, getting the 1-2 deserving teams in there somehow doesn't really have a downside.
Olympics..no money to be made from having the #1 pole vaulter get in even if they failed to qualify. WC...money to be made.
Easy, Coastal Carolina or College of Charleston.
I'm mostly kidding with the play-in theme.
It stands to reason that somebody will decide there is more money to be made if the field expands. I don't know what the method will be and doubt we'd all like it. Purists will say it should never change but those same things have been said for other sports and they all followed the money.
I think most of us would agree that not all of the qualifying regions are equal and the last team eliminated in certain regions is probably better than at least half the teams in the tournament. I don't know the highest FIFA rated team ever to not make the WC but there would be money to be made by having them get in.
Especially with an event that is every 4 years, getting the 1-2 deserving teams in there somehow doesn't really have a downside.
Olympics..no money to be made from having the #1 pole vaulter get in even if they failed to qualify. WC...money to be made.
WeWantMore
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Re: World Soccer XV: Diver Down
England team for Algeria:
James; Johnson, Terry, Upson, Acole; Barry; Milner, Lamp, Gerrard; Roo, Defoe
Joe Cole must have boinked Fabio's daughter.
England team for Algeria:
James; Johnson, Terry, Upson, Acole; Barry; Milner, Lamp, Gerrard; Roo, Defoe
Joe Cole must have boinked Fabio's daughter.
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This post regarded Gourcuff's red against South Africa.
First, yes I think it was deserved, but more importantly for the point I want to make is that this play was very similar to Clint Dempsey's elbow in the first ten seconds of the Slovenia game. The play I said we were lucky our friend from Mali didn't red card Dempsey and ruin our World Cup. I made the point last weekend that a lot of World Cup referees would have given Dempsey's elbow a red.
So, was the red card deserved? I notice a silence on the boards.
Or are people happy because it went against France?
I thought red was harsh until I saw the replay, and it looked to me that the French player ran up to the RSA player and, while the elbow may not have been intentional, it wasn't like he made any effort to avoid it.
This post regarded Gourcuff's red against South Africa.
First, yes I think it was deserved, but more importantly for the point I want to make is that this play was very similar to Clint Dempsey's elbow in the first ten seconds of the Slovenia game. The play I said we were lucky our friend from Mali didn't red card Dempsey and ruin our World Cup. I made the point last weekend that a lot of World Cup referees would have given Dempsey's elbow a red.
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Have to say I didn't see the lineup for the second game (wasn't that Algeria?) but did Milner start? He had such a bad start to the US game and the early sub so I thought he might be riding the pine for the rest of the group round.
I like Milner but he seemed a step short and made up for it with two brutal tackles and one yellow.
Have to say I didn't see the lineup for the second game (wasn't that Algeria?) but did Milner start? He had such a bad start to the US game and the early sub so I thought he might be riding the pine for the rest of the group round.
I like Milner but he seemed a step short and made up for it with two brutal tackles and one yellow.
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The French media don't take this too seriously.
The French media don't take this too seriously.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: World Soccer XV: Diver Down
I've been meaning to respond to you on this issue for awhile and haven't. Sorry.
I think yellow cards and red cards need to be given for yellow and red card offenses. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that the state of the game really gets out of whack when cards aren't given. The virtual ban on red cards in the very early days of MLS is a good example. It made the league fairly violent and drove away skilled players. When the red cards came back, the skill came back.
I think your real issue, and I would agree with you on this, is that none of us want to see players miss World Cup games for card accumulation. Especially cards that seem questionable. The solution to this, IMO, is not fewer cards, but a higher threshold for accumulation. I don't like two yellows=missed game because anyone could get two yellows in silly situations over the course of three or four games. I'd like to see the number raised to three yellows=missed game. Three yellows over three or four games is a pattern that deserves to be punished. I do like the fine tuning FIFA did with this for the elimination round. They've made it very difficult for a player to miss the final game for cards from the semi-final.
I've been meaning to respond to you on this issue for awhile and haven't. Sorry.
I think yellow cards and red cards need to be given for yellow and red card offenses. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that the state of the game really gets out of whack when cards aren't given. The virtual ban on red cards in the very early days of MLS is a good example. It made the league fairly violent and drove away skilled players. When the red cards came back, the skill came back.
I think your real issue, and I would agree with you on this, is that none of us want to see players miss World Cup games for card accumulation. Especially cards that seem questionable. The solution to this, IMO, is not fewer cards, but a higher threshold for accumulation. I don't like two yellows=missed game because anyone could get two yellows in silly situations over the course of three or four games. I'd like to see the number raised to three yellows=missed game. Three yellows over three or four games is a pattern that deserves to be punished. I do like the fine tuning FIFA did with this for the elimination round. They've made it very difficult for a player to miss the final game for cards from the semi-final.
GreatLakerMohawk
Mushroom Cloud-Laying Mofo
Re: World Soccer XV: Diver Down
You mean the Dance of Joy from Perfect Strangers?
It took England two games to figure out Heskey sucks, perhaps they deserve to miss out because Capello is a dope.
You mean the Dance of Joy from Perfect Strangers?
It took England two games to figure out Heskey sucks, perhaps they deserve to miss out because Capello is a dope.
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My thoughts on the size of the tournament.
I know this may sound crazy, but from a fans perspective, I think the World Cup is too big. There are too many games squeezed into too few days. I'd be happy with a 16 team tournament so we could go back to one or two games a day and some real quality games.
As a compromise, I think it would be fun to pair up all the teams and have them all play a two match series over the first four or five days of the tournament. The sixteen winners would enter the group stage. That first week would be crazy, but it would settle down pretty quick.
My thoughts on the size of the tournament.
I know this may sound crazy, but from a fans perspective, I think the World Cup is too big. There are too many games squeezed into too few days. I'd be happy with a 16 team tournament so we could go back to one or two games a day and some real quality games.
As a compromise, I think it would be fun to pair up all the teams and have them all play a two match series over the first four or five days of the tournament. The sixteen winners would enter the group stage. That first week would be crazy, but it would settle down pretty quick.
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